Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[Cap]

HaC's got plenty of influence Politically whether you want to believe it or not and it's all aimed at the LNP because of his voluminous investments $$$$$$$'s in renewables, virtually owns the Teals via his bankrolling of them in Liberal seats. Not one seat he's taken aim at is held

Yep he's exactly the same as Musk

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

 

[adelaidecrows]

Im a tad bit annoyed. But i guess MAGA will be cheering this one.

It appears only now the media are beginning to do the maths over Trumps age and the statistics relating to age related illness. Like NOW! not before the election but now.

Trump an unhealthy fat old man with clear speech deterioration leading up tot he election and you telling me not a single bastard in the media thought to themselves, this could be an issue. Especially with the signs Biden displayed towards the end of his term, and pound for pound, Biden was healthy in the last election than Trump is now.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The technology billionaires don't want to protect us from misinformation... as allows them to drive their own agendas.

We have seen what happens anytine a government stands up to them...

Meta Ends Fact-Checking, Prompting Fears of Misinformation

Mark Zuckerberg announced that Facebook will move to a Community Notes system as the company prepares for Donald Trump's presidency.

time.com

I see Trump is going to spend billions to build massive AI centres in the US for his tech mates to gather data.
This cannot end well.
Also notice Trump intimating he could take Canada and Greenland by force if need be, just the same way he takes women by force. What a wonderful role model for MAGA children.
And of course he has global aspirations looking eerily like the NWO that the MAGA conspiracy theorists were terrified about and blamed the left for..
Will be amusing to watch them try to find ways to spin it as a positive now.

Trump is turning the world to absolute shit.
MAGA have been used.

Price of eggs? Not a word about it since the election.
Deport immigrants? no we need immigrants now I have been elected.
Border wall? No let’s open the border with Canada and re name the Gulf of Mexico instead.

Those things he campaigned on, the outrage he created, to get MAGA to vote him in again have fallen by the wayside now and his actual plans are being revealed.

He and Musk and his other Oligarchs will destroy the poor and the working class.

Good luck America.. and the world.
He’s not your saviour, he’s your curse. This is on you.

 

[Mutineer]

Im a tad bit annoyed. But i guess MAGA will be cheering this one.

It appears only now the media are beginning to do the maths over Trumps age and the statistics relating to age related illness. Like NOW! not before the election but now.

Trump an unhealthy fat old man with clear speech deterioration leading up tot he election and you telling me not a single bastard in the media thought to themselves, this could be an issue. Especially with the signs Biden displayed towards the end of his term, and pound for pound, Biden was healthy in the last election than Trump is now.

LOL

Biden was a stumbling, bumbling corpse from the get go...Don't let your blind hatred of Trump totally effect your eyesight,

 

[arrowman]

Stricter media laws and maybe some accountability for politicians might help?

we vote them in to act on our behalf... & get the ability to vote then out. So yes, they should be putting in the right governance.

I don't think billionaires, or politicians, or anyone else should be controlling what people say.

 

[arrowman]

Truly bizarre bizarre that the right keep insisting if this facade of protecting women children while supporting a rapist and paedophile.

The fact that you think criticism of trans ideology is the exclusive preserve of "the right" shows how little you know about the debate.

 

[arrowman]

like you don't really care about women's sport or women's safety, Musk really doesn't care about the Children.

Well, do you care? Do you, for example, think that men who say they are women should be housed in women’s prisons?

 

[arrowman]

When it isn’t backed up by facts.

Misinformation - continuing to say the steal of the 2020 election when there has been zero evidence and what 60 odd court cases where Trump and his goons have lost every single one of them.

That's an example, perhaps, but it doesn't answer the question "who decides?".

 

[OneGreatClub]

I fear it is going to be all but impossible to purge the ignorance, disinformation and pure hatred that Trump and his party spew. There is not an ounce of compassion or morality any more and they are backed by Musk et al who spread their unrelenting vile lies and talking points as facts and MAGA swallow the cool aid hook line and sinker changing their views like the wind depending on how Trump tells them to think. I don’t believe in the Bible but if it were actually true then the antichrist is surely he or Musk.

 

[Mutineer]

I fear it is going to be all but impossible to purge the ignorance, disinformation and pure hatred that Trump and his party spew. There is not an ounce of compassion or morality any more and they are backed by Musk et al who spread their unrelenting vile lies and talking points as facts and MAGA swallow the cool aid hook line and sinker changing their views like the wind depending on how Trump tells them to think. I don’t believe in the Bible but if it were actually true then the antichrist is surely he or Musk.

And both a looooong way behind George Soros if there's an antichrist.

 

[119others]

LOL

Biden was a stumbling, bumbling corpse from the get go...Don't let your blind hatred of Trump totally effect your eyesight,

The same 'corpse' that smashed the orange turd in the 2020 debate? what does that then say for the turds intellect, or lack thereof?

 

[119others]

I see Trump is going to spend billions to build massive AI centres in the US for his tech mates to gather data.
This cannot end well.
Also notice Trump intimating he could take Canada and Greenland by force if need be, just the same way he takes women by force. What a wonderful role model for MAGA children.
And of course he has global aspirations looking eerily like the NWO that the MAGA conspiracy theorists were terrified about and blamed the left for..
Will be amusing to watch them try to find ways to spin it as a positive now.

Trump is turning the world to absolute shit.
MAGA have been used.

Price of eggs? Not a word about it since the election.
Deport immigrants? no we need immigrants now I have been elected.
Border wall? No let’s open the border with Canada and re name the Gulf of Mexico instead.

Those things he campaigned on, the outrage he created, to get MAGA to vote him in again have fallen by the wayside now and his actual plans are being revealed.

He and Musk and his other Oligarchs will destroy the poor and the working class.

Good luck America.. and the world.
He’s not your saviour, he’s your curse. This is on you.

All fair points. Dont forget taking Panama also by force.

Just a complete embarrassment. The thing is once the large swathe of uneducated stupid people that voted for him realise what hes done I am genuinely concerned what may happen.

Already voted the WORST President in history I can actually see this next term being an even lower point in US history.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I don't think billionaires, or politicians, or anyone else should be controlling what people say.

Including hate speech where people incite violence against others?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Trump just can't help creating conflict.

Given the past year or so, we need more calm leaders not trying to take over others...

'Incomprehension': EU leaders warn Trump against military action in Greenland

The German chancellor says the incoming US leader needs to respect fundamental principles of international law after Trump said the US "needs Greenland".

www.abc.net.au

 

[Cap]

Talking about misinformation, Hating George Soros by RWNJs and their anti Semitic conspiracy theories/tropes is right up there

 

[Cap]

Trump just can't help creating conflict.

Given the past year or so, we need more calm leaders not trying to take over others...

'Incomprehension': EU leaders warn Trump against military action in Greenland

The German chancellor says the incoming US leader needs to respect fundamental principles of international law after Trump said the US "needs Greenland".

www.abc.net.au

If you haven't got onto leopard eating face sub Reddit, you are missing out on a few laughs

The sane washing of Trump appears to be cracking in many conservative places

 

[arrowman]

Including hate speech where people incite violence against others?

No problem with policing genuine incitement to violence. The problem is the definition of "hate speech".

 

[Eagleboy2011]

All fair points. Dont forget taking Panama also by force.

Just a complete embarrassment. The thing is once the large swathe of uneducated stupid people that voted for him realise what hes done I am genuinely concerned what may happen.

Already voted the WORST President in history I can actually see this next term being an even lower point in US history.

Have you been hacked by Adelaidecrows. 0% correct

You might want to show receipts when there was a vote on the worst president in History.

USA presidential elections
2016 DJT 63m votes
2020 DJT 74 m votes
2024 DJT 78m votes

I can see why he is worst.

meanwhile


Genocide Joe is looking good

According to a poll conducted by the Gallup Survey, Biden hasn’t received glowing recommendations from the general public. 37% of the people who took the survey thought of him as “below average.

MSN

How Popular Is Joe Biden?

Latest polls on President Joe Biden’s approval ratings

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

 

[OneGreatClub]

If you haven't got onto leopard eating face sub Reddit, you are missing out on a few laughs

The sane washing of Trump appears to be cracking in many conservative places

Haha just checked it out

 

[119others]

Have you been hacked by Adelaidecrows. 0% correct

You might want to show receipts when there was a vote on the worst president in History.

USA presidential elections
2016 DJT 63m votes
2020 DJT 74 m votes
2024 DJT 78m votes

I can see why he is worst.

meanwhile


Genocide Joe is looking good

According to a poll conducted by the Gallup Survey, Biden hasn’t received glowing recommendations from the general public. 37% of the people who took the survey thought of him as “below average.

MSN

How Popular Is Joe Biden?

Latest polls on President Joe Biden’s approval ratings

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

haha, so Trump and his supporters now deciding to believe in polling figures when it suits. Just too good. Does this mean you agree Trump is full of shit with his pathetic conspiracy that the 2020 election was stolen? I look forward to your reply

ps just try googling 'Worst President in USA history'. The first few articles that come up.

Even Republican voters thought he was a dud last time.


Abe Lincoln is widely viewed as the best, and I don’t dispute that. But worst isn’t discussed as much, and there was perhaps no consensus pick, until, perhaps recently.

Before Donald Trump, there were many contenders. But then came Trump, who has lowered the bar for presidential worstness again and again, and may have done so again while I was typing this paragraph.

Comparing the presidents: Who was the worst? - MinnPost

In a smart essay for The Atlantic, the great James Fallows drifted into a Richard Nixon comparison, and then turned to Donald Trump.

www.minnpost.com

Donald Trump has consistently polled among the bottom four and twice in last place due to breaking longstanding norms such as the peaceful transition of power, an American precedent not broken since Washington first set it. The scandal-ridden presidency of Warren G. Harding also frequently lands in the bottom four.

2018–present
A second Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey was sent to members of the Presidents and Executive Politics section of the APSA in 2018, ranked Donald Trump for the first time, putting him in last position.[26] In the 2024 edition, Trump scored 10.92 out of 100, easily the worst, while self-identified Republican historians rated Trump in the bottom five.[27]

45/47 Donald Trump Republican 45[e] 43 41 42 44[e] – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
46[g] Joe Biden Democratic 14 19 – – – –

table - Biden rated top 20. Trump bottom 10% of all Presidents by multiple surveys

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slideshows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=9

3. Donald Trump

Trump is the only living president among the 10 worst presidents, the only president to be impeached twice and the only president to be convicted of a felony.


Since 2000, C-SPAN has conducted a survey of historians on presidential leadership each time there has been a change in administrations. For each survey, we bring in a cross-section of presidential historians and ask them to rank the country's former chief executives



Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest The survey serves as an initial take on a president's term soon after they have left office and shows how the impact of a presidency has changed over time. A new survey, C-SPAN's fifth, will be released in 2025 and will include President Biden for the first time

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war

www.theguardian.com

Trump - bottom 4

C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021

www.c-span.org

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

 

[119others]

haha, so Trump and his supporters now deciding to believe in polling figures when it suits. Just too good. Does this mean you agree Trump is full of shit with his pathetic conspiracy that the 2020 election was stolen? I look forward to your reply

ps just try googling 'Worst President in USA history'. The first few articles that come up.

Even Republican voters thought he was a dud last time.


Abe Lincoln is widely viewed as the best, and I don’t dispute that. But worst isn’t discussed as much, and there was perhaps no consensus pick, until, perhaps recently.

Before Donald Trump, there were many contenders. But then came Trump, who has lowered the bar for presidential worstness again and again, and may have done so again while I was typing this paragraph.

Comparing the presidents: Who was the worst? - MinnPost

In a smart essay for The Atlantic, the great James Fallows drifted into a Richard Nixon comparison, and then turned to Donald Trump.

www.minnpost.com

Donald Trump has consistently polled among the bottom four and twice in last place due to breaking longstanding norms such as the peaceful transition of power, an American precedent not broken since Washington first set it. The scandal-ridden presidency of Warren G. Harding also frequently lands in the bottom four.

2018–present
A second Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey was sent to members of the Presidents and Executive Politics section of the APSA in 2018, ranked Donald Trump for the first time, putting him in last position.[26] In the 2024 edition, Trump scored 10.92 out of 100, easily the worst, while self-identified Republican historians rated Trump in the bottom five.[27]

45/47 Donald Trump Republican 45[e] 43 41 42 44[e] – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
46[g] Joe Biden Democratic 14 19 – – – –

table - Biden rated top 20. Trump bottom 10% of all Presidents by multiple surveys

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slideshows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=9

3. Donald Trump

Trump is the only living president among the 10 worst presidents, the only president to be impeached twice and the only president to be convicted of a felony.


Since 2000, C-SPAN has conducted a survey of historians on presidential leadership each time there has been a change in administrations. For each survey, we bring in a cross-section of presidential historians and ask them to rank the country's former chief executives



Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest The survey serves as an initial take on a president's term soon after they have left office and shows how the impact of a presidency has changed over time. A new survey, C-SPAN's fifth, will be released in 2025 and will include President Biden for the first time

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war

www.theguardian.com

Trump - bottom 4

C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021

www.c-span.org

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

Eagleboy2011 cmon EB, I believe in you. Believe that you CAN do the manly thing here and answer this one very simple question without running away with the “don’t answer and laugh emoji response”. To make it very simple whilst trying to ensure you do not get confused here is the question again:

Does this mean you agree Trump is full of shit with his pathetic conspiracy that the 2020 election was stolen? I look forward to your reply

Cmon EB, you can do it mate.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

haha, so Trump and his supporters now deciding to believe in polling figures when it suits. Just too good. Does this mean you agree Trump is full of shit with his pathetic conspiracy that the 2020 election was stolen? I look forward to your reply

ps just try googling 'Worst President in USA history'. The first few articles that come up.

Even Republican voters thought he was a dud last time.


Abe Lincoln is widely viewed as the best, and I don’t dispute that. But worst isn’t discussed as much, and there was perhaps no consensus pick, until, perhaps recently.

Before Donald Trump, there were many contenders. But then came Trump, who has lowered the bar for presidential worstness again and again, and may have done so again while I was typing this paragraph.

Comparing the presidents: Who was the worst? - MinnPost

In a smart essay for The Atlantic, the great James Fallows drifted into a Richard Nixon comparison, and then turned to Donald Trump.

www.minnpost.com

Donald Trump has consistently polled among the bottom four and twice in last place due to breaking longstanding norms such as the peaceful transition of power, an American precedent not broken since Washington first set it. The scandal-ridden presidency of Warren G. Harding also frequently lands in the bottom four.

2018–present
A second Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey was sent to members of the Presidents and Executive Politics section of the APSA in 2018, ranked Donald Trump for the first time, putting him in last position.[26] In the 2024 edition, Trump scored 10.92 out of 100, easily the worst, while self-identified Republican historians rated Trump in the bottom five.[27]

45/47 Donald Trump Republican 45[e] 43 41 42 44[e] – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
46[g] Joe Biden Democratic 14 19 – – – –

table - Biden rated top 20. Trump bottom 10% of all Presidents by multiple surveys

Historical rankings of presidents of the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slideshows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=9

3. Donald Trump

Trump is the only living president among the 10 worst presidents, the only president to be impeached twice and the only president to be convicted of a felony.


Since 2000, C-SPAN has conducted a survey of historians on presidential leadership each time there has been a change in administrations. For each survey, we bring in a cross-section of presidential historians and ask them to rank the country's former chief executives



Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest The survey serves as an initial take on a president's term soon after they have left office and shows how the impact of a presidency has changed over time. A new survey, C-SPAN's fifth, will be released in 2025 and will include President Biden for the first time

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

Survey of 154 scholars places 45th president behind even ‘historically calamitous chief executives’ linked to civil war

www.theguardian.com

Trump - bottom 4

C-SPAN Survey on Presidents 2021

www.c-span.org

Trump ranked as worst US president in history, with Biden 14th greatest

How can I dispute Evidence like that. How can I be so wrong. The Guardia, Wikipedia, Minneapolis Post, USA news. All truly independent and high conservative readership

Obviously in the mind of the unhinged the one vote that should count is overridden by some commie publication and a few hundred random opinions.



Meanwhile

Joe Biden is one of "worst" presidents in history, 1 in 5 Democrats says

A July poll found that Republicans overwhelmingly saw Biden as among the worst presidents, but independents were split.

www.newsweek.com

 

[119others]

How can I dispute Evidence like that. How can I be so wrong. The Guardia, Wikipedia, Minneapolis Post, USA news. All truly independent and high conservative readership

Obviously in the mind of the unhinged the one vote that should count is overridden by some commie publication and a few hundred random opinions.



Meanwhile

Joe Biden is one of "worst" presidents in history, 1 in 5 Democrats says

A July poll found that Republicans overwhelmingly saw Biden as among the worst presidents, but independents were split.

www.newsweek.com

Erm, not sure if you read or comprehended the details but the articles are quoting historians published findings. They collectively voted Trump a dud. Republican voters agreed. Surely this isn’t difficult?

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Eagleboy2011 cmon EB, I believe in you. Believe that you CAN do the manly thing here and answer this one very simple question without running away with the “don’t answer and laugh emoji response”. To make it very simple whilst trying to ensure you do not get confused here is the question again:

Does this mean you agree Trump is full of shit with his pathetic conspiracy that the 2020 election was stolen? I look forward to your reply

Cmon EB, you can do it mate.

74m voters liked DJT in 2020.
Yes, I believe 2020 was stolen. Who on gods earth would have voted for a vegetable that was Joe Biden who campaigned from his basement and subsequently destroyed the country and is still doing it on the way out?