Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

[Aristotle Pickett]

Netanyahu's statements are way out of control.
'What we will do to our enemies in the coming days will reverberate with them for generations.'

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

So where did you take that quote from?

Just copy it and google it. Is there something incorrect in it? I put it up for general info purposes.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Netanyahu's statements are way out of control.
'What we will do to our enemies in the coming days will reverberate with them for generations.'

not sure that statement is out of control

he has just had a terrorist organisation storm into his country and murder hundreds of citizens and take hundreds more hostages including children.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Hamas official: attack was planned by 'handful of Hamas commanders'

The Associated Press has interviewed a senior Hamas official who said only a small number of top commanders inside Gaza knew about the wide-ranging incursion launched into Israel, but that allies like Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah “will join the battle if Gaza is subjected to a war of annihilation.”

Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, spoke to The Associated Press in his Beirut office as Israel bombarded Gaza and vowed a total blockade of the Hamas-ruled territory.

Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, 9 October 2023.
Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, 9 October 2023. Photograph: Hussein Malla/AP
Barakeh said the attack was planned by around a half dozen top Hamas commanders in Gaza and that even the group’s closest allies were not informed in advance about the timing. He denied reports that Iranian security officials helped plan the attack or gave the go-ahead at a meeting last week in Beirut.

“Only a handful of Hamas commanders knew about the zero hour,” Barakeh said, adding that no one from the central command or the political bureau of Hamas was in the Lebanese capital last week.

He said even Hamas was shocked by the extent of the operation, dubbed “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm,” saying it had expected Israel to prevent or limit the attack.

“We were surprised by this great collapse,” Barakeh said. “We were planning to make some gains and take prisoners to exchange them. This army was a paper tiger.”

 

[Saint]

Hamas don't want a 2-state solution. They want martyrdom and war. And the more brutal the Israeli repression, the more control they take.

The more Hamas create wars, the more Netanyahu claims Israeli violence is justified.

The two have existed in a symbiotic relationship for nearly two decades. This is the culmination of it. Hopefully Hamas is uprooted and Netanyahu is removed for his incitement and fostering of confrontation. The genocide of Hamas should be completely removed. The lesser crime of ethnic cleansing which Israel is successfully implementing in the West Bank should also be reversed and reviled by the global community.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Hamas official: attack was planned by 'handful of Hamas commanders'

The Associated Press has interviewed a senior Hamas official who said only a small number of top commanders inside Gaza knew about the wide-ranging incursion launched into Israel, but that allies like Iran and the Lebanese Hezbollah “will join the battle if Gaza is subjected to a war of annihilation.”

Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, spoke to The Associated Press in his Beirut office as Israel bombarded Gaza and vowed a total blockade of the Hamas-ruled territory.

Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, 9 October 2023.
Ali Barakeh, a member of Hamas’ exiled leadership, speaks during an interview with The Associated Press in Beirut, Lebanon, Monday, 9 October 2023. Photograph: Hussein Malla/AP
Barakeh said the attack was planned by around a half dozen top Hamas commanders in Gaza and that even the group’s closest allies were not informed in advance about the timing. He denied reports that Iranian security officials helped plan the attack or gave the go-ahead at a meeting last week in Beirut.

“Only a handful of Hamas commanders knew about the zero hour,” Barakeh said, adding that no one from the central command or the political bureau of Hamas was in the Lebanese capital last week.

He said even Hamas was shocked by the extent of the operation, dubbed “Operation Al-Aqsa Storm,” saying it had expected Israel to prevent or limit the attack.

“We were surprised by this great collapse,” Barakeh said. “We were planning to make some gains and take prisoners to exchange them. This army was a paper tiger.”

i seriously doubt he thinks its a paper tiger right now.

 

[ShanDog]

If they wanted so badly to ‘return’ to their ancestral home, then they should’ve immigrated there and lived under Palestinian rulership. You know, like we are doing now in Australia.

There was no "Palestinian rulership" for them to emigrate to. For someone with such strong views, you don't really have a great grasp of the historical realities.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

not sure that statement is out of control

he has just had a terrorist organisation storm into his country and murder hundreds of citizens and take hundreds more hostages including children.

He's an A-hole, Israel deserve better than him. He's a far right nutter that has helped cause all this with apartheid policies and then couldn't protect the people when they were attacked.
He's also doing nothing to save the hostages.

 

[Hornberger]

Two state solution is gone for the foreseeable future. As long as Hamas hold power it’s a non starter.

Can anything be done to remove Hamas from power?

Hamas is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood and supported by Iran. This makes them the natural enemy of Egypt and Saudia Arabia.

Could Hamas by sufficiently weakened military by the Israeli offensive to allow Fatah, supported by Egypt and the Saudis to re-take control of the Gaza strip?

 

[ShanDog]

Just copy it and google it. Is there something incorrect in it? I put it up for general info purposes.

You should attribute all quotes. It's a basic courtesy as well as important for validation. Your source for it could be original or it could be five times removed.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You should attribute all quotes. It's a basic courtesy as well as important for validation. Your source for it could be original or it could be five times removed.

I have attributed it. It's all from the Guardian live blog.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

He's an A-hole, Israel deserve better than him. He's a far right nutter that has helped cause all this with apartheid policies and then couldn't protect the people when they were attacked.
He's also doing nothing to save the hostages.

im not really arguing any of that

just saying his statements aren't all that crazy. Considering what's happened.

 

[bourbons]

Why is Biden copping it on Twitter regarding weapons?
Aristotle Pickett

Republican hacks trying to leverage the situation to attack him, coz the impeachment inquiry is a huge fail and nothing else they've tried has worked.

$6B in frozen Iranian funds remain unspent in wake of Hamas attack, Blinken says

Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday the $6 billion in Iranian funds expected to be unfrozen in the U.S. prisoner swap with Iran have remained unspent, pushing back against suggestions tha…

thehill.com

Even Fox have debunked it lol

 

[Sir_Loin]

Can anything be done to remove Hamas from power?

Hamas is affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood and supported by Iran. This makes them the natural enemy of Egypt and Saudia Arabia.

Could Hamas by sufficiently weakened military by the Israeli offensive to allow Fatah, supported by Egypt and the Saudis to re-take control of the Gaza strip?

Only thing that removes Hamas from Gaza is its total destruction. But then they still have the West Bank.

It’s pretty clear that Iran and Russia are sponsoring this phase as almost a second front to the Ukraine war. We’re on a knife edge right now. In a strategic sense, Hamas is the least of the worlds problems.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

im not really arguing any of that

just saying his statements aren't all that crazy. Considering what's happened.

I see your point but he sounds like a madman at times. The military leader using phrases like 'opening up the gates of hell' are also out there.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I see your point but he sounds like a madman at times. The military leader using phrases like 'opening up the gates of hell' are also out there.

the US president said similar things post 9/11

 

[ShanDog]

I see your point but he sounds like a madman at times. The military leader using phrases like 'opening up the gates of hell' are also out there.

You'd like to think leaders would be more controlled in their speech, but perhaps that's something easy to say from the sidelines and from a totally different culture.

 

[Bloods86]

the US president said similar things post 9/11

Are we really using GWB as the benchmark for what's considered reasonable rhetoric?

 

[Froffinho]

Netanyahu's statements are way out of control.
'What we will do to our enemies in the coming days will reverberate with them for generations.'

Funny how you seem to take issue with comments by Israel's PM defending his country, but Hamas' charter and deplorable actions don't seem to warrant any attention from you. Maybe next time at least try any hide your anti-semitism.

 

[Sir_Loin]

From a victims perspective the attack at the Supernova festival was during the main set. In terms of vulnerability it couldn’t have been a worse time for them.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Are we really using GWB as the benchmark for what's considered reasonable rhetoric?

no you are missing the point

we live in Australia, thousands of kilometres from these places. its not for us to determine whats reasonable when their county is being attacked.

If there was ever a terrorist attack on our soil i guantree you our leader would be saying the exact same things as these other countries governments are.

 

[Seedsfan]

Just doesn't seem the way to make friends or influence people

Yeah and the constant indiscriminate bombing of civilians, whilst enforcing a blockade so they have no way to escape and for good measure cutting off the supply of food, water, medicine and power is a real winner. All Israel will achieve is radicalising the next generation of freedom fighters/terrorist

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Funny how you seem to take issue with comments by Israel's PM defending his country, but Hamas' charter and deplorable actions don't seem to warrant any attention from you. Maybe next time at least try any hide your anti-semitism.

Delete that accusation . I have said on numerous occasions that Hamas are racist scum.
Half the Israeli population despise Netanyahu , he is a corrupt war monger implementing apatheid policies.
The main newspaper in Israel blamed Netanyahu's policies as contributing to this. He does not represent all Jewish people. He represents a far right element.
Delete that or I'll report it.

 

[Kwality]

Just copy it and google it. Is there something incorrect in it? I put it up for general info purposes.

IF it is for general purposes you would link it. What have you (yourself personally) got to hide here ?

 

[JayJ20]

Why are you copying my statements?

No argument, just your 'feelings' on the issue?

Why don't you answer the BS I called you out on when you tried claiming Arabs only got desert and unfarmable land in the '47 proposition of a two-state system?

It's clear you've picked a side and refuse to acknowledge any information that refutes your claims and are simply putting up unprovable strawman arguments.

Bring facts, not feelings.

Because you need to answer the question I posed to you. Answer it. Bring facts, not feelings.