Opinion Is this rock bottom?

[Roosurgence]

Agree.

Relative to expectations, this year has been far worse than 2022. We had a new respected off field structure, some decent mature recruits via draft assistance, 2 highly acclaimed draft picks and a very favourable draw. This was year 4 of the rebuild - things were expected to improve and expectations were very much for 6 wins or so including a couple of respected scalps. In 2022 we still had Noble - and Armafio - involved in football decisions and no one really expected any success in that environment so beating Richmond was a real nourishing achievement.

The obvious 'shocker' this year is that we have dropped 20 games in a row - that stat sort of just rolls off the tongue now - that's how bad things have become. However far worse than that is that other so called weaker clubs have improved strongly this year - so the gap between the bottom 2 and them has grown - not narrowed. The idea that we could realistically compete for the 8 remains miles off - just as it did last year.

And btw - we would want to play WC at home early next year or this losing streak could end up beating that of the 1930's. I would like to see people claim how we have 'improved' if that was to happen.

You are looking at it the wrong way. This year I would argue we have improved. We have been a lot more competitive in game, even with no assistance from our experienced players. It’s been our young players driving that competitiveness.

Yes the win / loss column doesn’t make good reading but other than a couple of shockers, we have been in positions to win games.

Last year other than the games we won, most of the time we were uncompetitive.

Take the gift West Coast handed us and be great full that we have more control over our drafting this year.

 

[danj]

The main problem with us is the lack of improvement and lack of prospect of future improvement.
Celebrating losing is a culture killer, can't see us getting out of the bottom 2 any time soon.

Well six months at least

 

[Gasometer]

I wouldn't wish either of our years on 16 other clubs.

Ummm, yes

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[Roosurgence]

The perspective that people need to look at is that we are no better or no worse than we were yesterday.

Just because West Coast won a game of footy, it doesn’t make us a worse side.

It just means we now get a better pick.

 

[Passmore]

I'd wager some on here have forgotten how bad 2022 was.

Most weeks in 2022 I truly wondered if we'd kick a goal. It was that bad.

Our football for most parts this year has been miles better.

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[Passmore]

The perspective that people need to look at is that we are no better or no worse than we were yesterday.

Just because West Coast won a game of footy, it doesn’t make us a worse side.

It just means we now get a better pick.

We're in a better spot now. Rock bottom was sitting 17th after the shit we've been through.

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[koshari]

Most weeks in 2022 I truly wondered if we'd kick a goal. It was that bad.

Our football for most parts this year has been miles better.

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Probably percentage is a better indication of a teams form but we have to learn to when a games there to do so.

 

[DocSholl]

Probably percentage is a better indication of a teams form but we have to learn to when a games there to do so.

I think this is an important point - as cliche as it sounds, we don't actually know how to win.

If the interchange infringement doesn't happen I reckon we are a fair chance at winning at least one of * games, the saints game and the WC game. Possibly all of them.

 

[amaz199]

2024 we might actually win more than 2 games.

We will win more than two games.

 

[amaz199]

We will win more than three games.

 

[Only Forwards]

We will win more than three games.

Yeah we will.

The answer to the question of is this rock bottom the answer is, Rock bottom was 2022.

Consistent 10 goal losses with a coach that couldn't coach and a high end talent who didn't want to be there. Even with our second win in 2022, the one against Richmond, if you played that game 100 times we probably only win it a couple of times out of 100. We needed everything to go right to be able to eek out the win. Not many games where a side has such overwhelming scoring shot differential is falling the way it did.

In 2023 the wheel has turned, it may only be a small amount but it has turned none the less. While 20 losses in a row might feel like we are as bad as last year we were marginally better. We went from 10 goal losses to 3-4 goal losses. It is only incremental but it is improvement.

We have a bunch of talented kids on the list, which we will add more to this year. But they are not even the most important thing to keep the wheel turning. The most important thing for us right now is stability.

Some of the players we have on our list have not really had a decent crack at developing. I mean there was a point this year where our players had 4 coaches in like 15 games of football.

 

[czero]

Yeah we will.

The answer to the question of is this rock bottom the answer is, Rock bottom was 2022.

Consistent 10 goal losses with a coach that couldn't coach and a high end talent who didn't want to be there. Even with our second win in 2022, the one against Richmond, if you played that game 100 times we probably only win it a couple of times out of 100. We needed everything to go right to be able to eek out the win. Not many games where a side has such overwhelming scoring shot differential is falling the way it did.

In 2023 the wheel has turned, it may only be a small amount but it has turned none the less. While 20 losses in a row might feel like we are as bad as last year we were marginally better. We went from 10 goal losses to 3-4 goal losses. It is only incremental but it is improvement.

We have a bunch of talented kids on the list, which we will add more to this year. But they are not even the most important thing to keep the wheel turning. The most important thing for us right now is stability.

Some of the players we have on our list have not really had a decent crack at developing. I mean there was a point this year where our players had 4 coaches in like 15 games of football.

Yep, 22 was a shocker.

And now finally moving on from all the old players and into the new - really held us back and limited our growth.

 

[czero]

Watching that westcoast game, it became quite clear that they had amazing old players and pretty terrible (or lets say green) kids. Complete opposite from us - playing all the kids and comparing it to WC, our guys are far better, sharper, better organised.

 

[andana]

Rock bottom
Neo minit

After winning just two matches in 12 years and being dubbed '"Australia's worst footy team", this country football club has won its first-ever league premiership grand final.

Between 2008 and 2021, the Albany Sharks had won only two solitary games,

But it was a sweet September and one to remember for the Albany Sharks as the siren sounded in Mount Barker in Western Australia's south on Saturday.

They had done it.

The ultimate underdogs had finally claimed a flag after years of heartbreak,


The only way is up


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[Gasometer]

Rock bottom is a point in time for me.

Rock bottom is only back a few pages

 

[Gasometer]

This; it’s a toss up between The West Coast or Hawthorn loss at Marvels

 

[czero]

Rock bottom was def last year (when this post was from), prior to our bid or Clarkson. Horrendous losses, kids got injured, the heart of the club was fighting cancer, a footy administrator for a coach, and a first round pick kid and his management who hoodwinked the club and forced integration issues and who spent most of his time joking with TT about leaving.

I don't know about anyone else, but I felt a larger lack of hope than I ever did during my time as a supported, more than 'keep north south', more than Carey.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

**** me, Sheez has retired.

Was just in the retirees lap at G.


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[Makeshift Park]

I’m watching Kiss.

 

[Sillygit]

* me, Sheez has retired.

Was just in the retirees lap at G.


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straight to the hall of fame

 

[gokangas]

* me, Sheez has retired.

Was just in the retirees lap at G.


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Had a good innings - go out on a high.

 

[Devil Fish]

With no McKay, Logue & Zeibell, I just wonder if we could be in for more serious pain in 2024?

Seriously, who will take the BIG forwards?

Sure, we may improve in other areas, but if our midfield can't get AFL fit, we are going to concede some big big scores.

 

[amaz199]

Other than Logue, we'll be ok in my opinion.

We've been largely too slow down back. That'll change.

 

[Passmore]

With no McKay, Logue & Zeibell, I just wonder if we could be in for more serious pain in 2024?

Seriously, who will take the BIG forwards?

Sure, we may improve in other areas, but if our midfield can't get AFL fit, we are going to concede some big big scores.

Big forwards like Billy Frampton?

 

[Devil Fish]

Big forwards like Billy Frampton?

Nah, guys like Tex, Hawkins, Cameron, Daniher, Hipwood, Hogan, Naughton, Curnow etc.

Seriously, who takes these guys next season?