Is Neil Craig the mumbling cancer that is destroying the Crows from within?

[crowsup]

Your own supporters say you coast along hoping other teams drop below your own level of mediocrity, and only if that happens then maybe you'll win some finals.

That's pathetic

Try to concentrate on the topic rather than garden variety attempts to disrail the subject with unrelated matters, this thread is about the crows, you can concentrate on them I'd hope.

Ok Asg, lets concentrate on the topic.
The OP was started in 2007?. It was/is very prophetic. Everything stated came to pass. the only **** up was the name. It is not Neil Craig that is a cancer that is destroying his club, it is Mark William that is destroying his club.
As far as a coach sending his injured players for remedial ops, every club does it at the end of their season, when possible.
We are doing at the end of our season (round 24), you did it at the end of your season (round 11). We are all square.

 

[Asgardian]

You said "Ok Asg, lets concentrate on the topic."

and then started on about Port again

Do you have short term memory issues?

 

[subaru]

It's called being realistic - the AFC don't come out with Revolutions, creeds etc - they are just quietly getting the job done which in a few years sets the club up for something special. They don't give in - or send players off for operations early.

Port supporters think they really truly ruly can win a premiership every year - dreamin' - they believe the garbage that spews from Alberton !

That is why Craig is a much better coach than Williams. HE IS IN THE PROCESS of instilling confidence and a team structure where Williams is surrendering when things get tough.

Marathon - not a sprint and Port fell over at the first hurdle.

 

[Asgardian]

Crows coaching box during finals

Paul Hamilton:-- Craigy, we are getting smashed in the clearances, what other options do you want to try?

Neil Craig:-- kvherkgfr vrekuri7ugvrt flgeo4rihg gkviu poufbvgr, quyftr pbhniguj zxvfioty6dfgtm

Paul Hamilton:-- is that really a good idea Craigy?

Neil craig:-- poeigytryhn juyfuywf tgoui guciu

Paul Hamilton:-- Okay Craigy

Ben Hart:-- Craigy, we cannot stop Medhurst's distribution, can we try Shirley on him?

Neil Craig:-- oidhceubv gfopikoug dckhjjfyuts
cuyfudv gousvjnhy asdfhiyyv8 vuyutusjcc jhbbd

Ben Hart:-- But Craigy, he's our best forward so far

TBC

 

[Toots Hibbert]

Toots didnt Choco play Cornes this year when he needed, shoulder, Knee and personality surgery? Didnt he delay surgery just so he could play against the Crows?

Then there is the example with Thomson, didnt he make him play for Sturt even though he had OP?

Chad played his part in our showdown win then was sent off for surgery. He'll be ready for the start of next season.

Tredders was also sent off to the surgeon when he hurt his shoulder rather than forcing him to play on to boost results for the sake of the coaches future. He'll be ready for next season also.

Adam Thomson has said that he didn't have OP but had early warning signs of developing it. It appears that he was managed very well as he hasn't broken down.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

It's called being realistic - the AFC don't come out with Revolutions, creeds etc - they are just quietly getting the job done which in a few years sets the club up for something special. They don't give in - or send players off for operations early.

Port supporters think they really truly ruly can win a premiership every year - dreamin' - they believe the garbage that spews from Alberton !

That is why Craig is a much better coach than Williams. HE IS IN THE PROCESS of instilling confidence and a team structure where Williams is surrendering when things get tough.

Marathon - not a sprint and Port fell over at the first hurdle.

You posted this prior to your shock loss to a team that had travelled to Perth the week before, was missing some key players and in front of your home crowd.

Please tell us whether you think yesterday was another terrific learning experience. Under Craig you are slipping backwards.

 

[subaru]

Was no shock loss - read my posts - said 50/50 AT BEST - I am realistic - not prone to believing bullsh!t propoganda that spews from Alberton like you lot - Revolution - yeah right !

For the team we have - which are not stars - and considering very few people - including myself - did not have them in the top 8 at the start of the year - I reckon they have done OK.


It is your arrogance and sheer bloody mindedness that when your team fails - and fails in epic proportions - you feel the need to attempt some comparison - half the posters on your board want Williams sacked too - and they are right - he is the reason your club lost by a record margin last year - and you all seem to think Craig is worse !

Well, that's fine - I am more realistic than you - believe the propoganda - I really don't give a sh!t.

And don't tell me you prefer finishing 13th to 7th,dropping 11 spots on the ladder, season declared over in Round 13, and holding the record for a GF loss - coz that is a blatant lie.

 

[D_One]

Was no shock loss - read my posts - said 50/50 AT BEST - I am realistic - not prone to believing bullsh!t propoganda that spews from Alberton like you lot - Revolution - yeah right !

For the team we have - which are not stars - and considering very few people - including myself - did not have them in the top 8 at the start of the year - I reckon they have done OK.


It is your arrogance and sheer bloody mindedness that when your team fails - and fails in epic proportions - you feel the need to attempt some comparison - half the posters on your board want Williams sacked too - and they are right - he is the reason your club lost by a record margin last year - and you all seem to think Craig is worse !

Well, that's fine - I am more realistic than you - believe the propoganda - I really don't give a sh!t.

And don't tell me you prefer finishing 13th to 7th,dropping 11 spots on the ladder, season declared over in Round 13, and holding the record for a GF loss - coz that is a blatant lie.

And don't tell me you would prefer your last ten years to ours - coz that is a blatant lie

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Crows successfully completing a decade of nothing

 

[bomba4eva]

He will well and truly be seen as a cancer if the Crows persist with him over the next few years. Not capable of winning a flag and is building a very average side. Crows have now approached a decade of embarrassing failure and will go deep into a second decade if it doesn't realise that a cleanout is needed. Too much garbage still on the list.

 

[KingsCrow]

And don't tell me you would prefer your last ten years to ours - coz that is a blatant lie

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Crows successfully completing a decade of nothing

Well ofcourse anyone would pick a decade which involved a premiership over one which doesnt contain any at all.


But I could use the same logic in asking which would you rather, one premiership, or two?

 

[subaru]

That's a toss up - let's see -

Record GF loss 119 ..
...certainly don't want that

Making Choking an art form in 2001, 2002, 2003
....don't want that

Sending everyone off to hospital early 2006 giving up the season - was that a bottom 4 year too?
...no...no thanks but no thanks...

Giving up a season in Round 13 to finish bottom 4 (again - was it?) after coughing up seemingly unassailable leads to Carlton/Brisbane
....no don't want that either...embarrassing ...

Losing a semi-final to the most hated opposition by 15 goals
...definitely not that

Winning 1 flag in the frst ten years as opposed to 2 flags in the first ten years
...nope - not that either

Dropping 11 spots on the ladder after playing in a GF - losing GF -
...oohh no ...not that either


Bowing,goose stepping, loud mouth dream final, karma sprouting players,
...nup


Having the Admin staff jumping ship all at once with some pretty strong suggestions around the traps that it is the coach that makes them want to leave -or a stable board with sound financial acumen and a consistent record of playing finals - not a good winning ratio - but ya gotta be there to have a crack....

yeah the latter thanks


MMMmmm - quite happy with my club - thanks for your concern.

 

[Toots Hibbert]

He will well and truly be seen as a cancer if the Crows persist with him over the next few years. Not capable of winning a flag and is building a very average side. Crows have now approached a decade of embarrassing failure and will go deep into a second decade if it doesn't realise that a cleanout is needed. Too much garbage still on the list.

Oh they're persisting with him all right.

Recently gave him an extra three years on his contract despite no need to do it.

Craig has no ambition to coach anywhere else. This is portrayed as loyalty but it's because the man does not want to get out of the comfort zone of a familiar environment. He's a safety first coach with a safety first game plan.

 

[subaru]

Using a bomber fan as back up - Toots - I never thought you'd stoop quite that low!

I guess rabble find solace with other rabble...

 

[bomba4eva]

Oh they're persisting with him all right.

Recently gave him an extra three years on his contract despite no need to do it.

Craig has no ambition to coach anywhere else. This is portrayed as loyalty but it's because the man does not want to get out of the comfort zone of a familiar environment. He's a safety first coach with a safety first game plan.

I am well aware that he extended his contract but when I said persist, I meant if they hadn't sacked him earlier. He is well and truly a cancer on the club and his continual presence there will only exacerbate the problems Adelaide have. His game plan is rubbish and I will say now that if Craig is with the Crows in 2-3 years time, many Crow fans willbe calling for his head.

 

[CranePooleSchmidt]

Craig is a champion; whos coaching style which keeps the crows from bottoming out by getting the best out of his list is made ineffective by the socialist-based draft system.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Oh they're persisting with him all right.

Recently gave him an extra three years on his contract despite no need to do it.

Craig has no ambition to coach anywhere else. This is portrayed as loyalty but it's because the man does not want to get out of the comfort zone of a familiar environment. He's a safety first coach with a safety first game plan.

Craig would never leave Adelaide because he knows he couldn't get a gig coaching anywhere else. Especially now his suspect coaching style has been found out time and time again in finals.

 

[coast2coast]

He will well and truly be seen as a cancer if the Crows persist with him over the next few years. Not capable of winning a flag and is building a very average side. Crows have now approached a decade of embarrassing failure and will go deep into a second decade if it doesn't realise that a cleanout is needed. Too much garbage still on the list.

yeah i wish we had matthew knights instead. he's awesome.

 

[D_One]

yeah i wish we had matthew knights instead. he's awesome.

Maybe you should take Terry Wallace instead. He has a 2 from 7 finals record too ... but at least the Doggies had the good sence to give Terry the heave ho at that stage. The Camry Football Club has just re-signed the toothless wonder.

 

[bomba4eva]

yeah i wish we had matthew knights instead. he's awesome.

Good coach or not, at least you would be able to play a decent game style that your fans would love.

Nope, instead you will continue to play Craig's insipid style which will not win your group of battlers a flag.

We are a lucky club not to get someone like Craig coming in and ruining it

 

[coast2coast]

Maybe you should take Terry Wallace instead. He has a 2 from 7 finals record too ... but at least the Doggies had the good sence to give Terry the heave ho at that stage. The Camry Football Club has just re-signed the toothless wonder.

at least we have a coach who's still passionate about his club. yours has lost interest now he has to start from scratch AGAIN. seems like he'd rather be anywhere else. unfortunately for you and him no-one is interested anymore.

 

[D_One]

at least we have a coach who's still passionate about his club. yours has lost interest now he has to start from scratch AGAIN. seems like he'd rather be anywhere else. unfortunately for you and him no-one is interested anymore.

And who would want Cwaigy. A guy who has played 0 VFL/AFL games, and now has a 2 from 7 finals record. A guy who has a game plan that would bore any other fan base to the point of being placed on suicide watch. Yet this game plan still excites the brain dead fans down at Crowland.

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Crows successfully completing a decade of nothing

 

[Toots Hibbert]

at least we have a coach who's still passionate about his club. yours has lost interest now he has to start from scratch AGAIN. seems like he'd rather be anywhere else. unfortunately for you and him no-one is interested anymore.

Clearly you haven't seen or heard Choco in the last week. His appearance on Footy Confidential displayed a guy who is up for the challenge of coaching and a keenness to continue at Port. Choco has passion aplenty.

As for the boring Craig, he's keen to stay at carparkland because it's all he knows in football.

 

[coast2coast]

And who would want Cwaigy. A guy who has played 0 VFL/AFL games, and now has a 2 from 7 finals record. A guy who has a game plan that would bore any other fan base to the point of being placed on suicide watch. Yet this game plan still excites the brain dead fans down at Crowland.

if only he could match the "exciting" (TM) brand of football delivered by the power this year.

we too might be able to get crowds of 18-thousand flocking to watch us play.

 

[D_One]

if only he could match the "exciting" (TM) brand of football delivered by the power this year.

we too might be able to get crowds of 18-thousand flocking to watch us play.

Are you sure you want to compare a coach with no teeth, who is yet to win two finals in a single year with a premiership coach?

After adopting the supporter base of 9 SANFL clubs you have more than twice as many supporters and yet you are not close to averaging twice the crowds. But then again if I had ten years of failure behind me I’d be grasping at the esoteric too.
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[Toots Hibbert]

A description of symptoms provided by Crow supporters writing in to the Adelaide Advertiser

"The whole problem with the Crows is the whole heirachy is old and stale.Time is up for Reid and Trigg.The coach is also hopeless because he does not have the instincts for the game which all the best players and coachs have.This shows up badly when they are under pressure and there is no plan “b”."​

Diagnosis:- Cancer

"Lets call a spade a spade. The Crows, like Sydney, flood. Fitness levels need to be high and the team needs to be very well drilled to make this style of play effective. Unfortunately for the Crows this style of football results in a one dimensional team as well as a one dimensional coach that are easily worked out come the finals."​

Diagnosis:- Cancer

"Surely the headline “Fans desert the Crows” should have read “Crows desert the Fans”. The Crows have played tedious, unproductive football for the whole season and it is not possible to watch them with any level of enjoyment and their performances should not be rationalised in any way."​

Diagnosis:- Cancer

"Ever thought that perhaps quite a few didn’t turn up because they don’t believe in Neil Craig anymore. The club should never have re-signed him..they will go no-where under this guy.

Along with 5 fnals loses..we also have suffered 2 preseason grand final loses..he just doesn’t know how to coach in final games!

We also need to change our Captain..its clear its not working."​

Diagnosis:- Cancer