We have won three flags with this group, we dont need to prove anything to anybody. Its no more important than the other four preliminary finals we have played in the past five years.
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We have won three flags with this group, we dont need to prove anything to anybody. Its no more important than the other four preliminary finals we have played in the past five years.
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As mentioned by clogged, Rioli has played in every match for Hawthorn.
I know that the Rnd 15 Footy Record had a little bit about the players from each side who had played in all 10 matches as it was at that stage. I think the Hawks possible had 3 or so players with Rioli one of them, Geelong may have been about 5 or 6 (please don't hold me to that) which includes Enright and possibly guys like Bartel, Selwood, Mackie.
Good luck to anyone want to research it
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If you're talking about the "very core" of both football clubs, perhaps you should go back to 1963.
Basically it's 2 grandfinals to 1. This is our first prelim, history is about to be written.
We've had our own battles in this era outside of Hawthorn, fierce rivalries with the Saints & Pies. The Hawks have had their own battles too, losing their last two "big games" - the 2012 GF & the 2011 prelim.
Anwyay tonight the vanquished should remember - Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.
Hoffy95
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Yes you did.
Care to share with the good people of BF what the record is for sides that don't win the QF since the current finals system has been in place?
Think you might find it turns out to be an important game.
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three hawks fans need to repost this counter-spell to break the curse:
In the name of Peter Crimmins, I rebuke the Kennett Curse that has been sent Hawthorn’s way, passed down the generational bloodline since the 2008 grand final. I take authority over all of them and command that the curse goes back to where it came from and be replaced with a blessing.
Hawthorn have more to lose tonight than us, we have 3 flags in the bag, to be in another prelim after the success we've had is amazing, just love the catters.
Hawthorn got one in 08 but have done stuff all since and if they lose tonight, then they would have failed miserably because I don't see them as being the top team next year or beyond that, so there time is now.
Hawthorn got one in 08 but have done stuff all since and if they lose tonight, then they would have failed miserably because I don't see them as being the top team next year or beyond that, so there time is now.
catters05
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The Kennetts curse will mean absolutely nothing and the persona will last that Geelong can not beat Hawthorn when it really counts. Now I am not a fan of either side and to be honest hope Geelong win tonight but I feel like this footy club needs to prove that on the biggest stages it can defeat Hawthorn.
This obviously dates back to the 1989 Grand final which is considered the greatest of all time, however looking deeper into it from that date Geelong when it really counts struggle to get past the Hawks. We all know this is not a player/individual thing but more so reaches to the very core of both football clubs, this rivalry is truly unique and 1 of a kind.
1989 GF - Haw def Gee - 144-138
1991 S/F - Haw def Gee - 95-93
2000 E/F - Haw def Gee - 92-83
2008 GF - Haw def Gee - 115-89
The modern day Geelong organisation need to defeat Hawthorn tonight, it will do justice to the footy club as a whole. However, sadly, I think this 'other' more important curse will continue and the Hawks will march onto next week.
So basically you are just pointing out that Geelong lost two Grand Finals to Hawthorn.....as the others seem irrelevant if you do not include the 2011 Qualifying Final.
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If there was one supporter group that would know better than to say that it would be Cat supporters, it is, after all, what people have been saying about the Cats for about 3 years.
More to lose? ahhhh, we both have a spot in a GF to lose.
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Really silly thread. This nonsense of "they can't beat Hawthorn when it counts" is just peddled by Hawks fans to make themselves feel a bit better about the 11 game streak. I have Hawk mates who say it but you can tell they don't really believe it.
With Geelong's outs and Hawthorn's ins whilst being fully rested, a Geelong victory would be somewhat of an upset, curse or no curse. If they lose, it will mean nothing in terms of their period of dominance. The one time they've had to face Hawthorn in the finals since 08, they've beaten them.
With Geelong's outs and Hawthorn's ins whilst being fully rested, a Geelong victory would be somewhat of an upset, curse or no curse. If they lose, it will mean nothing in terms of their period of dominance. The one time they've had to face Hawthorn in the finals since 08, they've beaten them.
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Can the OP go stand in the corner please?
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How many other clubs have struggled to beat the Catsa in the past 4 - 5 years?
There can't be too many that have beaten them.
It's not a Kennett curse, it's a Cats will go down as one of the greatest teams of all time and very few have beaten them more than once in the past 6 years, curse. (bar Freo for some strange reason)
There can't be too many that have beaten them.
It's not a Kennett curse, it's a Cats will go down as one of the greatest teams of all time and very few have beaten them more than once in the past 6 years, curse. (bar Freo for some strange reason)
Big Fozza
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People caan look at whatever history they want but its means sweet fa 1/2 way thru the 4th qtr when there's only a kick in it
Big Fozza
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People caan look at whatever history they want but its means sweet fa 1/2 way thru the 4th qtr when there's only a kick in it
Never said I think they'll be shit, just that they won't be the top team. They'll still be there abouts though, still top 4.
Geelong have been the better side every time since 2009, as they also were in 1963.
Hawthorn were the better side in 1989, and on GF day in 2008.
All the other finals and night GF's, and R22 1987, and all the other "big" games, are irrelevant tonight.
Both sides have some history on their side, both supporter groups could quote old stats to calm their nerves, but all that really matters is a place in this years GF.
The only thing that matters today is - who will be the better side tonight?
Hawthorn were the better side in 1989, and on GF day in 2008.
All the other finals and night GF's, and R22 1987, and all the other "big" games, are irrelevant tonight.
Both sides have some history on their side, both supporter groups could quote old stats to calm their nerves, but all that really matters is a place in this years GF.
The only thing that matters today is - who will be the better side tonight?
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Ok, so we've ascertained that you're 5 years old. Good on you little guy, but 'crap' is a naughty word
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Win the QF: a week off and an MCG final against a West Coast team that, with all due respect, was just happy to be there. As easy a ride into the GF as there's been, in recent memory.
Lose the QF: semi-final against Sydney and then a PF against the top team in the H&A season (much the same path as Geelong has travelled in this year's finals). Considering the way Collingwood ran over them at the end of the game, yeah you could say it was important.
Then there's the losses in 2009, which cost them a spot in the finals and 2010, which cost them a home elimination final. When Hawthorn was in that hangover period, the late-season games that they played against Geelong were practically finals for them, because they were coming from so far back.
I'm not going to lie though: having the streak bookended by a GF and PF loss would not be ideal.
Hawthorn 12.11 83
Geelong 12.12 84
12. Trent West, BOG
Geelong 12.12 84
12. Trent West, BOG
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Also to make them feel better about their underperformance in general since 2008. They were heralded as a new super team, and unlike previous times that has been claimed, have not followed it up at all.
I don't think the rivalry, though I am sure it is strongly there will mean as much as what the game is - An elimination final which decides which team gets to play in the GF. I doubt there is any extra incentive other than either team needs to win to make the GF. In saying that, Hawthorn must be sick to death of losing in tight matches since they last beat them in the GF. Geelogn fans may get pleasure out of winning tonight for the so called 'curse' but in the end Geelong are really only playing to be in a GF, as are Hawthorn.
If Hawthorn win - they will happen to have won a crucial game.
I am though interested in the reverse question, what will the implications be for Hawthorn if they happen to lose tonight, because of all times since the GF this is the one time they should win. They have been a powerhouse team for a while, yet only two GF appearances from 2008 and one victory, well its better than most clubs mind you.
If Hawthorn win - they will happen to have won a crucial game.
I am though interested in the reverse question, what will the implications be for Hawthorn if they happen to lose tonight, because of all times since the GF this is the one time they should win. They have been a powerhouse team for a while, yet only two GF appearances from 2008 and one victory, well its better than most clubs mind you.
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