Analysis Is Leppa the Right Man for the Job?

[Schache It Off]

So if we move Leppitch on who will replace him? Its all very well saying sack the guy but we need options to bring in, who are they?

Leigh Tudor

 

[Milk Steak]

Time to go head hunting

 

[CarterS]

Leppas quote in the press conference. Lol.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

We miss them both.

Watched a bit of Adcock tonight. He is gone - in both senses of the word. Patfull we definitely miss but Leppa didn't move him on. He moved himself on.

 

[James North]

Yeah Adcock not performing incredibly well.

Joel's reasons were personal - wanted to live in Sydney.

 

[M Malice]

Leppas quote in the press conference. Lol.

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[Bucking Beads]

The biggest worry for me is who on earth would want to take on the job if we did move on from Leppa? Unless it gets a lot worse I think Leppa survives until the end of season at least.

 

[CarterS]

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Something like "the effort was there. It's a starting point."

Seems like a weird thing to say. Was the Collingwood game that bad it reset the rebuild to 0? Is he out of answers?

 

[ItsRaynerGoals]

Personally, I hope Leppa can turn it around. However, if there is decision to move him on, I like the Sound of Stewart Dew. Played under Chocco and Clarko in successful teams now learning the trade in the midfield strategy role under Horse at the Swans.

 

[M Malice]

Something like "the effort was there. It's a starting point."

Seems like a weird thing to say. Was the Collingwood game that bad it reset the rebuild to 0? Is he out of answers?

i am still a leppa supporter at this stage, but i agree, i am getting a bit sick of hearing "the effort was there" as an answer to the question- was there any positives to come out of today leppa? it's like saying we turned up to play today, hell that's what's expected.

can't recall if leppa mentioned "we are a young group" i certainly hope not considering the demons were a fair bit younger than us this week as the pies were last week.

we play carlton and fremantle after the hawks game, so another couple of drubbings in those games will be very hard to excuse IMO.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Something like "the effort was there. It's a starting point."

Seems like a weird thing to say. Was the Collingwood game that bad it reset the rebuild to 0? Is he out of answers?

He definitely had a satisfied sense about him and saw a lot of 'positives' that frankly passed me by as a spectator/supporter. Used the youth card again in respect of our midfield which is a bit of a cop out for mine. Sure Matho, Evans and Robertson were in there but so were Bastinac, Rich, Bell, Zorko and Robbo. The clearances we won in the centre were often not to advantage compared to Melbourne and they had a few very young guys in there too including Oliver, Petracca and Minchie.

 

[hench]

Are the players in the leadership group the right men for the job?

 

[lioninthesand]

At least he didn't look as if he was about to break down into tears like last week, that always concerns me greatly.

Looked like he was sort of 'offsetting' any critisism with an aire of 'what guys, thats just where we are at, didnt you know.. what crises?' - not really in the mood for casually finding positives / making excuses for a absolute smashing by Melbourne, our 6-7th smashing of the year.

A lot of what he said made sense though, using 'starting point' was a terrible choice of words - i dont think he meant it that way. Basically saying, its not even only a 'partial correction' or a reset to where we were, but that it's a 10 goal loss that is going to be used to 'build on' as a 'starting point' sets the bar incredibly low and its not what fans want to hear - i wanted him to say 'regardless of last week, that was unacceptable, we are better than that and supporters should expect more'...

 

[AFLQLD]

I would love to think that Leppa can turn things around from here. And there is no great gain in sacking him midseason because... For whom? A caretaker is all we would get. We may as well persist until the end of this season, review properly and then make a calm rational decision.

Having said that, I also believe that the end of this year will be the best time to find a new coach if that is what we need. I think it is likely that we would be the only club in the market so would have a chance to lure the best available.

If you look down the list of senior coaches:

Adelaide: Pyke is very safe
Carlton: Bolton is very safe while they rebuild.
Collingwood: I don't think they will get rid of Bucks unless they gave a big, big name coming in. They will just throw more cash at their problems and stick with Buckley.
Essendon: Worsfold is safe until they reassemble the team post-WADA.
Fremantle: Lyon will go into some sort of rebuild mode but won't call it that and will be given a couple of years to do it.
Geelong: Chris Scott is very safe.
Gold Coast: Eade will be given more time to sort out the mess down the road.
GWS: Cameron is very safe with his list of first rounders.
Hawthorn: Clarkson is safe and would have a few years of serious sliding before anyone will even raise an eyebrow.
Melbourne: Roos is off but Goodwin will take his place and have a couple of seasons.
North: Brad Scott is safe.
Port: despite the early talk, Hinckley will be given next year as a make or break.
Richmond: hardwick is probably most at risk but they might be digging themselves out of a hole now so more than likely they will honour his contract.
Saints: Richardson hasn't produced a lot yet but seems to have support and there is a perception that Saints are young and rising. He will be given next year at least.
Swans: Longmire is safe
West Coast: Simpson is safe.
Bulldogs: Beveridge is the current golden boy so he is safe.

So the likelihood as I see it is that Leppa's job is most at risk (and probably the only one really at risk) which at least means if we go for a new coach, we may be the only ones in the market.

The next question is: who is out there, who do we want...and who wants us?

 

[chopperduck]

After the Pies game, simply having effort is a good start. Dont find anything wrong with what Leppa said. After effort comes discipline (sticking to roles and playing your part) then skills.

 

[nigelicious]

Are you lot serious? I can't believe the current result of this thread. Do you really think that Leppa is to blame for the current lot? Thanks for reinforcing why I stopped posting here. The buck might stop with the coach in traditional reckoning but this is absolutely down to the players and their effort. **** you if you disagree

 

[Gibbo_88]

I would love to think that Leppa can turn things around from here. And there is no great gain in sacking him midseason because... For whom? A caretaker is all we would get. We may as well persist until the end of this season, review properly and then make a calm rational decision.

Spot on. If we're going to judge a coach week by week if he is the right man for the job then a lot of us are going to change our minds. 10 weeks in, there's only been two performances for me that were far below what we should be producing, the rest I am not surprised by. See how the next 10 weeks go.

 

[Big Lion]

Are you lot serious? I can't believe the current result of this thread. Do you really think that Leppa is to blame for the current lot? Thanks for reinforcing why I stopped posting here. The buck might stop with the coach in traditional reckoning but this is absolutely down to the players and their effort. **** you if you disagree

You stopped posting here but i'm reading this wtf???

The coach is responsible for getting players to turn up with effort, last week there was no effort at all bar 3 or 4 players. We have players who can play. Go through the list we aren't a bottom 4 side. We have players who were rising stars that have gone backwards. Our game plan is very easy for opposing teams to pull apart. When does some of that fall on the coach?

 

[Lixy_]

Are you lot serious? I can't believe the current result of this thread. Do you really think that Leppa is to blame for the current lot? Thanks for reinforcing why I stopped posting here. The buck might stop with the coach in traditional reckoning but this is absolutely down to the players and their effort. **** you if you disagree

Nigel, you are an inspiration. You inspired me to log in to BF for the first time in 14months just so I could like your post. Bravo brother, and ditto. I couldn't have said it better.

 

[James North]

Go through the list and we *are* a bottom 4 side...

Effort shouldn't need to be driven by the coach every damn week. That's why money exchanges hands at the very least.

Fair enough if you don't like the gameplan, but we're talking about a large group of our list under two coaches coasting way too regularly. Those two coaches were both inspirational hard nuts as players...

 

[3KZ is Football]

Go through the list and we *are* a bottom 4 side...

Effort shouldn't need to be driven by the coach every damn week. That's why money exchanges hands at the very least.

Fair enough if you don't like the gameplan, but we're talking about a large group of our list under two coaches coasting way too regularly. Those two coaches were both inspirational hard nuts as players...

Ok then. Let's sack all the players.

 

[chopperduck]

The players are the ones that wanted to change to this fast paced run and gun game plan and they cant even put in the effort to do what they want to do.

If the players dont turn up on game day, they are the ones responsible. Yes it is the job of the coach to get them up, but they still have to actually do it. If they are happy to coast by it doesnt matter who the coach is.

 

[chopperduck]

Ok then. Let's sack all the players.

You are right, that is silly. Let's sack all the coaches instead.

 

[James North]

Ok then. Let's sack all the players.

I think today they performed exactly as their status in the competition suggests.

Considering the number of high draft picks on the Melbourne list, I'm not surprised it's coming up Milhouse for them.

I was addressing the effort discussion above only. I don't think effort needs the senior coach's approval, it should be intrinsic.

 

[3KZ is Football]

You are right, that is silly. Let's sack all the coaches instead.

Genius!