https://omny.fm/shows/breakfast-with-steve-and-basil/kim-hagdorn-18-march-2019
Here’s my piece from this morning so you can all read between lines with regards to what I said.
All the best, Haggers.
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https://omny.fm/shows/breakfast-with-steve-and-basil/kim-hagdorn-18-march-2019
Here’s my piece from this morning so you can all read between lines with regards to what I said.
All the best, Haggers.
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Noticed Fyfie had a bandaid on his elbow in the footage shown from Sunday's Optus training session.
Hackdorn and injuries. Thankfully we didn’t consult him during trade period, was completely against getting Hogan with his ‘season ending catastrophe injury’. The guy’s a dud, stop giving him screen time.
I’d rather if it was Julian De Stoop, who actually just does his job and reports facts.
Rather then being biased and one eyed on channel 7. Like Fat Barra.
I’d rather if it was Julian De Stoop, who actually just does his job and reports facts.
Rather then being biased and one eyed on channel 7. Like Fat Barra.
Quick question, do you have a background in the medical/fitness area? Cause it appears there is lack of understanding of acute injury management in sports. Not having a go at you, but there's a lot of inaccuracies in general floating around this thread.
Blakely's shoulder keeps being brought up on this board - it really just shows people lack understanding and knowledge in acute injury management of sporting injuries. If a shoulder is dislocated and relocated but is still functional, and the athlete wants to, there is no reason to stop them from returning to the field. Tape isn't gonna stop a shoulder from going, despite what people think, and a second dislocation wouldn't have changed any management at all. If anything it's easier to deal with a second/third dislocation than an initial.
I agree with the calls on Hill given the context of the game, but his injury was an odd one, but that's a footballing decision that wouldn't be in the hands of the S/C/fitness staff/Drs. He obviously must of passed orthopaedic tests to return to the field, and given that the injury was bone bruising from memory, that would be expected. Again if he is still functioning and wants to return to the field there would be no reason to stop him. However given the context of the game, I also do find this call strange.
Now I'm not saying our S/C staff are perfect but they aren't that bad. And the criticism they receive is often hard to read due to some of the uninformed opinions floating around on here.
when he went down - was right in front of me, you would have given it 1.01 it was an ACL. He was on the ground screaming in pain and it looked like it was going to be a stretcher. We were 10 goals up absolute madness to have him back on the ground. I just don't understand the thought process, why you would let someone back onto the field after he went down like that. It wasn't like he twisted it, felt a bit bad.
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One of the problems Lyon has is when you spend your time making pithy remarks to sound smart they can come back to bite you. "We are an outcomes based industry" springs to mind. Does it really matter if you think the methods of the medical and fitness staff are world's best, when the outcomes they're producing aren't.
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Given the nature of the activity I don't think you can boil down the instances to a level playing field with any sort of volume that doesn't heavily compromise your data, there might only be a handful of 180-185cm + 85-90kg + non-impact ACL injuries for example, each one would alter the outcome too much.
It's also extremely difficult to measure the injuries you've avoided.
I know this is very abstract but it's because I saw this recently. With injury we are like the soldiers at Dunkirk yelling at the air force for not protecting them from attack, we don't see the hundreds who were stopped from getting to them.
Langdon the same. Ross mentioned in the presser that he was very distressed that he had to go back on. He missed 2 or 3 weeks from memory.
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Good points, but I am still unconvinced that it matters if you have the best methods money can buy if your outcomes are mediocre. The return on investment equation is not favourable for us in terms of what we are supposedly pouring into the fitness department.
Were you there? I never saw anyone yelling at the RAF, they were too busy throwing themselves into the air in many small pieces!
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Jesse smashing cans in the name of anxiety!
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So four of our key forwards are out before the season even starts , Christ.
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Reminds me of this
It’s quite obvious, glaringly obvious that Weber isn’t what we think he is. Sure finals footy here and there. But his fitness and injury management isn’t world class.
Port went and took a step back, entinced Dean Burgess and tooka massive step forward in their match conditioning. Meanwhile, Freo are somehow convinced Weber is the man. He came from a Rugby background. Not ideal. From a sports science point of view, he ain’t that much better then bachelor the way he goes about it. Studying PhD, meh, shows you can do it individual athletes. However a squad of 30? Him and his team’s time is up. What a failure of a pre season.
Port went and took a step back, entinced Dean Burgess and tooka massive step forward in their match conditioning. Meanwhile, Freo are somehow convinced Weber is the man. He came from a Rugby background. Not ideal. From a sports science point of view, he ain’t that much better then bachelor the way he goes about it. Studying PhD, meh, shows you can do it individual athletes. However a squad of 30? Him and his team’s time is up. What a failure of a pre season.
