Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[Sphynx]

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Thorpe is a lovely person and Wong and Albo are on the right. LOL. Alright, I'm out of here. You're a nutter.

Do you actually think modern Labor is a leftist party?
Let me give you some examples:
- Ridiculously hawkish on China ,spending 800 billions on nuclear subs, properly called out by Paul Kearing.
-Keeping middle class tax cuts and tax excemptions for the middle class.

• Doing eff all about climate change, opening up new coal and gas unnecessarlily in a climate crisis.
• Doing eff all about the housing crisis
• Doing eff all about the rapidly growing wealth gap
• Falling in behind America on everything including the corrupt Netanyahu regime
• I could name more.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Lidia Thorp is a disgusting human being.

It is one thing in supporting disposed people, but it's an entirely different thing if she believes this justifies the barbaric kidnapping and murdering of innocent civilians including women and children.

She doesn't believe that at all, all she has done is support the state of Palestine.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

She's a disgrace. The ambiguity and lack of sensitivity of her tweet was deliberate. Without controversy she has nothing.

Sorry if an angry blak women upset you.

 

[Frank Grimes]

She doesn't believe that at all, all age has done is support the State of Palestine.

I can understand the support for the state of Palestine, but posting that the attacks were provoked on a day where Hamas started to commit these atrocities has an inference of justifying Hamas actions.

There is no indication of condemning Hamas action in that tweet, just a justifying it.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Israeli media said the number of Israelis killed had reached 600

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I can understand the support for the state of Palestine, but posting that the attacks were provoked on a day where Hamas started to commit these atrocities has an inference of justifying Hamas actions.

There is no indication of condemning Hamas action in that tweet, just a justifying it.

Agree, it could have been a more measured statement. But she didn't show support for Hammas in any way.

 

[_Cerberus_]

Hamas needs to be wiped. But we all know from every other conflict world wide, targeting terror groups. Israel will kill hundreds of innocent civilians in an eye for eye retaliation instead, and Hamas will unfortunately still stand. The conflict just spins around in circles, rinse and repeat. The only way this will end, is one side completely wiping the other. We know Israel will come out on top in this case. The interesting thing will be the reactions of other Arab nations in the region.

Lucky Iran doesn't border Israel, would have been an all out war in the region years ago.

A lot of the footage I have seen is shocking. Hamas went way to far this time.

Curious though. Why is everyone angry about Hamas killing people? But say nothing when Israel kills Palestinians for fun?
Why is Hamas raping and killing bad? But people still get defensive about the US raping minors in Vietnam, especially My Lai. Or our SAS slitting the throats of kids in Afghanistan? Why is 9/11 bad, but killing tens of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan okay?

To me they are all equally wrong and bad. And all people who harm innocent women and children should be hung. But a lot of the world seems to okay everything, as long as its your own doing it, or your allies. People like to pick and choose when to be outraged. A wrong is a wrong, no matter who does it.

 

[RandB]

Sorry if an angry blak women upset you.

Wow, skin colour hyperbole with a dash of 'rustled jimmies'. How mindless.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Muslims and Jews despise each other and the middle east is a backwards cesspit.

It'll go on forever until either one group is wiped out forever, or everyone suddenly becomes an atheist.

Jews had lived peacefully in Arab and Muslim countries under 1400 years of Muslim rule. Zionism put an end to that

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Wow, skin colour hyperbole with a dash of 'rustled jimmies'. How mindless.

There's nothing wrong with supporting ordinary Palestinians. Also Netanyahu is a corrupt A-hole.

 

[Smeg Head]

Jews had lived peacefully in Arab and Muslim countries under 1400 years of Muslim rule. Zionism put an end to that

I mean if you are going back far enough, the Muslims are the occupiers. Irrelevant. More to do with the break up of the Ottomon Empire and the English and French drawing lines.

 

[HairyO]

She doesn't believe that at all, all she has done is support the state of Palestine.

1st step should be denouncing Hamas and anyone backing Hamas - including Palestinians.

Nothing has changed since Arafat. Added billions to his personal wealth while pretending to care about his people, lying to anyone and everyone to suit his own purposes.

They dont want peace. They dont want any agreement. They want to kill and they dont care who it is they are killing.

If the only statement anyone is making is "give peace a chance" then they are too gutless to call out what is happening.

 

[RandB]

There's nothing wrong with supporting ordinary Palestinians. Also Netanyahu is a corrupt A-hole.

I never suggested anything to the contrary.

My point, as you well know, was that she would have been aware of the controversy/insensitivity of her tweet - however controversy is part of her MO regardless of the cause she is pursuing.

Pretty simple.

The 'blak' routine was a poor choice of rebuttal.
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Mods: I realise this is going off topic, done with the Thope stuff now.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

1st step should be denouncing Hamas and anyone backing Hamas - including Palestinians.

Nothing has changed since Arafat. Added billions to his personal wealth while pretending to care about his people, lying to anyone and everyone to suit his own purposes.

They dont want peace. They dont want any agreement. They want to kill and they dont care who it is they are killing.

If the only statement anyone is making is "give peace a chance" then they are too gutless to call out what is happening.

The current Israeli government is corrupt as well. The Jewish people deserve better. Likud has played a part in all this .

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

I never suggested anything to the contrary.

My point, as you well know, was that she would have been aware of the controversy/insensitivity of her tweet - however controversy is part of her MO regardless of the cause she is pursuing.

Pretty simple.

The 'blak' routine was a poor choice of rebuttal.

She is what she is. I agree she should have denounced Hamas. Apologies .

 

[Sphynx]

It’s kicking off in Lebanon now, Hezbollah have launched a drone attack.

 

[RandB]

It’s kicking off in Lebanon now, Hezbollah have launched a drone attack.

Israeli’s are now shelling northern Lebanon with an entire artillery battery.

Northern or Southern?

 

[Sphynx]

Northern or Southern?

Southern sorry, meant northern Israel

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

It’s kicking off in Lebanon now, Hezbollah have launched a drone attack.

Fck! This is ugly and upsetting. America, Egypt and Jordan need to get together to stop this escalation of violence imo.

 

[Sphynx]

This is not good…

 

[beez]

Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

theintercept.com

Give me Medhi over any other typical mainstream Western journalist.

If anyone wants some atypical coverage that is still within the bounds of non-partisan, rational opinion, check out Medhi Hasan and Ayman Mohyeldin on MSNBC over the coming days and weeks. Even if you dislike their politics, they are both astute and well-versed in the conflict and contextualise the history of all sides for both the educated and the lay person.

 

[Smeg Head]

This is not good…

Hamas trying to get Trump reelected

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Bethan McKernan -Guardian
Across Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, divided communities have been watching scenes from the militant group Hamas’s unprecedented attack unfold with disbelief.

Until this morning, footage of Palestinian gunmen tearing down the walls and fences that have hemmed in the Gaza Strip’s 2.3 million people for the last 16 years was unthinkable – as were video and images of dazed Israeli civilians bundled into safe rooms or stolen Israel Defence Forces (IDF) vehicles, hands tied behind their backs with zip ties, and driven into Gaza to be used as bargaining chips.

“If you asked any Palestinian what the best-case scenario would be to end the occupation, they would never say something like this,” said Khaled al-Taweel, a 49-year-old from the central Gaza town of Khan Yunis. “And if you asked an Israeli what the worst case scenario would be, they would never say something like this. It feels like a movie. At the Erez crossing [between Gaza and Israel], that’s where we stand to get searched, not the other way around.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

This is not good…

Jesus Christ