Is Buckley A Good Coach?

[jathanas]

The senior coach is an important club figure and a legitimate topic of discussion. It's fair to do so and everyone has a right to express their view.

The mod team observed that the thread was dominated by a few protagonists and their points were repeated i.e. 8 years of regression vs marked improvement in 17,18 etc Pretty much everyone with a strong opinion has already expressed it here.

What further degraded discussion was the simplistic "sack FIGJAM" or "he's a legend" type posts.

This thread will remain open. If your view has slightly shifted or you have new thoughts please share. In an effort to encourage quality discussion repetitive statements and circular arguments will from now on be deleted as will silly posts suggesting that we sack a coach on match-day.

FYI Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5

 

[Doc1763]

you have zero credibility on this issue - don’t waste my time.

Why does he have zero credibility?
Last year's semi final result is much more relevant than a two year old grand final result.

 

[Doc1763]

when have you known Buckley to be a quitter- it’s not in his DNA

No, but he's a loser though - at team level.
Lots and lots of individual awards.....

 

[jmac70]

Because he senses he is a dead man walking? Out of dignity.

He knows there is every chance this is his last year. I doubt that will bother him. We need him to continue and to help bring on the next batch of young players.

 

[jmac70]

No, but he's a loser though - at team level.
Lots and lots of individual awards.....

He has given all he has to our club. To call him a loser is weak.

 

[Doc1763]

He knows there is every chance this is his last year. I doubt that will bother him. We need him to continue and to help bring on the next batch of young players.

Yeah, he's been great at that over the journey.

 

[Doc1763]

He has given all he has to our club. To call him a loser is weak.

We're forever grateful

 

[jmac70]

Yeah, he's been great at that over the journey.

How does having Harvey or Sanderson as caretaker help the club?

 

[jmac70]

We're forever grateful

You’re just so disrespectful. 26 years of service and you don’t rate that.

 

[Doc1763]

You’re just so disrespectful. 26 years of service and you don’t rate that.

I rate his playing career. Hi coaching career has been disastrous

 

[Civilest]

I think it’s crazy to say he can’t coach. He is a reasonable coach with strengths and weaknesses. He’s had his chance and now we move on.

 

[Collingwood2022]

A couple of observations here:

(i) I agree with JMac here - I don't think Buckley really worries about what the supporters think whether they be pro Buckley or not. And I don't think he ever has and why should he? These hysterical arguments that he can or can't coach are on the supporters only. I doubt he loses any sleep over it and nor should he,
(ii) The ongoing "can coach" argument based on a lost GF followed by lost PF and then finals is selective and flawed. Can he coach? F---ked if I know however I would suggest that any deliberation/conclusion should be based on a larger body of evidence being his entire coaching tenure. For me that gives him a 4-5/10. Each to their own of course.

 

[Matrix10]

I wouldn't be surprised if he genuinely resigns rather than it being a forced one. After an off season from hell, I don't think he's as enamoured with the job as he once was.

Looks that way, his demeanor and body language, is not that of the confident, positive Buckley we have come to know, looks like a defeated man hiding under the resilient persona he has shown over both his playing and coaching career

 

[Collingwood2022]

You’re just so disrespectful. 26 years of service and you don’t rate that.

Mate I would suggest that Buckley doesn't need you to stand up for him in this regard, no matter how well intentioned. Respectful? Disrespectful? That's not for you to judge of others. If you respect him which you clearly do, then so be it and leave it at that. Suggest you don't judge others based on your own personal beliefs/views. It's not healthy.

 

[Matrix10]

when have you known Buckley to be a quitter- it’s not in his DNA

He quit Brisvegas, they went on to threepeat

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

when have you known Buckley to be a quitter- it’s not in his DNA

I can't see him leaving before the season is finished. I was just providing a possible reason for resigning early.

 

[1980GFVideo]

I thought Ed was good for you (while he was good for you) when he was in the 'move with the times' mode.

Move from Victoria Park has paid massive dividends as was his first aggressive coaching head hunting of Mick from WC.

It is ironic in someways that he went back to the antiquated and less successful method of coach selection where you reward the favorite son.

Bucks was lauded for stepping back in 2018 and the success that you had that year. Did anyone here interpret that as the less coaching he imparts the better the team is and perhaps wonder if the team would be better with even less.

 

[Matrix10]

I thought Ed was good for you (while he was good for you) when he was in the 'move with the times' mode.

Move from Victoria Park has paid massive dividends as was his first aggressive coaching head hunting of Mick from WC.

It is ironic in someways that he went back to the antiquated and less successful method of coach selection where you reward the favorite son.

Bucks was lauded for stepping back in 2018 and the success that you had that year. Did anyone here interpret that as the less coaching he imparts the better the team is and perhaps wonder if the team would be better with even less.

Great post,but may your 1980GFVideo rot in purgatory

 

[partylikeits1990]

How does having Harvey or Sanderson as caretaker help the club?

We have won more games of footy since Sanderson has been assistant coach. It’s possible he would be a successful senior coach second time around.

 

[partylikeits1990]

There are no facts that suggest Buckley will ever coach again. It's an opinion, like mine that no club will give him the top job.

Choco Williams is an actual AFL premiership coach and he can’t get a top job gig at a second club. No chance Bucks will coach again at the highest level if it doesn’t work out with us this season.

 

[Apples]

Mate I would suggest that Buckley doesn't need you to stand up for him in this regard, no matter how well intentioned. Respectful? Disrespectful? That's not for you to judge of others. If you respect him which you clearly do, then so be it and leave it at that. Suggest you don't judge others based on your own personal beliefs/views. It's not healthy.

I think that post is a nonsense. Liked your previous two though. Of course we can judge the posts of others as disrespectful. Doc's post smacked of disrespect. There's nothing wrong with pointing that out.

 

[sr36]

How does having Harvey or Sanderson as caretaker help the club?

Imagine this board if Bucks stands down at round 15, Harvey takes over. We win the last 8 games of the season to narrowly miss the finals on percentage. Due to his success as caretaker, Harvey is appointed as senior coach on a 5 year contract - Had to give him 5 because Geelong were interested

 

[Carringbush2010]

No more ex Collingwood players please. Also no to Scott.
Ross Lyon would be terrific.

Would prefer either of the Scott’s over Lyon

Prefer neither but the club is gonna be beggar here, so we may have to choose whoever is willing to take the job.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Imagine this board if Bucks stands down at round 15, Harvey takes over. We win the last 8 games of the season to narrowly miss the finals on percentage. Due to his success as caretaker, Harvey is appointed as senior coach on a 5 year contract - Had to give him 5 because Geelong were interested

 

[Carringbush2010]

He doesn’t deserve to be sacked. He’s a legend of the club.

The club is bigger than the individual Jmac, never ever forget that. He should do what's right for the club and as Wrighty is his boss he may not have a choice.

 

[partylikeits1990]

Imagine this board if Bucks stands down at round 15, Harvey takes over. We win the last 8 games of the season to narrowly miss the finals on percentage. Due to his success as caretaker, Harvey is appointed as senior coach on a 5 year contract - Had to give him 5 because Geelong were interested

This post nearly made me vomit