Is this Racism or PC gone mad?

[acker]

Firstly, this nation of ours is hardly great.

Secondly, how calling a white guy 'ni**er' and being ok with it proves racism is fine is beyond me - please try and stay relevant to the thread - even if you are going to be incredibly racist and ignorant.

Firstly - It is

Secondly - People can step back from overbearing political correctness and discuss these issues.

Maybe a few of you more politically correct precious types should meet Mr Clayton Bigsby on the following link.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6733733575846933384

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Firstly - It is

Secondly - People can step back from overbearing political correctness and discuss these issues.

Maybe a few of you more politically correct precious types should meet Mr Clayton Bigsby on the following link.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6733733575846933384

Nothing wrong with discussing these issues at all, I have consistently advocated that on this site.

What I take issue with is racists using these discussion as an umbrella to hide their obvious racist beliefs.

A great example of this is your use of the term 'coloured'.

 

[acker]

Nothing wrong with discussing these issues at all, I have consistently advocated that on this site.

What I take issue with is racists using these discussion as an umbrella to hide their obvious racist beliefs.

A great example of this is your use of the term 'coloured'.

I'm comfortable using the term "coloured" Karl

And so are many others note the link

I missed the joke...
The New York Post's decision to publish a blatantly racist cartoon comparing our commander in chief to a dead chimpanzee is absolutely unacceptable, especially given the historic racist stereotypes of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.

http://www.naacp.org/

How ironic

Are you a latent racist Karl ?

And I think considering your eagerness to label others like myself as a racist because of broadly accepted terminology I used, that is a fair question.

 

[Clown]

So what you're saying is, the opinions I've posted on thsi discussion board, are actually my opinions?

No need to be a smartass. My point was pretty clear - what is not funny to you might well be funny to others, so the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of the cartoon cannot be determined by its 'funniness'. As such, your opinion on the 'funniness' of the cartoon is of little importance when we discuss whether or not it should have been published.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

I'm comfortable using the term "coloured" Karl

I can see that, which is why I correctly label you as a racist.

http://www.naacp.org/

How ironic

Are you a latent racist Karl ?

And I think considering your eagerness to label others like myself as a racist because of broadly accepted terminology I used, that is a fair question.

Broadly accepted? You think the term coloured is broadly accepted?

A good method of working out if its ok to use a particular term, is to say it to a bunch of people that it refers to. I can confidently say that you would not ever dare call a bunch of black guys 'coloured' to their face - of course, the anonymity of the internet provides a nice sheltered platform for you to use such racist terms without fear of reprisal.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

No need to be a smartass. My point was pretty clear - what is not funny to you might well be funny to others, so the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of the cartoon cannot be determined by its 'funniness'. As such, your opinion on the 'funniness' of the cartoon is of little importance when we discuss whether or not it should have been published.

If there is someone out there who thought the cartoon was funny or witty, I imagine they're a Protestant accountant over the age of 70. If it was rip roaringly funny (like that Clayton Bigsby video acker posted) then I think there's an artistic merit to it and don't see it as being malicious.

Much like Van Gogh's video, for which he was murdered. Yes it said some unfavourable things about a group, but he did it in an objective, artistic manner.

This cartoon is, like I said, at worst blatantly racist and at best, a shitty cartoon that is incredibly insensitive/ignorant.

 

[acker]

I can see that, which is why I correctly label you as a racist.



Broadly accepted? You think the term coloured is broadly accepted?

A good method of working out if its ok to use a particular term, is to say it to a bunch of people that it refers to. I can confidently say that you would not ever dare call a bunch of black guys 'coloured' to their face - of course, the anonymity of the internet provides a nice sheltered platform for you to use such racist terms without fear of reprisal.

Karl until you learn to seperate "what you think" from "what is fact" any coherent discussion with you will be difficult.

Did you go to the link ? [URL="http://www.naacp.org/"]http://www.naacp.org/

 

[Juddism]

ask Andrew Symonds...

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Karl until you learn to seperate "what you think" from "what is fact" any coherent discussion with you will be difficult.

Did you go to the link ? http://www.naacp.org/

I'm aware of the link, that does not make it alright - have a read up on the debate over the use of the word in that organisation.

 

[acker]

I'm aware of the link, that does not make it alright - have a read up on the debate over the use of the word in that organisation.

Karl according to this passage in wikipedia you appear to be more hypersensitive about the word colored than others.

Today it is generally no longer regarded as a politically correct term, however even that is debatable, due to its continued occasional appearance, most notably its use in the acronym NAACP. Carla Sims, communications director for the NAACP in Washington, D.C.,said "The term 'colored' is not derogatory, [the NAACP] chose the word 'colored' because it was the most positive description commonly used at that time. It's outdated and antiquated but not offensive."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored

Now how about swallowing your pride and apologise for labelling me a racist because I used the term colored in a way that only seemed to offend you.

 

[JHF1870]

Ok.....Lets establish something here.

The creaters of this cartoon would have maybe had in their mind honest intentions. However it didn't take long for us to find plenty of problems with the picture. Do you think for one minute they didn't realize the implications of the cartoon? They would have seen the ability to exploit the cartoon, and suggest that it was harmless. There is absolutely no way they could not have realised the racial implication of the cartoon. They shouldn't have even attempted printing it.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Karl according to this passage in wikipedia you appear to be more hypersensitive about the word colored than others.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored

Now how about swallowing your pride and apologise for labelling me a racist because I used the term colored in a way that only seemed to offend you.

That quote from the wiki article actually backs up my claim that it is not without criticism, and is generally considered a non-PC term.

The term coloured is racist, and you are a racist for using it imo.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Lefties favour free speach if they agree with it hence Louis Farrahkan can visit Australia but a leader of the BNP cannot.Only difference between these two is
One says Jews and white people are evil
The other says Jews and black people are evil.
Van Gogh was killed for speaking the truth,others like him are now terrified to speak out.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali was threatened and fled Europe,Pat Condell has been threatened with getting his thoat cut.Salman Rushdie is still in fear
Silence through terrorism is working.The apologists are helping it

False binary board. You set up "lefties" and say "they say this [which is bullocks] but when righties do it they are paragons of virtue and goodness

 

[acker]

That quote from the wiki article actually backs up my claim that it is not without criticism, and is generally considered a non-PC term.

The term coloured is racist, and you are a racist for using it imo.

Well all I can say Karl is

That's a pretty p** w*** way to debate a topic

And I hope that clown eats you

Literally

 

[WA ROO]

False binary board. You set up "lefties" and say "they say this [which is bullocks] but when righties do it they are paragons of virtue and goodness

I was answering a post that said lefties are in favour on free speech


I stand by the answer the yes only as long and they agree with it.Lefties and the right both have a history of censoring opposing views

 

[Monkster]

That quote from the wiki article actually backs up my claim that it is not without criticism, and is generally considered a non-PC term.

The term coloured is racist, and you are a racist for using it imo.

Err try reading it properly Karl, it's actually stating that people who think it's a non-PC term are criticised, not that the word itself is.

 

[Clown]

If there is someone out there who thought the cartoon was funny or witty, I imagine they're a Protestant accountant over the age of 70. If it was rip roaringly funny (like that Clayton Bigsby video acker posted) then I think there's an artistic merit to it and don't see it as being malicious.

So let me guess this straight:

Because you don't find the cartoon funny, then it must have been 'malicious'?

You do not honestly think that this is logical, do you?

 

[Karl Pilkington]

So let me guess this straight:

Because you don't find the cartoon funny, then it must have been 'malicious'?

You do not honestly think that this is logical, do you?

I don't think anyone could find the cartoon funny. Its my opinion that there is no joke in the cartoon.

Did you find it funny? Did anyone?

 

[Clown]

I don't think anyone could find the cartoon funny. Its my opinion that there is no joke in the cartoon.

Now you are simply being churlish.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Err try reading it properly Karl, it's actually stating that people who think it's a non-PC term are criticised, not that the word itself is.

Err, maybe you should have a look at the first sentence. Then have a look who is making the comment. Then think about it for a bit.

 

[Karl Pilkington]

Now you are simply being churlish.

Care to point out what the joke is?

Its an important point - because it gives me the impression they were looking for any kind of minuscule way to call a black leader a monkey.

 

[Monkster]

Care to point out what the joke is?

That whoever designed the stimulus package had the brains of an ape.

 

[Monkster]

Err, maybe you should have a look at the first sentence.

Today it is generally no longer regarded as a politically correct term, however even that is debatable, due to its continued occasional appearance, most notably its use in the acronym NAACP.

You mean that part of the first sentence?

Then have a look who is making the comment.

Carla Sims, communications director for the NAACP in Washington, D.C.

 

[ieasys00]

 

[Illinois Nazi]

I wouldn't have thought Obama had time to be compiling MMM playlists these days.