Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[bzparkes]

And we have tens of millions of potential refugees who hold these beliefs looking to move to Europe

Too late, just look at Sweden...

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

No

Thanks for the running commentary Aristotle Pickett .

Very heartbreaking what’s going on.

Crazy that this is going on in the world.

Thanks , I've up late so I've been following closely. It's a shit sandwhich for everyone involved over there.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

 

[spinynorman]

When you say Muslims and Jews hate each other, do you think all of them do? Do the Turks hate Israelis? Bosnians? Moroccans?

Or is this hatred more specific and these issues mostly localised?

The conflict is about dispossession and colonialism, but some like to make it about religion so that it seems more irreconcilable and deeply rooted.

 

[The Passenger]

Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe Israeli political and Zionist leaders to bear the majority brunt for what is happening in this dispute as a whole...

But this was an unnecessary attack from Hamas and one for which they must bear responsibility.

As always in this conflict it will be the average Palestinian who will suffer most.

 

[bzparkes]

Unsurprising Thorpe stands with people who rape innocent women and display their naked & broken bodies like some kind of trophy kill on the back of a ute...

 

[DangerousD]

The conflict is about dispossession and colonialism, but some like to make it about religion so that it seems more irreconcilable and deeply rooted.

This was what i was implying.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Unsurprising Thorpe stands with people who rape innocent women and display their naked & broken bodies like some kind of trophy kill on the back of a ute...

I don't think she stands for that. She stands for disposessed people. She has a point about how Palestine has been robbed of land through the years and that those with the best military get the land.
Blame lies with the original plan in 1946. I think the Jewish people should have been given some holy sites around Jerusalem and a big piece of land and a state in Germany.
Stealing land off Palestine was never a bright idea.

 

[CD Xbow]

Or we drill our own oil which we have plenty of but environmental activists won't let us.

We don't have plenty of oil, only 0.3% of known reserves. Our continental geology didn't produce huge amounts of oil. All those dead little critters turned more into coal and gas, than oil.

Politico has an interesting interview with Dennis Ross, one of the yanks who negotiated a the Oslo Peace Accords. Remember them, all bought unstuck when he was assassinated by Yigal Amir, a right-wing Israeli extremist. Instead of peace, we have a nightmare. Anyway, it's worth a read.

‘There’s Going to Be a Lot of Soul-Searching in Israel When This Is Over’

Former U.S. peace negotiator Dennis Ross weighs in on Hamas’ attack on Israel and the “missed opportunities” that led to the war.

www.politico.com

 

[bzparkes]

I don't think she stands for that. She stands for disposessed people. She has a point about how Palestine has been robbed of land through the years and that those with the best military get the land.
Blame lies with the original plan in 1946. I think the Jewish people should have been given some holy sites around Jerusalem and a big piece of land and a state in Germany.
Stealing land off Palestine was never a bright idea.

It's fine to stand for dispossessed people.

Standing with a group of people whose leadership has just committed a major terrorist attack is questionable at best.

 

[spinynorman]

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

It's fine to stand for dispossessed people.

Standing with a group of people whose leadership has just committed a major terrorist attack is questionable at best.

She should have probably qualified her statement, I agree.

 

[Bugz]

Unsurprising Thorpe stands with people who rape innocent women and display their naked & broken bodies like some kind of trophy kill on the back of a ute...

She is garbage. I'd back a double dissolution if it meant getting her out of the Senate.

 

[Bugz]

Don't get me wrong, I firmly believe Israeli political and Zionist leaders to bear the majority brunt for what is happening in this dispute as a whole...

But this was an unnecessary attack from Hamas and one for which they must bear responsibility.

As always in this conflict it will be the average Palestinian who will suffer most.

The average Palestinian put Hamas into power. Reap and sow.

 

[The Passenger]

The average Palestinian put Hamas into power. Reap and sow.

This can swing both directions, and not just in this conflict.

A genuinely shit take on matters.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

She is garbage. I'd back a double dissolution if it meant getting her out of the Senate.

She's better than Hanson, Malcom Roberts, Canavan and others. At least she's fighting for her people and others .

 

[Bugz]

She's better than Hanson, Malcom Roberts, Canavan and others. At least she's fighting for her people and others .

What a ringing endorsement.

 

[Smeg Head]

She's better than Hanson, Malcom Roberts, Canavan and others. At least she's fighting for her people and others .

They are all as stupid as each other.

 

[Sir_Loin]

She's better than Hanson, Malcom Roberts, Canavan and others. At least she's fighting for her people and others .

Lowest of low bars

 

[spinynorman]

The average Palestinian put Hamas into power. Reap and sow.

Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

theintercept.com

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Lowest of low bars

I've met her. She's a lovely person. She puts on a bit of a show in public but her heart is in the right place.
The left have always pointed out the injustice ordinary Palestinians face. Wong and Albo wont, because Labor have drifted to the right these days.

 

[The Perfect Stranger]

I've met her. She's a lovely person. She puts on a bit of a show in public but her heart is in the right place.
The left have always pointed out the injustice ordinary Palestinians face. Wong and Albo wont, because Labor have drifted to the right these days.

Thorpe is a lovely person and Wong and Albo are on the right. LOL. Alright, I'm out of here. You're a nutter.

 

[Millky95]

 

[RandB]

I've met her. She's a lovely person. She puts on a bit of a show in public but her heart is in the right place.
The left have always pointed out the injustice ordinary Palestinians face. Wong and Albo wont, because Labor have drifted to the right these days.

She's a disgrace. The ambiguity and lack of sensitivity of her tweet was deliberate. Without controversy she has nothing.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Lidia Thorp is a disgusting human being.

It is one thing in supporting dispossessed people, but it's an entirely different thing if she believes this justifies the barbaric kidnapping and murdering of innocent civilians including women and children.