Recommitted Ian 'Bobby' Hill + R3 (40) to Collingwood for R3 (43) + F2

[PMBangers]

I'm shocked so many people want Hill, he's got a lot of talent and flashy moments, but when his side don't have momentum he's pretty ineffectual because he doesn't have much defensive drive, if he's not in a favourable spot to win the footy he won't, and he's happy to watch opponents walk the ball out of the forward 50. If we manage to get anything earlier than Pick 40 for him it's a win for us

 

[PieLebo87]

I don't think too many would take Daniher over Wright.

You mean just Essendon supporters…

 

[Lore]

You mean just Essendon supporters…

Understandable really though. If you’re Brisbane he’s one more string, complements your outfit, might win you a game but you can win without him if he has a bad one or gets injured too.

If you’re a club that has basically no other mature tall forwards, having someone a bit more reliable who wants to be there has noticeable benefits, even if they tend not to jump on someone’s head every few weeks and win MOTY in contentious circumstances.

 

[Lore]

I'm shocked so many people want Hill, he's got a lot of talent and flashy moments, but when his side don't have momentum he's pretty ineffectual because he doesn't have much defensive drive, if he's not in a favourable spot to win the footy he won't, and he's happy to watch opponents walk the ball out of the forward 50. If we manage to get anything earlier than Pick 40 for him it's a win for us

More than what we have at the moment although the work ethic issue is probably not gonna go well with the blue collar stuff Truck keeps pushing.

Guelfi and Snelling are both highly regarded internally, not for their overwhelming talent (which neither are particularly) but for their work ethic, consistency, applying pressure, etc. Not sure Hill would unseat either of them.

 

[PieLebo87]

Understandable really though. If you’re Brisbane he’s one more string, complements your outfit, might win you a game but you can win without him if he has a bad one or gets injured too.

Well said - 100% accurate.

If you’re a club that has basically no other mature tall forwards, having someone a bit more reliable who wants to be there has noticeable benefits, even if they tend not to jump on someone’s head every few weeks and win MOTY in contentious circumstances.

Also agree here. Joey is the X factor, but would be a huge choice to build your forward line around whilst 2MP is the no-frills type who’ll also bring it down and create better contests for the other forwards. Definitely the more consistent option.

If you had the two lined up against a wall, a lot of clubs are taking Daniher but you’re not wrong, 2MP would probably be more suitable for the Collingwood forward line if we had to pick one right now.

 

[McOrist]

Hill is a cousin of Leon Davis

Leon Davis

Age

43

Ht

177cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.5

3star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.0

1star

K

3.6

2star

HB

1.4

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

0.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

, who is now back at Collingwood full time in a support role.

 

[Foxx]

You mean just Essendon supporters…

I know who I'd prefer kicking for goal.
Wright covers more territory and gets to more contests.
Apart from that, they're both similar on field.
Daniher questionable morally off it.
Wright comes out on top.

 

[PieLebo87]

I know who I'd prefer kicking for goal.
Wright covers more territory and gets to more contests.
Apart from that, they're both similar on field.
Daniher questionable morally off it.
Wright comes out on top.

There’s a reason one had a compensation of pick 7 and the other was a 4th round pick. Open the other eye bud.

 

[Foxx]

There’s a reason one had a compensation of pick 7 and the other was a 4th round pick. Open the other eye bud.

Oh I'm intrigued. Please continue explaining why bud.

 

[Lore]

Hill is a cousin of Leon Davis, who is now back at Collingwood full time in a support role.

He seems to have a lot of cousins at AFL clubs, Stephen Hill retired end of last year from Freo, Brad Hill is now at St Kilda, and Courtney Ugle (VFLW player & off-field roles) is at Essendon. Seems like he'll have plenty of support from family in either Vic or WA.

 

[Go Woods]

Ginnivan and Hill the two smalls, Johnson and De Goey the midsize forwards + Henry as well. It’s a nice forward 50 setup that Collingwood will have next year.

De Goey has to play midfield. It’s our weakness at the moment.

 

[Snake Charmer]

There’s a reason one had a compensation of pick 7 and the other was a 4th round pick. Open the other eye bud.

Here it is….. one of the two best ways to compare players.. what they were traded for and the other, average super coach score. This ones tricky tho because Daniher was worth pick 7 but averages 63 where as Wright was a 4th round pick but averages 79

 

[PieLebo87]

Here it is….. one of the two best ways to compare players.. what they were traded for and the other, average super coach score. This ones tricky tho because Daniher was worth pick 7 but averages 63 where as Wright was a 4th round pick but averages 79

Excuse me for judging a player’s value across the competition by their trade value within the last 24 months

Let’s just go by their form across a 21 week period only and neglect exposed form across their entire careers.

You’re laughing yet you’re trying to compare one forward who’s had a pretty injury free season with one who missed a 6 week block due to injury and yet the ‘poorer’ one is still averaging 2.1 goals per game vs Wright’s absolute career best season average of 2.4 goals.

 

[Snake Charmer]

Excuse me for judging a player’s value across the competition by their trade value within the last 24 months

Let’s just go by their form across a 21 week period only and neglect exposed form across their entire careers.

You’re laughing yet you’re trying to compare one forward who’s had a pretty injury free season with one who missed a 6 week block due to injury and yet the ‘poorer’ one is still averaging 2.1 goals per game vs Wright’s absolute career best season average of 2.4 goals.

I’m laughing because you are trying to compare 2 players based on there value 24 months ago. It’s stupid. Wright is clearly a different player, worth a lot more now.

Fwiw I’d say Joey is the better player. Wright’s turning him self in to a bloody good one tho

 

[PieLebo87]

I’m laughing because you are trying to compare 2 players based on there value 24 months ago. It’s stupid. Wright is clearly a different player, worth a lot more now.

Fwiw I’d say Joey is the better player. Wright’s turning him self in to a bloody good one tho

Needs to do it for more than one season to even be in the same conversation as Daniher.

Not even Joey’s best season, and has missed a chunk of games yet has provided more goals in 15 games than Wright has done in any season across his career before 2022.

 

[Foxx]

Excuse me for judging a player’s value across the competition by their trade value within the last 24 months

Let’s just go by their form across a 21 week period only and neglect exposed form across their entire careers.

You’re laughing yet you’re trying to compare one forward who’s had a pretty injury free season with one who missed a 6 week block due to injury and yet the ‘poorer’ one is still averaging 2.1 goals per game vs Wright’s absolute career best season average of 2.4 goals.

Everybody can see he's become at least as good Daniher.

 

[Foxx]

Needs to do it for more than one season to even be in the same conversation as Daniher.

Not even Joey’s best season, and has missed a chunk of games yet has provided more goals in 15 games than Wright has done in any season across his career before 2022.

Daniher has had maybe 3 good years in his career.

 

[PieLebo87]

Everybody can see he's become at least as good Daniher.

He kicks 40-50 goals next year and I’ll agree with you.

Daniher has had maybe 3 good years in his career.

That’s two more than Wright though.

 

[Anzacday]

PieLebo87 who cares about Wright and Daniher at the best of times.
Let alone in a Bobby Hill thread.

 

[Ash1337]

This thread needs to get back on track. Leave the Daniher/wright talk out.

Hill has been very unlucky recent years. I think he'll still come good and that is why he is being sought after. I think a early 3rd will be about the mark for him.

 

[Go Woods]

Hill’s speed and evasive skills would be a welcomed addition to Collingwood’s small’s forward structure, if he does come across, complimenting Ginnivan, McCreery and Elliot.

 

[legendstatus]

Nearly all players interested in the Pies are rubbish or not suited according to BF ?


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[Strapping Young Lad]

Bobby Hill will return from his cancer fight this week. Good luck to him.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Could he put on a bit of muscle and play a similar role to Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

25

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

?

 

[PieLebo87]

Media now talking the Pies have cooled on Taranto and made Hill their priority from GWS. What would it actually cost for Hill to move?