How would you change Cricket Australia and the Australian team?

[rose jam]

I think most still miss the point, there is no combination of 11 cricketers in the country that would have done any better. But..........it is better to be thrashed with youth than to be thrashed with an old team.
Selectors messed up in 2005 when they should have seen the signs to start regenrating the side. It was well said at the time that the team was going to be in trouble when McGrath, Gilchrist and Warne left, but the selectors and the state selectors arrogantly thought Australia was just going to regenerate superstars.

Victorian cricket is the worst example of what's happening, they play only for trophy's playing 36 year olds like Hodge who will never offer anything to Australian cricket. Time to start using the state system as breeding ground for test cricketers not crap trophies. There should be a policy of 50% of the state teams comprised of under 25's.

 

[mattymac]

Who with?

copeland, hazelwood, pattinson, starc, george makes a fair selection. harris was the only one this summer worth holding onto but he will likely always have injury issues

we can't stick with proven losers in the inane hope that they are somehow gonna get better

johnson will never be consistent due to his action. siddle has had a long run of favour and never found consistency. hilfenhaus was kind of consistent, now he's lost it and his penetration with it.

not only is our attack hopeless but the world knows its hopeless. so much of cricket is mental and not only do they not fear us but they have worked us out and we don't even have the benefit of the unknown. we are feeble and they know we are feeble.

it was interesting listening to richie benaud and mark taylor yesterday. spot on the money. our attack is leaderless because we have three ordinary first change bowlers. johnson is an occasional match winner but he can not lead an attack because he is not consistent. richie reckons you could keep siddle if he worked on his batting and turned himself into a genuine allrounder. lol. sounds f'd up but its true. he doesn't offer enough consistently with the ball to warrant his inclusion. and hilfenhaus is the most consistent of the three but impotent. he could be an england call up like terry alderman used to be. nothing more

there is no quick fix but we know hilditch's hacks are fail. start with 3 blokes who can hit a square metre on the pitch consistently and build from there. put them under a new coach and new captain and start from scatch

 

[skipper kelly]

Put Waqar and Wasim on the next plane to Australia.

 

[ROSEMVP]

Give More vics a run (They are the best cricket side in domestic)
Give White Captaincy
Throw In Okeefe or Boyce in as our number 1 spinner and leave them for atleast 10 games
Drop Haddin (Sorry to old) Clarke Hughes M.Hussey Hilfenhaus
Bring in Wade White Lynn Cosgrove Copeland or Mckay
Make Shippy coach
Make lehman chairman of selectors with hayden and Langer and Fleming
Get David Saker as bowling coach
Sack Hildritch Cooley COX Boon Nielsen
Start Shield in august (can play at regional grounds for first 2 months)

 

[Jascave]

Here's who I think should be in charge of Cricket Australia:

Chairman: John Howard
CEO: Wayne Jackson
Coach: Rodney Marsh
NSP Chairman: Greg Chappell
NSP members: Steve Waugh, Mark Taylor, Bob Simpson, Damien Fleming

Give these guys 5 years in which: 1) to make much-needed changes to the Australian side 2) restore faith with the Australian cricket public (which has been sorely tested after losing to England (twice), South Africa at home, a less than impressive series win against the West Indies and Pakistan last summer) 3) Rebuild the Sheffield Shield as the no.1 domestic comp in the cricket world 4) build a side worthy of challenging England for the 2013 Ashes 5) Regain the Ashes 6) Make Australia no.1 in the ICC Test ranking again.

 

[strauchanie59]

Allan Border, John Howard or Steve Waugh as CEO. If Howard gets it, put those 2 as selectors. New Bowling Coach, have 2, 1 for pace and 1 for spin. McGrath as one and Warney as other. Keep Langer as batting coach.

Then team should like this:

Cosgrove
Katich
Kawajha
Hodge (Come out of retirement) (C)
M.Hussey
Watson
Paine (VC)
Johnson
O'Keefe
J.Pattinson
Hilfenhaus

12th Man; Smith

Hughes is a dud, Cosgrove is in outstanding form.
Smith needs more time to develop, too many rash shots. It isnt T20!
Paine as VC as he has great leadership skills and better than Hackin behind the stumps.
Give Hilfy and Johnson another chance. If they fail, dropped. Pattinson, great player, great prospect. Hard to pick between him, Copeland and Starc.
O'Keefe, good left armers and good batsmen.

 

[Fart Cummings]

1. things first Selectors must be sacked and put in one of those wooden things that has holes for ya head and arms so we can throw tomatoes at them.

2.Second never ever ever let Ben Hilfenhaus open the bowling again ever.

3.Third drop Hughes and bring him back only when he is averaging above 50 for his last 10 matches don't worry hes only 22.

4.drop Clarke and move watson down the order.

5.bring ponting back but down the order...one last chance to fine form.

6.Stick with Beer and get warnie to be his personal coach.

7 reward players for form in FC cricket

8 stop playing so many f**king ODI games they a boring as hell and mean nothing.

 

[Jimthegreat]

copeland, hazelwood, pattinson, starc, george makes a fair selection. harris was the only one this summer worth holding onto but he will likely always have injury issues

we can't stick with proven losers in the inane hope that they are somehow gonna get better

johnson will never be consistent due to his action. siddle has had a long run of favour and never found consistency. hilfenhaus was kind of consistent, now he's lost it and his penetration with it.

not only is our attack hopeless but the world knows its hopeless. so much of cricket is mental and not only do they not fear us but they have worked us out and we don't even have the benefit of the unknown. we are feeble and they know we are feeble.

it was interesting listening to richie benaud and mark taylor yesterday. spot on the money. our attack is leaderless because we have three ordinary first change bowlers. johnson is an occasional match winner but he can not lead an attack because he is not consistent. richie reckons you could keep siddle if he worked on his batting and turned himself into a genuine allrounder. lol. sounds f'd up but its true. he doesn't offer enough consistently with the ball to warrant his inclusion. and hilfenhaus is the most consistent of the three but impotent. he could be an england call up like terry alderman used to be. nothing more

there is no quick fix but we know hilditch's hacks are fail. start with 3 blokes who can hit a square metre on the pitch consistently and build from there. put them under a new coach and new captain and start from scatch

Don't mind having Copeland and Starc with Harris to provide the experience for the group. O'Keefe surely is the obvious spinner. Starc really looks likes he could developed in to similar version of Bruce Reid. Copeland's line and length is extremely consistent. Have Pattinson and Heazelwood around in the wings too as they has huge potential.

Just can't beileve we kept the same sh1t bowlers time and again. 1/517, 5/620, 513, 644, 3 innings defeats. When does the penny drop with these idiots. They play well for one game, keep their place and then are terrible for the next so many Tests. We win one occasionally when they're all on song but get pumped in Series. Bowlers win matches, batsmen set them up. If you have a great bowling line-up you feel you're a chance to defend most totals (not 98). Batsman set it up but it doesn't help much you if you can't take 20 wickets. Get the bowling right first.

 

[mattymac]

New Bowling Coach, have 2, 1 for pace and 1 for spin. McGrath as one and Warney as other.

mcgrath doesn't want to do it. he's happy giving "occasional advice" as a paid consultant. i suspect warney also will have too much on his plate already to offer any more than occasional consultancy

stuey clark would make an excellent bowling coach imo. smart bloke and understands the technical side of bowling second to none

 

[strauchanie59]

mcgrath doesn't want to do it. he's happy giving "occasional advice" as a paid consultant. i suspect warney also will have too much on his plate already to offer any more than occasional consultancy

stuey clark would make an excellent bowling coach imo. smart bloke and understands the technical side of bowling second to none

but he is still playing for NSW. Could Kasper be brought in?

 

[The Passenger]

7) Take some money out of the player contracts, and lower the amount given out. This may result in more competition with the team to try to retain their spots. May lead to selfish play, but in my view cricket is a fairly selfish game even though you play within a team.

this will definitely happen. the bargaining agreement with the Australian Cricketers Association and Cricket Australia is for the players to get something like 25% of revenue generated from cricket Australia events.

if they keep playing like they are now, that revenue stream will definitely go down.

 

[The_Reaper]

that would be wrong IMO. six is just right for this country (and it works perfectly cause that's how many states there are). the only provision i would like to see is the ability for cricket australia to decide that a second state team can play when one state has an abundance of players outside of their best XI who could play state cricket, for instance NSW at the moment or Victoria about 6 to 7 years ago, and Queensland in the mid to late 90's when they had Bichel, Kasprowicz, Tazelaar, Dale, Rowell, Dawes, Rackemann, McDermott, Muller on their fast bowling roster (some of those careers didn't overlap).

i wouldn't want this invoked every year, but very sparingly and when it is clear a second XI could compete with the opposition teams.

but if we have too many teams in the shield it will really dilute the standard and intensity of the games.

i read on another post that shield cricket should be extended to five days to allow more play instead of trying to get a result for points. i agree with this for sure.

The advantage of 10 teams will be seen in the long term.
It will allow more players to make a career out of cricket which will encourage more youngsters to pick cricket as a career.

 

[ROSEMVP]

10 could be good however your would need to give act 1 team and new zealand 3

 

[J Selwood14]

10 could be good however your would need to give act 1 team and new zealand 3

split NSW into 2 teams, maybe Vic as well
give ACT a team
even think about NZ joining in some way, could strengthen their cricket team in ways

 

[Bounty]

I think you all miss the connection:

Redbacks = Australia, why? well look at the set up and what position they are both in took 15 years for SA to achieve nothing, Australia going same way

Neilson..SA
Hilditch..SA
Chapple..SA
Cox ..SA

all SA thats just off the top of my head .Are there more within the hallowed halls of CA I believe there could be .

these ppl pick Nice Pretty cricketers like Ferguson,Hughes,Voges,and any NSW player that looks nearly descent (for promo's)not workers and resilient types like Rogers,Hodge,Klinger,Cosgrove, proven over time

Answer get rid of SA influences

 

[The_Reaper]

10 could be good however your would need to give act 1 team and new zealand 3

Next year in the big bash there are already plans for two Victorian teams and two New South Wales teams.

I'd introduce an ACT team, a Vic Country team, a second Sydney team and a Newcastle team.

Alternatively have 8 teams with a Vic Country and a NSW Country team.

 

[dumb]

have them practice the fundamentals like fielding, catching, until their fingers are gooey bloody stumps. fielding you exert a little more personal control over so their are less excuses. but make it enjoyable at the same time... it would be loads of fun to play an internal series of 6 a side. obviously a glorified net session, but would sure beat the monotony of the nets.

encourage off-season first class, maybe even with incentives. england is the obvious one, maybe other countries as well. ian harvey played in SA if i remember.

go home and hit a golf ball against a tank with a stump

 

[ROSEMVP]

state teams are fine. no need to change them just add act and maybe some kiwis. the domestic comp is fine as it is anyway. the reason spinners dont get a go are the pitches are flat.

 

[The_Reaper]

state teams are fine. no need to change them just add act and maybe some kiwis. the domestic comp is fine as it is anyway. the reason spinners dont get a go are the pitches are flat.

If you look at it population and participation wise, it makes no sense for NSW or Victoria to have the same number of teams as Tasmania.

If the shield competition is just for development, then it makes sense to have teams where the population is.

That's why in the football U/18 championship Victoria have two teams.

 

[ROSEMVP]

the competion is working and has been for years why change it. their are tons of young players getting a game. plus their is the future league.

 

[The_Reaper]

the competion is working and has been for years why change it. their are tons of young players getting a game. plus their is the future league.

Staying stagnant is never a choice.

Expanding the shield will lead, 10+ years down the track to an increased player pool, the chance for a proper fully proffesional domestic competition and provide an easier pathway for talented youngsters to play cricket, thereby encouraging them to pick cricket ahead of other sports.

 

[ROSEMVP]

if you look at the problem with the test team its the top order and spin. if the selectors picked the right teams and not pick teams on marketability aka clarke we wouldn't be talking about any of these. the reason our players are good when the start there international career is due to the high standard of shield cricket. if you add new teams the standard will drop dramatically.

 

[The_Reaper]

if you look at the problem with the test team its the top order and spin. if the selectors picked the right teams and not pick teams on marketability aka clarke we wouldn't be talking about any of these. the reason our players are good when the start there international career is due to the high standard of shield cricket. if you add new teams the standard will drop dramatically.

It is a trade off and in the short term will have some issues.
However down the track it will pay off.

 

[The Passenger]

for me the only positive of 10 shield teams is the prospect of encouraging kids to choose cricket over other sports... it is a bit tough when there are only about 120 professional cricketers compared 600+ in the AFL (plus many more who make a very tidy packet out of various state and bush leagues which doesn't happen at all in cricket).

you could have additional big bash teams (which they are doing - possibly as many as 12) which will give some exposure to plenty of cricketers, and also get them the possibility that they may be signed by an IPL team which is where the easy $$$$ is for them.

 

[The_Reaper]

for me the only positive of 10 shield teams is the prospect of encouraging kids to choose cricket over other sports... it is a bit tough when there are only about 120 professional cricketers compared 600+ in the AFL (plus many more who make a very tidy packet out of various state and bush leagues which doesn't happen at all in cricket).

Which is the main reasoning I'm advocating for it.

Though I admit that 10 teams may be too big a jump, especially in the near future.

More realisticaly, especially given the plans to have two NSW and two VIC teams in the big bash next year, is to have two shield teams from those states.