karmafree
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Sorry L2M4G the guy annoys the crap out of me. He won't shut up. States the bleeding obvious.
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Sorry L2M4G the guy annoys the crap out of me. He won't shut up. States the bleeding obvious.
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Don't think so brother.
He would be the best commentator at understanding defensive structures and positioning.
As I said, I couldn't stand him as a footballer, but his commentary is very informative.
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He shouldn't be allowed to commentate on geelong games though. Sort of how everyone hated Eddie Maguire doing the Collingwood games.
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We must be yin and yang (or maybe Zig and Zag).
I thought he was quite a clever footballer, but pretty useless as a commentator. I will qualify that by saying I only watch St Kilda games (save for a few minutes here and there on other matches), where he just doesn't seem to add anything.
But I'll take him over Du-Wayne or the Rat's Tossbag or Lacey Underall (Caddyshack aficionados will get that one).
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Well, no St. Kilda person has said it. In fact, you are very good sports, and some of the better supporters in the league. It is mainly Caroline Wilson, who has said many times since last year's Grand Final, when talking about video umpires or extra goal umpires, as well as Lyon's comment last week, that Hawkins behind being awarded a goal COST St. Kilda the Grand Final. She constantly says it. I would like someone to point out to her on radio, or "Footy Classified" that if you count Hawkins' goal as a point, we would have been five points behind, not six (as she seems to contend), and if you remove Rooke's after-siren goal (which she has also disputed), then we would be five points behind. However, Chapman's goal, would still have had us win by a point, if Hawkins' score was a point, not a goal.
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The Saints contributed to their own demise too. St. Kilda still had one last chance to goal after the Chapman one, when Stephen Milne was running towards goal. However, he tried soccering it along the ground like he does at Etihad Stadium. The problem was, it was the MCG, and the ground was wet, so the bounce went through the behinds, and not the goal (like it often has at Etihad). That, as much as anything, cost you the game. Kicking a point also allowed the ball to come back to Geelong, and Harry Taylor held up the ball until kicking it to Rooke, just before the siren. So, in fact, Milne hurt your chances by not "joe the goosing" it into an open goalsquare.
Eddie never bothered me. I felt it was more of a case of "Eddie is with Collingwood so his commentary must be biased... lets find something " rather than anything obvious.
Milne managed to dribble one through at the G on friday though, but you are right, he was way too far out last year to try to get one of those shots through in such wet weather - a bad decision on his behalf.
Watching that game and seeing the missed shots ealier on, I turned to my wife and said these missed goals will cost us later. They did.
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Im pretty sure the incident you are talking about happened in the 2nd quater.... We had our chances in that last quater to win it , we just weren't ment to in the end. No one is saying the Hawkins poster 'cost' us the game. But it certainly changed the dynamic of the game and you can not say one way or the other how much it really effected things. The point of that argument versus Bomber Thompsons argument about the dubious free kick are completely different though. The poster was a human error (no matter what it ment to the game or not) and this one was the right call. Everyone can see that. If we were to start questioning decisions that may or may not have cost us we would be talking about how Schneider was running in to some open space to pick up the ball in the last Q 35 meters out from goal and Enright brought him to ground by pulling his jumper before he even got near the ball and was play on.
Point is these things happen every single game. I would love it if someone from Geelong just came out and said St. Kilda out played us, the better team on the night won, the decision was the right call and didn't cost us.
For the record umpiring decisions didn't cost us the GF, but I haven't heard anyone say that? Our coach never even brought them up, it was just an argument to try and prove a point about how petty Bomber was being.
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I don't find Harley all that biased when he commentates Geelong games, he is usually pretty generous in his praise for the opposition if they're beating Geelong and doesn't sound bitter if they lose, unlike some other ex-players like Luke Darcy.
Think he's quite a decent commentator overall who offers some good insights.
I agree with you there, I don't find him biaised when commenting Geelong games. But what you say about the insights, he only has them about Geelong, their structures and their game plans. When he speaks about other teams, I don't see any insight at all, he mostly says obvious things.
At least, he's much better than Luke Darcy or Rohan Smith (god, he's "helping" Dwayne Russel add insight during the finals at The Winners, and he's atrocious).
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I said a few posts back that St. Kilda outplayed us, and that it was a free kick. That wasn't why we lost.
I guess I am just annoyed with how this has dominated the whole week. Certain St. Kilda people act so morally superior, like they haven't ever blamed umpires secretlt for costing them games. How about, instead, that I believe that the free kick, although right, would not had been paid if it wasn't Cameron Mooney infringing. It is no secret that Mooney never gets frees. I know he doesn't help his cause, but umpires are portrayed as oh so above reproach and aren't suppoused to make decisions based on what they think of an individual person. It is either a free or not, no matter who it is against. I know that if it were Nick Riewoldt, he would have got the free kick.
I respect your team, and hope that, if we don't make the Grand Final, you wipe Collingwood. But don't start acting like St. Kilda and Ross Lyon wouldn't carry on if the free kick wasn't paid, and we won.
He received 2 on Friday night...1 more than Nick 'protect species' Riewoldt
A goal gifted by the goal umpire, and another from a soft free kick.
Touché!
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He received 2 on Friday night...1 more than Nick 'protect species' Riewoldt
A goal gifted by the goal umpire, and another from a soft free kick.
Riewoldt - 22 possessions (1 free kick)
Mooney - 9 possessions (2 via free kicks)
DT 1 (own goal?)
Hendo 0 (stats are a bitch aren't they!)
Look2Me4Guidance
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If Mooney wants more free kicks, telling the umpires "you've just cost us the game" is probably not the best way to go about it.
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Stats are a bitch!
Now, can you get me the stats for possessions Lenny Hayes got in the Grand Final before and after Jimmy Bartel did a magnificent shut-down job on him, and rendered him ineffective after half-time. LOL!
Look2Me4Guidance
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Seems to work for Steve Johnson.
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Stats are a bitch!
Now, can you get me the stats for possessions Lenny Hayes got in the Grand Final before and after Jimmy Bartel did a magnificent shut-down job on him, and rendered him ineffective after half-time. LOL!
Why don't you slink back to your own forum, Troll.
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Why don't you slink back to your own forum, Troll.
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You know, in the H-Sun yesterday, it had on the back page "Foot Soldier", and a picture of Lenny Hayes
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Stats are a bitch!
Now, can you get me the stats for possessions Lenny Hayes got in the Grand Final before and after Jimmy Bartel did a magnificent shut-down job on him, and rendered him ineffective after half-time. LOL!
Can you give me Joel Selwoods stats to half time when you played us 2 weeks ago when the game was up for grabs with no one tagging him. Whilst your at it get Lenny Hayes stats from that game
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Despite me stirring you guys up, I do hope that your Saints wipe Collingwood this Saturday.
One word of advice. Last year, when Geelong won, Mark Thompson attributed it to the pain of losing the GF in 2008. I hope that, if the game is close, St. Kilda use the disappointment of last year to go for those extra efforts when their bodies are spent. That the pain drives them, and they won't allow anything to cause them to miss out again.
Also, when we won in 2007, it was a fantastic feeling, finally breaking a 44-year drought. Well, it has been 44 years since your flag, so I hope that your supporters and players can feel the elation that I and everyone associated with Geelong did.
Good luck, and beat the Pies.
One word of advice. Last year, when Geelong won, Mark Thompson attributed it to the pain of losing the GF in 2008. I hope that, if the game is close, St. Kilda use the disappointment of last year to go for those extra efforts when their bodies are spent. That the pain drives them, and they won't allow anything to cause them to miss out again.
Also, when we won in 2007, it was a fantastic feeling, finally breaking a 44-year drought. Well, it has been 44 years since your flag, so I hope that your supporters and players can feel the elation that I and everyone associated with Geelong did.
Good luck, and beat the Pies.
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Despite me stirring you guys up, I do hope that your Saints wipe Collingwood this Saturday.
One word of advice. Last year, when Geelong won, Mark Thompson attributed it to the pain of losing the GF in 2008. I hope that, if the game is close, St. Kilda use the disappointment of last year to go for those extra efforts when their bodies are spent. That the pain drives them, and they won't allow anything to cause them to miss out again.
Also, when we won in 2007, it was a fantastic feeling, finally breaking a 44-year drought. Well, it has been 44 years since your flag, so I hope that your supporters and players can feel the elation that I and everyone associated with Geelong did.
Good luck, and beat the Pies.
cheers d, you're generally good banter.
unlike some supporters on and indeed off this site..........
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