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I'LL KILL YOU
By REBEKAH DEVLIN
23dec05
The real story: What Simon Goodwin said


outside Raglan's Hotel at 11am

ADELAIDE Crows star Simon Goodwin physically assaulted and threatened a photographer after a drunken night with teammates spilled on to the street outside a city hotel at about 11am yesterday.

A clearly intoxicated Goodwin pushed Advertiser photographer Tait Schmaal against a wall, pressed his forearm against Schmaal's throat and told him: "If you run any photos, I'll f...ing kill you."

Several players, including Crows captain Mark Ricciuto, were drinking at Waymouth St pub Raglan's, which is co-owned by former Crows player Wayne Carey, early yesterday morning after celebrations for the conclusion of the year's training on Wednesday and a friend's 30th birthday.

After a call from the public alerting The Advertiser to unruly behaviour by some of the players, Schmaal went to the hotel about 9.35am but did not enter and remained on the public footpath at all times.

Before the altercation, he photographed Crows players Rhett Biglands, Ben Hudson and Nathan Bock running across Waymouth St and wrestling.

Schmaal also photographed a parking inspector being doused with a drink, which was thrown from inside the hotel.

The Crows denied that it was thrown by a player.

Soon afterwards, Goodwin left Raglan's. When he noticed Schmaal, Goodwin approached and shoved the photographer before attempting to snatch his camera out of his hands.

"If you run any photos, I'll f...ing kill you," Goodwin said to Schmaal, who asked: "Is that a threat?"

Goodwin replied that it was.

The current Crows club champion then pushed Schmaal against a wall and pressed his forearm against Schmaal's throat.

"You're f...ed if you run this," Goodwin said to Schmaal.

Raglan's co-owner Rob Kent had to pull Goodwin's arms away from Schmaal.

Mark Ricciuto also told Advertiser reporter Rebekah Devlin that no Crows players would deal with The Advertiser if the incident was publicised.

Biglands and Scott Welsh tried to defuse the situation - Welsh physically restrained an agitated Ricciuto and Biglands attempted to convince Devlin not to publish the pictures.

Ozexperience.com tour consultant Tracy Bryant witnessed the incident, which occurred on the footpath outside her office.

"I saw them (the Crows players) play-fighting in the street earlier, but then I didn't see any more of them until your photographer was slammed up against the wall," she said.

"It was crazy. I heard Goodwin shouting 'I'm going to kill you if you print those'."

During a press conference called by the Crows following the attack, Goodwin denied he had threatened to kill anyone.

Ms Bryant said soon after the incident, she saw the players leave Raglan's and not return. "They were running amok, it was nuts," she said. "It was just crazy. I couldn't believe it."

The players were believed to have been on a late-night drinking binge.

A Crows statement said the players had returned home at 5am after Christmas celebrations. However, the statement also said they arrived at the pub at 10.30am.

Biglands told The Advertiser the players had only been at Raglan's since 11am, but they were seen in the bar drinking at 9am and photographed at 10am.

At the press conference, at West Lakes, Goodwin said he "forcefully mishandled" Schmaal because he felt his personal space was being invaded.

"I feel that I reacted in a manner which is unbecoming and I certainly regret that," he said. "It was a response that is unnatural to me and something that I deeply regret."

Goodwin phoned Schmaal to apologise yesterday afternoon and conceded during the media conference he could have dealt with things "a lot better".

Asked if he had threatened to kill Schmaal if he published the photographs, Goodwin replied: "I did not at any stage threaten to kill him."

In a prepared statement, club chief executive Steven Trigg admitted Goodwin had "lost it".

He stressed that the club did not condone his action but "it does support Simon Goodwin", and said that given Goodwin's public apology and personal call to Schmaal, the club intended to take no further action.

"There are no other incidents or surrounding behaviour of which we are either embarrassed, ashamed or going to take action. I want to be clear about that," he said.

He said the Crows leadership group would probably consider the matter in the New Year.

Coach Neil Craig said the incident would be "a learning experience" and the club could turn it "into a positive".

"In the end, I think it will be a fantastic learning experience for our whole playing group of the responsibility they have," Craig said.

Statements were made to SA Police by Schmaal and the parking inspector but neither elected to press charges.
 
Good to see the Advertiser living up to its reputation as the worst rag in Australia. Theres some good unbiased reporting right there.:rolleyes:

Thank god i dont get it anymore.
 

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well it's clear. in no way can a drunken retort to "f-king kill" someone be presumed to be anything other than a clear statement of intent to end his life. I mean Goodwin obviously intends to locate this man's home, and in cold blood murder him, his family, his pets and the cabbage patch dolls.
how is he still allowed to roam the streets?

what an absolute joke.

with quality investigative journalism like this, the guy should win a pulitzer for roaming the Waymouth means streets.
 
As a Port supporter it would be easy for me to take some kind of sadistic pleasure in this whole affair - it's not everyday you get the opportunity to take the mickey when one of the star players of your cross-town rivals makes the news in a alcohol fuelled incident.

But the truth is I can't.

This affair smells of opportunism. The Advertiser have taken advantage of a slow news day to wring every last drop out of a small story.

Now don't get me wrong, If I were a Crows supporter I would question the need for the extended drinking session anyway. I would also question why Mark Riccuito had to be restrained by Scott Weslsh (although we only have the Advertiser's word for this).

But please.......this is over the top and this completes the Advertiser's sad decline into a scandal rag.

ps. I'm waiting for the rumours that it was Byron who threw the drink over the parking inspector.
 
GERVAIS said:
The Advertiser have taken advantage of a slow news day to wring every last drop out of a small story.
Isn't that their job?

Players and teams can't control the actions of the media, but they can control their actions.

Goodwin was stupid here and I'm sure he realises that. Totally out of character for him and I'm sure that's whay most are giving him the benefit of any doubt. He's a smart bloke though (at least when he's sober) and he won't allow himself to be in the position again.
 
The Crows Truth said:
Coach Neil Craig said the incident would be "a learning experience" and the club could turn it "into a positive".

"In the end, I think it will be a fantastic learning experience for our whole playing group of the responsibility they have," Craig said.

ROFL. Gotta love Craigy. :D
 
Have to agree with Gervais here:

please.......this is over the top and this completes the Advertiser's sad decline into a scandal rag.

The Advertiser has gone way over the top here. I think their name will be mud with the Crows now, and hopefully none of the players will agree to have anything to do with any of their reporters from now on.

The players were wrong to be drunk in a public place, Simon was wrong to do and say what he did. But to play it out on the front page of the paper, plus two or three other pages as well? PLEASE! Get real. Even Elton's wedding is more important that that! The Advertiser's editor seems like a petty little man, with a petty little agenda.

I hope the backlash from the public will show them how pathetic they are, but as the saying goes "any publicity is better than none", and I'm sure all at the Advertiser will be rubbing their hands with glee at the outcry this has produced.
 
Taking into account all his actions, what Goodwin did would appear to constitute an assault on the photographer. This makes him liable both criminally and civilly. There are witnesses to both the verbal and physical acts (and Goodwin as much as admits the physical response in his apology). So maybe you should consider him lucky that he's not facing a magistrate and this isn't hanging over his head for the season (given the time these things can take to resolve).

Now considering this is a high profile player in the highest profile sporting team in this town, I'd say that does amount to news, Vincenzo. Certainly moreso than a "rock star wedding".

On top of that there's the idiocy of the whole incident, especially just days after the crows copped a negative banner front page over Johncock's offence. Sponsors don't like this sort of publicity. The AFL doesn't like this sort of publicity. And there's usually only ever one winner in a stoush with the media ...
 
Sad to say but that is why I buy the Herald Sun at least Victorians do something right. They write unbiased news articles which report on the issues not give personal opinions.
 

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swanfan said:
Sad to say but that is why I buy the Herald Sun at least Victorians do something right. They write unbiased news articles which report on the issues not give personal opinions.

Herald Sun? No. The Age? Maybe.

By the way the Herald Sun uses articles written by Advertiser writers from time to time.
 
Well i said on another thread that Simon had let himself & his club down by not controlling his actions &i still think that way.

But bloody hell if that's all the tizer & it's whining editor can come up with then no wonder this state is seen as a basket case by some of our interstate critics.

Those photos are a complete non-event & those at the tizer who are behind this ********-up should be bloody well ashamed of themselves for even printing the story/photos let alone on the front page.

& Rucci is not even in the country.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
Taking into account all his actions, what Goodwin did would appear to constitute an assault on the photographer. This makes him liable both criminally and civilly. There are witnesses to both the verbal and physical acts (and Goodwin as much as admits the physical response in his apology). So maybe you should consider him lucky that he's not facing a magistrate and this isn't hanging over his head for the season (given the time these things can take to resolve).

Now considering this is a high profile player in the highest profile sporting team in this town, I'd say that does amount to news, Vincenzo. Certainly moreso than a "rock star wedding".

On top of that there's the idiocy of the whole incident, especially just days after the crows copped a negative banner front page over Johncock's offence. Sponsors don't like this sort of publicity. The AFL doesn't like this sort of publicity. And there's usually only ever one winner in a stoush with the media ...

Your right. It does amount to news. But it could also be argued that the sexual assult of a young girl by 3 Sth Australian footballers also would seem pretty newsworthy. But I don't recall seeing front page and 2-3 pages on that incident.

As for Goodwin and co., pretty stupid thing to do. Especially when you consider our daily rag has been gunning for anti-Crows material for a few years now.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
Taking into account all his actions, what Goodwin did would appear to constitute an assault on the photographer. This makes him liable both criminally and civilly. There are witnesses to both the verbal and physical acts (and Goodwin as much as admits the physical response in his apology). So maybe you should consider him lucky that he's not facing a magistrate and this isn't hanging over his head for the season (given the time these things can take to resolve).

Now considering this is a high profile player in the highest profile sporting team in this town, I'd say that does amount to news, Vincenzo. Certainly moreso than a "rock star wedding".

On top of that there's the idiocy of the whole incident, especially just days after the crows copped a negative banner front page over Johncock's offence. Sponsors don't like this sort of publicity. The AFL doesn't like this sort of publicity. And there's usually only ever one winner in a stoush with the media ...

Tecnically it is an assault, but I'll bet you wouldn't find one mark of harm on this photographer today. In reality he was man-handled, not assaulted, but that shouldn't have happened. Goodwin acted out of line.

However, when you read pages 1,4,5,6 - and this fkg beat-up is the only topic on those pages (the story of a 30 year old man and his 55 year old mother arrested for possession of 15,000 ecstasy tablets is a snippet on page 18) - you have to say that the Advertiser has embarrassed itself and exposed itself as a Z grade rag not worthy of the title of news-paper.

Their damning photos include shots of Huddo and Biglands laughingly messing around (deemed as a fight by the rag) and the violent shots of the same two gentlemen walking down the street, deemed by the rag as carrying this fracas into the public arena.

Then of course we have a shot - presumably taken by the photographer who we were told was just standing on the street - of the violent beer spray coming out of the hotel. Acid rain undoubtedly!! Not that anybody has accused or proven the Crows players of throwing it, but isn't it nice to bundle it up with all the rest of the garbage to make it look like they did.

FF, what we have here are 2 things:

Goodwin acted innapropriately - but on a mild scale compared to a genuine assault. He has publicly apologized on TV which is more than the average pub goer ever has to do for their behaviour.

The Advertiser blowing this up out of all proportion and linking a series of unrelated or irrelevant incidents to magnify the whole issue.

Personally, the pathetic offerings by the Advertiser today reflect the pompous, self-righteous attitude shown by them on 5AA yesterday.

Every Corporation has a Mission Statement. The Advertiser's should be "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story". :rolleyes:
 
Dont know why people are getting all sh\tty at the Advertiser. That Schmaal man sounds like a nice guy.

"After a call from the public alerting The Advertiser to unruly behaviour by some of the players, Schmaal went to the hotel about 9.35am but did not enter and remained on the public footpath at all times. "

What a good bloke.
 
Isnt Rebecca Devlin the "Adelaide Confidential" reporter? Not the classiest section of a very average paper. The Advertiser really sent the big gun reporters after this story.
 
swanfan said:
Sad to say but that is why I buy the Herald Sun at least Victorians do something right. They write unbiased news articles which report on the issues not give personal opinions.
Not up to date on the whole AFL right's saga?:mad:

The Herald Sun is a rag that is nothing more than the mouthpiece of the AFL and a Murdoch tabloid just like the Tiser.

Haven't seen any journalism from Sheehan on the new TV rights deal that is informative as Wilson's articles, only puff pieces on Denis and Varcoe.
 
macca23 said:
Every Corporation has a Mission Statement. The Advertiser's should be "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story". :rolleyes:

Macca23 very good read and very true.

The Advertiser Vision statement should also read something like this “ At every opportunity we will manufacture story’s to incriminate the Adelaide Football Club
 
This whole thing is a disgrace.

1. Why have the Advertiser gone all out on this against Goodwin and the crows when normally it is all goody goody stories on them(no pun intended)? Only because it was their photographer involved.

2. That photographer should have minded his own business. I know they are people with a public profile but anyone with any decency would know not to take photos of players when they are away from football.

3. After the incident, the fact that they sent down a reporter is pathetic.

4. The fact that someone in the general public would feel compelled to call the Advertiser to alert them of players drinking at a hotel - to that person, GET A LIFE!

5. The parking inspector said he wouldn't press charges. For what????? Having liquid thrown on him. The fact that you can press charges for something like this shows how stuffed up our world is.
 
The photos are a non event. I think thats the whole point. If the photo on the front cover is what set Goodwin off....then its a complete over reaction on his part too. Goodwins gone mental over a picture with his hands in his pockets and the Advertiser have gone overboard with the whole 4 page spread.

SpringChoke - You seem to be forgetting an Adelaide Crows listed player at the time was alledgedly involved in said alledged incident a few years ago.
 
Wallace said:
Isnt Rebecca Devlin the "Adelaide Confidential" reporter? Not the classiest section of a very average paper. The Advertiser really sent the big gun reporters after this story.

I am ashamed to say she is an Essendon supporter. She was mc at a function earlier this year and had no idea at all, it was cringeworthy the ill-informed comments and questions she asked guys such as Sheedy and Hird and the fact she is meant to be a supporter of that team made it even more embarassing.
 
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