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It's actually not. Victoria has 26% of the nations population and just 24% of the nation's public service wages bill.
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Sttew
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Typical leftist “head in the sand” response.Nice feels, but
Law and order
The new data also reveals that Queensland and the Northern Territory are among the few states in Australia where household crime and personal crime rates have increased in the past four years.
With 55,000 cars stolen across Australia last financial year, ABS figures reveal household crimes are rising in Qld and NT
New data reveals the worst states and territories in Australia for car thefts, home invasions and other crimes during the last financial year.www.abc.net.au
Housing
First home buyers are seeing the best conditions in the nation due to someone finally taking on investors. This has also seen a reduction 8n rent costs.
First home buyers in as investors shown the door - Surf Coast Times
Good news for VIC first home buyers! More activity in the market. Investors decrease, renters increase purchases due to high rental costs. Victoria offers stable prices & lending conditions.timesnewsgroup.com.au
Roads
still work to be done to recover from the record floods in recent years, but
As part of a 10-year $6.6 billion investment, $964 million will be spent to maintain our state's road network this coming year alone – including extra funding to clean up the damage from flooding. This is nearly double the average spend of $493 million between 2010 and 2014.
Public service
wages are largely in line with population per state
Public sector employment and earnings, 2023-24 financial year
Contains estimates of public sector employees and cash wages and salaries by level of government, state and industrywww.abs.gov.au
Covid
Mistakes were made, but half our problems wouldn't have existed if the LNP had shut the borders earlier and got a hold of vaccines quicker.
Law and order in this state is a shambles and this government is too proud to admit it has ****ed it up with its bail reforms.
You’ve fallen for the “floods did all the damage” to the roads argument.
The government may have promised to spend $964M on road repairs but that makes up for successive years of fund cuts, including 67% last year. Our roads are the worst in Australia. Third world standard. And you accept that?
Wages for the public service may be in line with population growth per state, whatever that means. But facts is our public service has doubled in size under Labor and faces a $2.7B black hole this financial year. It is the biggest employer in the state and still uses consultants to make significant decisions notwithstanding we have more highly paid executives than any other state.
As for Covid, why is it that other states were so much more measured? Why did we have a sledgehammer approach? We are mocked around the world for the length of the lockdowns.
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I thought right wing posters didn’t care if we were ‘mocked around the world’
Leftist? Firstly, facts don't care about your left of right histrionics. Secondly, ALP is not left
3rd world standard roads?
You're using existing numbers, Tarneit isn't finished yet, particularly the planned higher res around train stations. Tarneit West and Tarneit North are planned with pop densities in excess of 3,000. And most of these areas aren't walking distance to a train station like almost all of Glen Waverley is.
See below, empty around the station because it's planned high/med density (plus town centre) but it isn't financially viable yet.
What are you on about. All of those empty blocks are easily walkable to the train station.
GW isn't finished yet either by the way, but the fact that's it's currently much more dense than most other suburbs is a prime reason why the SRL is going through there. It will easily push past 3000 in the next decade. It's just a step or two behind Box Hill.
Nice feels, but
Law and order
The new data also reveals that Queensland and the Northern Territory are among the few states in Australia where household crime and personal crime rates have increased in the past four years.
With 55,000 cars stolen across Australia last financial year, ABS figures reveal household crimes are rising in Qld and NT
New data reveals the worst states and territories in Australia for car thefts, home invasions and other crimes during the last financial year.
Housing
First home buyers are seeing the best conditions in the nation due to someone finally taking on investors. This has also seen a reduction 8n rent costs.
First home buyers in as investors shown the door - Surf Coast Times
Good news for VIC first home buyers! More activity in the market. Investors decrease, renters increase purchases due to high rental costs. Victoria offers stable prices & lending conditions.
Roads
still work to be done to recover from the record floods in recent years, but
As part of a 10-year $6.6 billion investment, $964 million will be spent to maintain our state's road network this coming year alone – including extra funding to clean up the damage from flooding. This is nearly double the average spend of $493 million between 2010 and 2014.
Public service
wages are largely in line with population per state
Public sector employment and earnings, 2023-24 financial year
Contains estimates of public sector employees and cash wages and salaries by level of government, state and industry
Covid
Mistakes were made, but half our problems wouldn't have existed if the LNP had shut the borders earlier and got a hold of vaccines quicker.
I like the fact you use an article from 9 months ago to prove a point, but don’t want to publish something more recent on Victoria’s soaring crime rates?
The roads are as bad as I have ever seen. Not sure anyone could possibly deny that at this point. My area (I don’t recall any floods in the eastern suburbs) has seen repairs on FTG road, and they last probably a fortnight before they are damaged again. There are potholes galore on FTG road around the Blackburn, Scoresby and FTG areas.
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Sttew
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Deliverance will have us believe that somehow the 2022 floods in rural Victoria caused damage to the entire Victorian road network. A trickle effect?
Instead of fixing that damage this government saw fit to slash road maintenance funding in the budget. Spending on road maintenance / resurfacing in 2023/2024 was 18% of what was spent the previous year, and fell from $201,4m to $38m ACROSS the state. Add to that, the government slashed the TAC's marketing and road safety budget.
But of course the government is now promising to spend a billion dollars over 10 years to fix the roads. A promise as credible as the 4,000 new ICU beds promise!
Also from that article
Despite the alarming figures, the Crime Statistics Agency stressed that population growth played a role in skewing the results. Relax Henny, the sky is not falling and we are still doing better than Qld and NSW
Recorded Crime - Offenders, 2022-23 financial year
Statistics about offenders proceeded against by police, including demographic, most serious offence, and family and domestic violence information.
www.abs.gov.au
208,359 in New South Wales
150,563 in Queensland
103,863 in Victoria
38,704 in South Australia
13,591 in the Northern Territory
13,071 in Tasmania
3,564 in the Australian Capital Territory
The numbers of proceedings increased in all published states and territories except New South Wales (down 13% or 30,075 proceedings) and Victoria (down 6% or 7,057 proceedings).
23/24 stats will be available in March
Nope, not what I claimed. Off you go with the theatrics again.
They definitely need to increase funding though. With record number of cars, trucks and extra heavy EVs, roads will be hard to maintain for any government. Can't believe those Aholes took the vic government to court over the EV road user tarrifs.
But hey, at least we're not in NSW
The sorry state of New South Wales' road network revealed
More than 15 per cent of roads in New South Wales received just one star in the latest assessment of road safety.
www.carexpert.com.au
Surprising after years of steady LNP leadership
Australia's most dangerous roads
The highways with the highest crash and fatality rates in Australia.
Was in Crazieburn today, must have been flooded as well, holy crap the main roads were terrible. Had to apologise to the international visitors I was driving for the bouncy trip.
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Crime rates always go up when the police want more money
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I’m not going to confirm or deny. I’ve said too much already
Re: the roads.
I don't live in Victoria anymore so don't give a shit who you elect. But your roads are rubbish.
Driving down to Gippsland for chrissy I went via the Monara Highway from Bombala (NSW) down to Cann River (Victoria). The NSW section of the road was smooth, well graded and maintained. The Victorian side was a pothole ridden goat-track. Several sections had the speed limit reduced to 60 due to hazards on the road. All the while driving past signs proudly proclaiming the Victorian Government's "Monaro Highway Upgrade".
I don't live in Victoria anymore so don't give a shit who you elect. But your roads are rubbish.
Driving down to Gippsland for chrissy I went via the Monara Highway from Bombala (NSW) down to Cann River (Victoria). The NSW section of the road was smooth, well graded and maintained. The Victorian side was a pothole ridden goat-track. Several sections had the speed limit reduced to 60 due to hazards on the road. All the while driving past signs proudly proclaiming the Victorian Government's "Monaro Highway Upgrade".
So crime is down in Victoria. Don't think it'll stop the Herald Sun and Libs running a crime-is-rampant campaign.Also from that article
Despite the alarming figures, the Crime Statistics Agency stressed that population growth played a role in skewing the results. Relax Henny, the sky is not falling and we are still doing better than Qld and NSW
The number of police proceedings recorded in 2022–23 were:Recorded Crime - Offenders, 2022-23 financial year
Statistics about offenders proceeded against by police, including demographic, most serious offence, and family and domestic violence information.
208,359 in New South Wales
150,563 in Queensland
103,863 in Victoria
38,704 in South Australia
13,591 in the Northern Territory
13,071 in Tasmania
3,564 in the Australian Capital Territory
The numbers of proceedings increased in all published states and territories except New South Wales (down 13% or 30,075 proceedings) and Victoria (down 6% or 7,057 proceedings).
23/24 stats will be available in March
And since facts don't matter to a lot of people or the media as much as feelings now, it'll get some traction.
Sttew
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Certain posters will mimic Labor MP's and say the conditions of roads is due to flood damage that occurred in.... 2022. That may be the case. But why is it that roads in NSW & QLD, which both receive 4X the rainfall of Victoria didn't suffer the same damage, and why haven't the roads been repaired yet?
Sttew
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I don't know how anyone could argue that crime is not up. We see clear evidence of it every day. Car thefts, house burglaries, tobacco shop fires, assaults, repeat crimes by offenders out on bail, etc. And its got nothing to do with the Herald Sun. As if the government is going to tell us that under its watch crime is up by 15%
The number of criminal incidents recorded by Victoria Police in the year to 30 September 2024 was 431,683, up 15.0% from 375,460 incidents recorded in the same period last year.
Homepage | Crime Statistics Agency Victoria
Homepage for Crime statistics
Correct, this is a year further than the ABS link.
Crimes per 100,000 population were only higher in 2016 (over the past 10 years). But still, it's pretty consistent, not a sustained upward trend. Certainly not something which is getting out of hand. It was worse, and in better financial times.
Crimes per 100,000 population were only higher in 2016 (over the past 10 years). But still, it's pretty consistent, not a sustained upward trend. Certainly not something which is getting out of hand. It was worse, and in better financial times.
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I'm convinced they do an average job on them so they can keep getting work to fix them. I doubt there is any accountability on making sure the fixes are actually long lasting
I have had my suspicions on this also..
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