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That means jack shit. Geelong plays nine games in Geelong every season which props up our winning record. I’ll admit it gives us a H&A advantage and why we make finals yearly. Chris Scott can’t coach.
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Coach Is Hardwick now the second best coach in the league behind Clarkson?
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Hardwick was Clarko’s assistant. So was Beveridge. Fagan had a role too. Who else?
Then all these guys leave and Hawthorn fall off a cliff. I think it might’ve been the assistant coaches making Clarko, rather than Clarko making the assistant coaches.
Are you even a Geelong fan?
How do you think we went last year without a home ground?
Also go and check each years games at our home ground against Vic sides and if it were on a neutral ground what would we have lost costing us a finals spot?
There isn’t many.
We win because we are good and without Richmond (a team that will be looked back on as an all time great side) would have b2b flags.
Disagree on that do you?
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Yeah... I dont think a coaching panel of McHale, Sheedy, Norm Smith, Yabby Jeans and Leigh Matthews could help the Hawks at the moment. Hawks are crap cos their players are either past it or raw.
That's why your team plays like arse.
Hardwick will be called the best coach because his team is winning premierships, but I've always ranked coaches on if they can do it with two different lists/teams, like Malthouse, Sheedy. Ross Lyon not quite twice.
Clarkson's star is fading now that he's without a stack of draft pick concessions which the hawks built their list from.
Clarkson's star is fading now that he's without a stack of draft pick concessions which the hawks built their list from.
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We have an advantage on every Victorian club in the league and that’s we aren’t in a group of 9 clubs that’s got to play neutral home games. It screws us in finals absolutely but it’s hard to tell which seasons we deserve to actually be there.
Was Saturday another “Clarko” masterclass ?
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Funny that his record at every ground not located in Geelong is 85 wins, 63 losses, 2 draws - and that’s WITHOUT counting his premiership year.
it can’t be that f***en hard to access online stats, seriously.
‘oh we only make finals because of the home ground.’
yeah considering he has a 58 per cent winning record AWAY from there, I think we can safely say you’re point is absolutely incorrect.
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Based on the numbers, all of them.
We deserve to be there every year. You’re full of shit.
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In 2018 did we deserve to be there? Nope.
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It goes up to 101-65-2 when you check the numbers across his whole coaching career.
for a point of comparison, Damien Hardwick’s career record is a lower
Winning percentage than Chris Scott’s career AWAY winning percentage
for a point of comparison, Damien Hardwick’s career record is a lower
Winning percentage than Chris Scott’s career AWAY winning percentage
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This is a short-sighted view. Hardwick picked up a side that was said to be the worst side since Fitzroy. Yes, he had three high picks already. But the rest of the side was trash. He went about rebuilding a side with the disadvantage of expansion sides picking up all the elite picks. Clarkson already had Hodge and then went ahead and had priority picks and some amazing trades fall his way (Jonathan Hay). So Hardwick's first few years had a lot of losses and he hasn't had the luxury of coaching for as long as Clarkson has to even out his win-loss ratio. At the same time, I think this Richmond team will be competitive for longer after this batch of premierships compared to Hawthorn because we haven't traded first rounders away on a regular basis trying to stay on top. We have picked the eyes out of the latter parts of the draft as well as the rookie draft. Just as an example, just wait until Mate Colina gets used to playing AFL footy. He is going to be scary as a cat B rookie.
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You do realise the 2017 GF margin was 8-goals don’t you? And 2019 was 15-goals. Your argument sort of loses a bit of oomph…..
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Post-2017 look at what has happened …. Richmond clearly a far superior team on GF day, and their respective direction post 2017 proves it.
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Marvel is Essendon’s home ground goose.
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The home ground gets the Cats an extra 4-points plus percentage each season. I don’t think it gets them into finals, but I’d certainly argue it gets them from 6th to 4th or 5th to 2nd etc…. at which time they have regularly been shown up as not top-4 worthy. Doesn’t mean that’s their future, but it was certainly the case for majority of 2012-2020.
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yes.
we were 5-8 away from home.
yeah sorry but having a home ground that we don’t play all our home games at doesn’t give us an unfair advantage and our record elsewhere supports this.
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I love how people think that Coaches form-lines go up and down with their teams. Job is 90% groundwork - planning and appointing the best people within the constraints, and then the other 10% is managing and motivating a group of coaches and players. Has extremely little to do with individual performance.
post 2017 ie 2018 you went to play adelaide in adelaide and had your pants pulled down. You went to optus to face eagles and had your pants pulled down again. You went to adelaide to play port and lost by 14 points and went to sydney and lost to the giants
you did manage to beat suns at gold coast.
If an interstate team lost 4/5 games interstate - ie 9 for the year we would be very lucky to make finals.
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Dimma is an awesome coach, as is Clarkson. Why compare them, both will go down as legends.
In saying that… I do prefer Dimma.
As traumatic as it was to watch, I loved him on ‘Making Their Mark!’
And how could any Cats supporter give kudos to a Hawk!
In saying that… I do prefer Dimma.
As traumatic as it was to watch, I loved him on ‘Making Their Mark!’
And how could any Cats supporter give kudos to a Hawk!
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Lost to defeated Grand Finalist Adelaide. Think they might have been somewhat motivated. Adelaide were 6-1 to start the season, lost to the Power by 5 points (6-2) and then beat the Bulldogs (7-2) before it all went south.
Lost to the premiers West Coast.
Lost to Port Adelaide while they were hot, going 11-4 before crumbling to 12-10.
Lost to finalists GWS by less than a kick, a team good enough to make the grand final a year later.
Unfortunately didn’t play Freo (8-14) in Perth or Brisbane (5-17) at the Gabba.
True
The only good thing about Marvel is the crowd noise it's gets frigging loud with the roof closed
Also they need to update it feels so outdated don't think nothing has changed since it opened
It just goes to show that winning away from home is hard
your 2017 and 2018 away form showed this.
luckily you get to play every single gf at home
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