Recommitted Ian 'Bobby' Hill + R3 (40) to Collingwood for R3 (43) + F2

[Taylor]

I don't think there is any first round protection. The ruling as I understand it, is any deficit comes off the future year in the same round the bid was made.

Eg. If a bid was made in the 3rd round and there was a deficit, then neither the 1st or 2nd rounders are touched, and any deficit comes off the 3rd and 4th (if required).

If both Ashcroft and Fletcher are bid on in the first round, then there is no protection whatsoever to any of Brisbanes future picks.

The future first protection is only when the bid falls outside the first round.

 

[Dangerousfield]

The future first protection is only when the bid falls outside the first round.

Anyone trading in Brisbane's future first does so in the knowledge that the pick would be pushed back in the draft order if Brisbane have points to deduct off a future first.

You're betting on where Brisbane will finish next season, then sweating off how many debit points off that pick as well. Way too risky, what you think might be mid teens could end up in the 20's

 

[giantroo]

 

[zeggie]

GWS have done well here.

 

[Libbaaaa]

GWS have done well here.

Agreed.

 

[Ginnieboy]

GWS have done well here.

That’s because we’re fair traders.

 

[Rusty Beam]

That’s because we’re fair traders.

Yep. Nothing good comes from a bad relationship

 

[Suma Magic]

You do not when you are using points to match a deficit from the previous draft.

That’s a really interesting point. Clubs should probably be limited to a certain number of future picks that can be used towards a matching deficit, potentially the number of spare list spots taken into this years draft.

Lions should match bids by getting all the 2022 round 3 picks they can get their hands on.

 

[Suma Magic]

Anyone trading in Brisbane's future first does so in the knowledge that the pick would be pushed back in the draft order if Brisbane have points to deduct off a future first.

You're betting on where Brisbane will finish next season, then sweating off how many debit points off that pick as well. Way too risky, what you think might be mid teens could end up in the 20's

If the lions trade it, then it won’t be used to match bids.

 

[RuFiO]

GWS have done well here.

Anyone is going to do well when they're trading with Collingwood...

 

[Orange crush]

Anyone is going to do well when they're trading with Collingwood...

I think we have a good relationship with our previous trades and not screwing you over by bidding for daicos

 

[Nick Daicos Fan]

Horrible value for Collingwood.

Hill has potential but has shown virtually nothing to date.

Couldn't even break into a bottom 3 side in the AFL.

I suspect this is us repaying the favour for GWS not bidding on Daicos last year.

 

[Bay Pie]

Anyone is going to do well when they're trading with Collingwood...

Yep. Feel like we’ve paid overs for a guy who hardly played this year, albeit due to a very serious illness.

Not convinced with Wright at all. His top ups stuffed Hawthorn royally.

 

[Bianconeri]

Couldn't even break into a bottom 3 side in the AFL.

He was best 22 before he was diagnosed with cancer

 

[Nick Daicos Fan]

He was best 22 before he was diagnosed with cancer

Ooops, didn't know that. my bad

 

[Orange Agent]

He was best 22 before he was diagnosed with cancer

There was no competition for his role. He should of been dropped many times.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

There was no competition for his role. He should of been dropped many times.

Yeah this feels like a massive overpay from Collingwood for a dude who wasnt exactly sitting the world on fire before his health issues

 

[Gold Rocks]

There was no competition for his role. He should of been dropped many times.

Yeah this feels like a massive overpay from Collingwood for a dude who wasnt exactly sitting the world on fire before his health issues

Ooops, didn't know that. my bad

Yep. Feel like we’ve paid overs for a guy who hardly played this year, albeit due to a very serious illness.

Not convinced with Wright at all. His top ups stuffed Hawthorn royally.

If you work out the deal in points or whatever it’s adds up to being like pick 48 for hill. Both teams get pick swaps to use on other trade deals so it’s a win win to be honest.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

If you work out the deal in points or whatever it’s adds up to being like pick 48 for hill. Both teams get pick swaps to use on other trade deals so it’s a win win to be honest.

How does it work out at 48?

 

[VinnieB]

Even if it's pick 35, chances of getting a good draft pick isn't that spectacular. I think people over-value draft picks after 25 anyway.
The % of successful picks drops off significantly.

Also, I suspect he may be playing further up the field for the Pies and bring further speed.

 

[Gold Rocks]

How does it work out at 48?

View attachment 1525047

Your a mod and post with so much hate in pies threads it’s odd. Second round picks in the late 30’s are hit and a lot of missses so it’s a good deal if you know your footy. Read it on the pies board about the hill deal being around pick 49 all up Moore of the Same.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Your a mod and post with so much hate in pies threads it’s odd. Second round picks in the late 30’s are hit and a lot of missses so it’s a good deal if you know your footy. Read it on the pies board about the hill deal being around pick 49 all up Moore of the Same.

What are you talkin bout Willis? I have nothing again Collingwood and I dont like the trade, I doubt I'm alone there. The deal is not worth around pick 49, no matter how someone dresses it up.

Could you link me to the times I've shown "so much hate towards Collingwood" as I'm quite curious

 

[Giant Strides]

Read it on the pies board about the hill deal being around pick 49 all up Moore of the Same.

I read that post ... but you've misunderstood it. The cost is more than just pick #49, even if Pies win the flag next year.

Notwithstanding, largely a win-win. I agree it's likely the result of goodwill from GWS not bidding on Daicos last year.

 

[Gold Rocks]

What are you talkin bout Willis? I have nothing again Collingwood and I dont like the trade, I doubt I'm alone there. The deal is not worth around pick 49, no matter how someone dresses it up.

Could you link me to the times I've shown "so much hate towards Collingwood" as I'm quite curious

You have no idea about footy if you have a list need picks outside the first round don’t mean much as we won three flags trading fairly but your just stuck on the picks and not the big picture…… deals a win win by both clubs end of story as graham wright done deals like this to win hawthorn three flags.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You have no idea about footy if you have a list need picks outside the first round don’t mean much as we won three flags trading fairly but your just stuck on the picks and not the big picture…… deals a win win by both clubs end of story as graham wright done deals like this to win hawthorn three flags.

Are you going to answer any of my questions or just going to keep ranting incoherently?
1) Where is the pick 48-49 coming from?
2) Where have I been a "hating on Collingwood"?