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Cam Green may have opened and powerhit runs opening but its a different kettle of fish scoring runs at the death in pressure situation.
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its not good enough chasing 11 off the last over and you chew up 2 dot balls.
Its an area Cam Green needs to work on. I think playing test match cricket may affect his ability to potentially power hit at the back end. And I dont ever recall Greeny powerhitting at the back end in the Big Bash scene
I think if your Mumbai you potentially bite the bullet and look to put Green in the Top 4 somewhere.
Its an area Cam Green needs to work on. I think playing test match cricket may affect his ability to potentially power hit at the back end. And I dont ever recall Greeny powerhitting at the back end in the Big Bash scene
I think if your Mumbai you potentially bite the bullet and look to put Green in the Top 4 somewhere.
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When your a $3.15 million dollar man, your going to get head hunted. Blind Freddy can see he is not worth that much.
The critics are coming out in their droves:
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Some of those melts make Bigfooty look like daycare. Stop playing cricket, retire and never play IPL, ****ing lol.
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Had he been scoring at a good rate though?
His innings before he got dropped down the order were:
6 (4) - out early obviously but fine.
23 (18) - Going at 7.6 an over when they needed 10.70 an over.
44 (26) - Going at 10.15 an over when they needed 10.60 an over.
33 (26) - Going at 7.61 an over when they needed 10.35 an over.
67 (43) - Going at 9.34 an over when they needed 10.70 an over.
They moved Suryakumar Yadav to 3 instead of Green and he's gone 83 (35), 103* (49), 7 (9). Clearly the right move.
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Love Dorff but Hazlewood did take 20 wkts @ 18.85 and an economy rate of 8.11 last season.
To compare Benrendorff has 14 wkts @ 21.57 and an economy rate of 9.44 this season.
Yeah that's fine for me can have greenie at 4 david at 5 even open. I think the real issue with Mumbai has been the captain Sharma who has done nothing all tournament. 257 runs at 19 strike rate of 131 one fifty
Fair enough but wasn't really dig at haze.
Just pointing out the huge pay disparity.
Or what it does show, is that if you're going to pay someone 3 million plus a year, you should be batting them higher than 7 I would've though.
How can Vinod be batting before him?
Not sure how you can equate someone who has faced 6 balls to "lose the game", TBH.
Jordan went at 12.50 an over for a start.
Yep he was over paid.
That's not his fault.
When you say "Critics", do you mean ****wits on social media?
Not sure posting those comments bring anything to the forum TBH.
I know you're not a big fan of Green, but those figures aren't that bad.
If they don't think Green should be batting in the top 6, it seems a dumb choice to buy him.
If you're going to pay 3 million for a player and bat him at 7, you get what you deserve IMO.
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I like Green. I literally just ordered a shirt with his head on the front of it.
This forum just has a hell of a lot of posters who think teams should be built to most benefit him personally rather than to win games.
They're not bad scores by any means but I also wouldn't describe them as a "good rate" relative to what the team required. He was dropped down the order as a result and I don't think he really can argue that he'd done enough to cement his spot at the top.
It's also not his fault they paid him an outrageous amount of money to play a role he doesn't have a lot of experience playing. Realistically they've bought him so that he'll be a future franchise player which he'll more than likely become. Fast bowling all-rounders with Greens batting ability don't turn up very often.
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I think with this lineup , you can play 1 of Rohit Sharma or Cam Green but not both.
You pick Rohit due to his batting -captaincy
Or Cam Due to his bowling- batting
They are too similar sort of players with the bat. They need a few balls to settle in and dare I say it batting in the Powerplay in India can at times be a tad easier with the field up.
I reckon Brevis and Stubbs are more explosive hitters with the bat.
Will cut Cam some slack but as far as I see it , he shouldn’t be a first choice in an Australian XI T20 form unless he can replicate that sort of form in the BBL.
And the lesson I’ve learnt last night is by jeez Indian fans can quickly turn against you if you have poor performances . Some of those comments , make like the AFL look like day care. LOL
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What this tournament has confrimed for me is Australia has a pretty solid 3,4,5,6 right now.
You would probably play: M Marsh, Stoinis, Maxwell, Tim David
Warner will open and think the selectors will probably go with some younger blood in Philippe or Josh INglis as keeper. My lean would be more towards Josh Inglis, I think Philippe had a poor campaign last year in the BBL. And in terms of batting, Inglis is more consistent and has better shot selections and temperatement. Wades time has passed now especially at his age.
Mitch Marsh has had a disaster IPL 2023 but he does have runs on the board in the national setup so should keep his spot.
Cam Green could get into the team but I would imagine it would have to be as opener, which hedid well in his brief stint in the T20s this year. It was a role given to him from nowhere due to one of the openers (think Finch or Warner wasnt fit). I think Australian fans anyway will want to see him do that in one of the T20 leagues before giving him it on a national stage. Short has deserved it based on BBL form from last year. It seems a bit ironic that in the past Australia had problems with finding middle hitters, and had a plentiful of good openers . Now its the other way around I feel, with Finch leaving, there is vacancy to find good openers. Warner keeps his spot purely based on reputation.
Ive said this throughout the tournament : Dorff, Ellis, Zampa and Hazlewood round out the bowling attack.
So my best Australian XI is:
Warner
Short
M Marsh
Stoinis
Maxwell
Tim David
Josh Inglis
Ellis
Dorff
Zampa
Hazlewood
And if there is opportunity ill be interested if national players come back to play BBL this summer. Id like to see Green to play for the Perth Scorchers, to give Cam Green an opportunity and prove himself to open for Australia- promote him in opener to see if he can do well. The Point I want to see is , him doing it in the BBL. In the past when he did play for the Scorchers, I remember him coming in sort of in the middle order where he would get limited balls to face.
BBL2023-24 will be important to confirm I think the opener roles for the T20 World Cup in 2024. At the moment, there doesnt seem to be too many that stand out.
You would probably play: M Marsh, Stoinis, Maxwell, Tim David
Warner will open and think the selectors will probably go with some younger blood in Philippe or Josh INglis as keeper. My lean would be more towards Josh Inglis, I think Philippe had a poor campaign last year in the BBL. And in terms of batting, Inglis is more consistent and has better shot selections and temperatement. Wades time has passed now especially at his age.
Mitch Marsh has had a disaster IPL 2023 but he does have runs on the board in the national setup so should keep his spot.
Cam Green could get into the team but I would imagine it would have to be as opener, which hedid well in his brief stint in the T20s this year. It was a role given to him from nowhere due to one of the openers (think Finch or Warner wasnt fit). I think Australian fans anyway will want to see him do that in one of the T20 leagues before giving him it on a national stage. Short has deserved it based on BBL form from last year. It seems a bit ironic that in the past Australia had problems with finding middle hitters, and had a plentiful of good openers . Now its the other way around I feel, with Finch leaving, there is vacancy to find good openers. Warner keeps his spot purely based on reputation.
Ive said this throughout the tournament : Dorff, Ellis, Zampa and Hazlewood round out the bowling attack.
So my best Australian XI is:
Warner
Short
M Marsh
Stoinis
Maxwell
Tim David
Josh Inglis
Ellis
Dorff
Zampa
Hazlewood
And if there is opportunity ill be interested if national players come back to play BBL this summer. Id like to see Green to play for the Perth Scorchers, to give Cam Green an opportunity and prove himself to open for Australia- promote him in opener to see if he can do well. The Point I want to see is , him doing it in the BBL. In the past when he did play for the Scorchers, I remember him coming in sort of in the middle order where he would get limited balls to face.
BBL2023-24 will be important to confirm I think the opener roles for the T20 World Cup in 2024. At the moment, there doesnt seem to be too many that stand out.
In regards to Greenie NYRB the team you have picked above...greenie has one thing over them all except for Hazlewood and Warner is that they are all one format players and not multi format such as Greenie...and with warners career coming to the end and Hazelwood playing little test cricket Greenie needs to be managed.
So yeah he is not going to first choice in an Aussie t20 XI on occasions and you want your specialist t20 players to be in your first 11 T20 team. Also we have seen with the best allrounder of the modern age Stokes cannot play all formats..again Greenie needs to be managed.
But that does not say that Greenie is not capable of playing quality t20 which I think he has shown this early in his career. Do remember that Greenie has played very little Big Bash and his learning opportunities for T20 has come on the international stage. You mentioned his record for the Scorchers and yeah its poor and I would love him playing and succeeding for the scorchers but not at the expense of his Aussie International cricket
Corbs mentioned earlier in the thread that his scoring rate could be better and yeah he is correct but for me at this stage I am happy with greenies first foray into the IPL and very happy with the learning opportunities presented to him. He has been shifted from 3 to six in the batting orders and bowled in the power play opened the bowling and bowled at the death....it's fantastic for his development and game going forward.
Overall I am happy with where he is at this IPL and my biggest concern atm is that he does not get injured in the closing games and finals.
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Im thinking the motivation for him doing well , is definitely the money. Its a factor anyway.
Sometimes, when your paid less, your motivation is not there. Refer to the games in last years BBL, where he took time off to be in Perth. (or he missed a few games due to being managed).
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Game 64
Delhi Capitals (Playing XI): David Warner(c), Prithvi Shaw, Philip Salt(w), Rilee Rossouw, Axar Patel, Aman Hakim Khan, Yash Dhull, Kuldeep Yadav, Anrich Nortje, Ishant Sharma, Khaleel Ahmed
Punjab Kings (Playing XI): Shikhar Dhawan(c), Atharva Taide, Liam Livingstone, Jitesh Sharma(w), Sam Curran, Shahrukh Khan, Harpreet Brar, Rahul Chahar, Kagiso Rabada, Nathan Ellis, Arshdeep Singh
DC Impact Subs: Mukesh Kumar, Abishek Porel, Ripal Patel, Praveen Dubey, Sarfaraz Khan
PBKS Impact Subs: Prabhsimran Singh, Sikandar Raza, Matthew Short, Rishi Dhawan, Mohit Rathee
Delhi batting first. Mitch Marsh dropped.
Delhi Capitals (Playing XI): David Warner(c), Prithvi Shaw, Philip Salt(w), Rilee Rossouw, Axar Patel, Aman Hakim Khan, Yash Dhull, Kuldeep Yadav, Anrich Nortje, Ishant Sharma, Khaleel Ahmed
Punjab Kings (Playing XI): Shikhar Dhawan(c), Atharva Taide, Liam Livingstone, Jitesh Sharma(w), Sam Curran, Shahrukh Khan, Harpreet Brar, Rahul Chahar, Kagiso Rabada, Nathan Ellis, Arshdeep Singh
DC Impact Subs: Mukesh Kumar, Abishek Porel, Ripal Patel, Praveen Dubey, Sarfaraz Khan
PBKS Impact Subs: Prabhsimran Singh, Sikandar Raza, Matthew Short, Rishi Dhawan, Mohit Rathee
Delhi batting first. Mitch Marsh dropped.
Dropped or injured?
Why were Warner and Ishant Sharma so pissed off about the waist-high no-ball call? They got to review it
Have you lost interest?
