I Don't Want Judd...

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Marc Shmurf 3

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If one of the 3 happen

1. We give W.C Fev & pick 3
2. We give W.C Kennedy & pick 3
3. We give W.C picks 1 & 3 (I know that this is the most unlikely of them all)
We can not give up too much for him. Sure he is the best player in the land when he is FIT, but losing Fev will decrease the value in getting Judd. There would be nothing better than seeing Judd bursting out of the centre square at hitting Fev on the T I T from 30mtrs out.

What happens if Fev is not there? Our whole structure would have to change. Who would be our FF???

Waite would definitely have to play Forward, Fisher would not be our 3rd best forward and you will find that he will get the likes of Glass, Hudson, Scarlett and co. We will have to endure another year of fatso Whitnall.

The only viable option that we have is giving up picks 3, 20 and Bower or Fisher. Loosing Fisher would make me sick in the stomach but if W.C would be happy with those pick (which I’m sure they won’t be) and giving them Fisher would get the trade over the line then I would be a happy man.

If it’s more than that trade I feel that we would be paying way too much.

Who knows maybe Pick 3 (more than likely Morton) will turn out to be just as valuable as Judd, he may very well turn out to be a dud, but the likelihood is that we will be giving up a Proven A grader, one in which can and will win you a game off his own boot, and potentially another A grader. All for Juddy.

We can not sell our farm for the one bloke.

If Judd is not obtained I will still be delighted with Picks 1 & 3 and seeing Fev being the leading option out of the goal square for Murphy, Gibbs, Morton/Palmer, Simpson, Walker, Russell, Carrazzo and co to kick it to.
 

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I could live with option 2. Dont wanna lose Fev, Fish or the #1 pick though. And I really dont wanna see him end up at Collingwood, I dont care if he ends up somewhere else but please not collingwood! Hes too good a player to wear that dirty jumper.
 
I could live with option 2. Dont wanna lose Fev, Fish or the #1 pick though. And I really dont wanna see him end up at Collingwood, I dont care if he ends up somewhere else but please not collingwood! Hes too good a player to wear that dirty jumper.


Would hate to see judd at collingwood as well but if it means that
richmond give there #2 pick to collingwood in a trade to then be given to west coast then it might actually be ok.

#1 pick - Kruezer:thumbsu:
#3 pick - Cothchin:thumbsu:

west coast will take morton with the 2nd pick.:thumbsu:
 
totally agree Marc Smurph. It's probably not news to most BF posters but i just read the article in the HS about Judd being sidelined for 4 months. Doesn't this raise alarm bells with anyone? I say we stay away from this if they want anymore than pick 3 + Bower. I would not budge from that
 
Fev is a pretty poor example around the club and probably has about half the time left in football that Judd does. Would you prefer a role model like Judd for players like Murph, Grigg, Hampson, Gibbs etc....or Fev's and his inevitable dummy spits? I am not totally against the idea of trading him. I think Judd has a lot more to offer the football club on and off the field.
 
I am a Collingwood boy but I agree with you, Judd is not worth it, you are better off with picks 1 & 3 and keeping Fevola.



If one of the 3 happen

1. We give W.C Fev & pick 3
2. We give W.C Kennedy & pick 3
3. We give W.C picks 1 & 3 (I know that this is the most unlikely of them all)
We can not give up too much for him. Sure he is the best player in the land when he is FIT, but losing Fev will decrease the value in getting Judd. There would be nothing better than seeing Judd bursting out of the centre square at hitting Fev on the T I T from 30mtrs out.

What happens if Fev is not there? Our whole structure would have to change. Who would be our FF???

Waite would definitely have to play Forward, Fisher would not be our 3rd best forward and you will find that he will get the likes of Glass, Hudson, Scarlett and co. We will have to endure another year of fatso Whitnall.

The only viable option that we have is giving up picks 3, 20 and Bower or Fisher. Loosing Fisher would make me sick in the stomach but if W.C would be happy with those pick (which I’m sure they won’t be) and giving them Fisher would get the trade over the line then I would be a happy man.

If it’s more than that trade I feel that we would be paying way too much.

Who knows maybe Pick 3 (more than likely Morton) will turn out to be just as valuable as Judd, he may very well turn out to be a dud, but the likelihood is that we will be giving up a Proven A grader, one in which can and will win you a game off his own boot, and potentially another A grader. All for Juddy.

We can not sell our farm for the one bloke.

If Judd is not obtained I will still be delighted with Picks 1 & 3 and seeing Fev being the leading option out of the goal square for Murphy, Gibbs, Morton/Palmer, Simpson, Walker, Russell, Carrazzo and co to kick it to.
 
I can see where you're coming from and I'd also hate to give up Fev or pick 1.

But don't forget he is the BEST player in the league. Pick 3 plus some combination of players/draft picks is where i hope it ends up.

he was the best player last year and the year before, but not this year.
 
totally agree Marc Smurph. It's probably not news to most BF posters but i just read the article in the HS about Judd being sidelined for 4 months. Doesn't this raise alarm bells with anyone? I say we stay away from this if they want anymore than pick 3 + Bower. I would not budge from that

haha!! are you guys serious?? he is by far the best player in the competition!! we have built our side around him for 5 years!! you guys will do the same!! west coast would laugh at pick 3 and bower.. he has done nothing for you and will be even worse for us.. and dont pull 'he's a project player' cause he will be nothing more than a second rate player.. sounds harsh but you all know its true..
don't think west coast are just gonna let juddy dictate the terms.. john worsfold came out this morning and said it will be the trade that the eagles want, not what juddy wants..
which means carlton put something spectacular on offer otherwise he will be traded elsewhere..
 
haha!! are you guys serious?? he is by far the best player in the competition!! we have built our side around him for 5 years!! you guys will do the same!! west coast would laugh at pick 3 and bower.. he has done nothing for you and will be even worse for us.. and dont pull 'he's a project player' cause he will be nothing more than a second rate player.. sounds harsh but you all know its true..
don't think west coast are just gonna let juddy dictate the terms.. john worsfold came out this morning and said it will be the trade that the eagles want, not what juddy wants..
which means carlton put something spectacular on offer otherwise he will be traded elsewhere..


I don't rate Bower much either but i can't see many of the other teams offering you the world either so take what teams offer or richmond can have him.
 
he was the best player last year and the year before, but not this year.

he was second faourite on brownlow betting until he got injured.. he averaged 27 touches before he was injured.. he lead AFL in contested possessions.. he is a star.. and JUST turned 24.. you guys would be STUPID not to throw everything on the table for him... if he was a melbourne player coming to perth, id whack it all on the table for him.. don't forget there have been a lot of draft picks that have turned out duds!! especially ruckman like kruezer where he is bigger than everyone else in under 18 then when he comes up against a cox or sandlilands he suddenly think geez they got 15 kilograms on me and in sandilands cause a good 10cm..
 

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he was second faourite on brownlow betting until he got injured.. he averaged 27 touches before he was injured.. he lead AFL in contested possessions.. he is a star.. and JUST turned 24..

it's the was's that are the worry.
 
I don't rate Bower much either but i can't see many of the other teams offering you the world either so take what teams offer or richmond can have him.

im just saying mate if i was a carlton supporter id want nothing more than him to be a blues man.. so id throw everything on the table.. come the final day on trade week and no one has offered them enough, west coast will at least take something they wont let him go through to the pre-season draft..

this is what will happen.. final few hours about 5 teams throw eagles the trade deals, they say no to all, clubs go back a re-assess and give their final offers.. west coast will take the best deal on the table.. now if i was a carlton supporter i'd want that deal to be the best one there so we could get him..

i've said before on this site it will be pick 3,20 and kennedy...
still think juddy is worth more but we would take that...
if you don't think he is worth more wait until he plays in your team and represents ur club..
 
it's the was's that are the worry.

what's worrying about it?? he got a niggle and played with it for the rest of the year.. could have had surgery but that would have ruled him out.. west coast probably knew he was gonna leave at the end of the year so said fk it lets play him at 50% which was still good enough, and he can get surgery at the end of the year..

you would be crazy not to take him.. look at his achievemtns and he hasn't even reacher his full potential!!
 
this is what will happen.. final few hours about 5 teams throw eagles the trade deals, they say no to all, clubs go back a re-assess and give their final offers.. west coast will take the best deal on the table.. now if i was a carlton supporter i'd want that deal to be the best one there so we could get him..

but west coast don't have the power. He can just walk.
 
west coast probably knew he was gonna leave at the end of the year so said fk it lets play him at 50% which was still good enough, and he can get surgery at the end of the year..!!

and for all we know that has ruined him..
 
and for all we know that has ruined him..

haha then watch him run around next year after surgery and kick yourselfs cause you knew he was on offer and you were stupid enough to let him go..

'apparently' his shoulders were ruined and they were going to be a chronic problem when we drafted him as well.. :confused:
 
if he walks he will go to richmond, which is what id say the club he doesn't wanna go to..

richo said this morning he and most of the playing group would take a small pay trim to fit him in the salary cap

that's my second best option after coming to the blues for a fair deal. if he doesn't come to carlton i would love to see everyone else suffer.
 
he was second faourite on brownlow betting until he got injured.. he averaged 27 touches before he was injured.. he lead AFL in contested possessions.. he is a star.. and JUST turned 24.. you guys would be STUPID not to throw everything on the table for him... if he was a melbourne player coming to perth, id whack it all on the table for him.. don't forget there have been a lot of draft picks that have turned out duds!! especially ruckman like kruezer where he is bigger than everyone else in under 18 then when he comes up against a cox or sandlilands he suddenly think geez they got 15 kilograms on me and in sandilands cause a good 10cm..

Key phrase..before he was injured. You've seen a lot of Kreuzer then, who of course will never bulk up over his career:D

I'm sure Juddy wants to do the right thing by the Eagles, but I doubt that Woosha saying Judd will go to the team WC want will help the relationship.

Despite the fact that he wants to help your mob out, I doubt that he will be dictated to and agree to go to a club that he doesn't want to;)

When Judd nominates a team he wants to go to, you better hope it is one that you guys are hoping for. Otherwise you could be totally dudded:D
 

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