Oppo Camp Jack Ginnivan (Traded to Hawks 2023)

[Kirby]

You are allowed to tackle someone by the arm. A chicken wing tackle is when you then bend the arm backwards behind the back.

Ginni just grabbed Danger's arm because it was right in front of him. It was Danger's forward momentum (dive or push) that cause his arm to go back a little. It was not Ginni's action that pushed the arm back.

You have to laugh at Derm - by bringing up an incident from the Hawks game months ago that no-one has even heard of tells you all about his motivation. He describes that as Ginni pressing his elbow (not striking) into the back of the neck of this Gamble person. Sounds like a heinous crime like I dunno.........maybe stepping on a player's head who is lying prone on the ground???? Remember that one Derm??

Of course, Derm has to chip in about how it is lucky it wasn't the old days bit (even no-one appears to have even seen this or remonstrated during the game at all) and Derm himself would have come over there and strangled him. Yep his answer is that he would have strangled Ginni.

You can't make that sort of shit up.

p.s. I love his little attempt to disguise his Hawks agenda by saying that he loved his time at the Pies and they were good to him but Ginni....blah blah. It the equivalent of someone saying "I'm not a racist because I have a black friend"

 

[DinoSoar]

You are allowed to tackle someone by the arm. A chicken wing tackle is when you then bend the arm backwards behind the back.

Ginni just grabbed Danger's arm because it was right in front of him. It was Danger's forward momentum (dive or push) that cause his arm to go back a little. It was not Ginni's action that pushed the arm back.

You have to laugh at Derm - by bringing up an incident from the Hawks game months ago that no-one has even heard of tells you all about his motivation. He describes that as Ginni pressing his elbow (not striking) into the back of the neck of this Gamble person. Sounds like a heinous crime like I dunno.........maybe stepping on a player's head who is lying prone on the ground???? Remember that one Derm??

Of course, Derm has to chip in about how it is lucky it wasn't the old days bit (even no-one appears to have even seen this or remonstrated during the game at all) and Derm himself would have come over there and strangled him. Yep his answer is that he would have strangled Ginni.

You can't make that sort of s**t up.

 

[gouki88]

You are allowed to tackle someone by the arm. A chicken wing tackle is when you then bend the arm backwards behind the back.

Ginni just grabbed Danger's arm because it was right in front of him. It was Danger's forward momentum (dive or push) that cause his arm to go back a little. It was not Ginni's action that pushed the arm back.

You have to laugh at Derm - by bringing up an incident from the Hawks game months ago that no-one has even heard of tells you all about his motivation. He describes that as Ginni pressing his elbow (not striking) into the back of the neck of this Gamble person. Sounds like a heinous crime like I dunno.........maybe stepping on a player's head who is lying prone on the ground???? Remember that one Derm??

Of course, Derm has to chip in about how it is lucky it wasn't the old days bit (even no-one appears to have even seen this or remonstrated during the game at all) and Derm himself would have come over there and strangled him. Yep his answer is that he would have strangled Ginni.

You can't make that sort of s**t up.

p.s. I love his little attempt to disguise his Hawks agenda by saying that he loved his time at the Pies and they were good to him but Ginni....blah blah. It the equivalent of someone saying "I'm not a racist because I have a black friend"

Yeah, Ginnivan was the victim of a genuine chicken wing tackle earlier in the season. The tackle on Dangerfield is nothing of the sort.

Newsflash everyone, there's some inherent danger in a high-paced contact sport!

 

[OEP MKII]

Interesting Dangerfield comments on Ginnivan were -
“It’s important when you’re in a vulnerable position as a player, you’ve got a responsibility to treat players with care,” the Brownlow medallist said on Wednesday.
Yet where was that "care" when he bumped Jake Kelly

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late and when he continued his tackle on Matthew Kreuzer

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long after he'd released the ball and, while pinning both his arms, slammed his head into the ground.

 

[JM#1]

 

[JoinDate]

I think we've established Patrick Dangerfield is a campaigner.

 

[sr36]

You are allowed to tackle someone by the arm. A chicken wing tackle is when you then bend the arm backwards behind the back.

Ginni just grabbed Danger's arm because it was right in front of him. It was Danger's forward momentum (dive or push) that cause his arm to go back a little. It was not Ginni's action that pushed the arm back.

You have to laugh at Derm - by bringing up an incident from the Hawks game months ago that no-one has even heard of tells you all about his motivation. He describes that as Ginni pressing his elbow (not striking) into the back of the neck of this Gamble person. Sounds like a heinous crime like I dunno.........maybe stepping on a player's head who is lying prone on the ground???? Remember that one Derm??

Of course, Derm has to chip in about how it is lucky it wasn't the old days bit (even no-one appears to have even seen this or remonstrated during the game at all) and Derm himself would have come over there and strangled him. Yep his answer is that he would have strangled Ginni.

You can't make that sort of s**t up.

p.s. I love his little attempt to disguise his Hawks agenda by saying that he loved his time at the Pies and they were good to him but Ginni....blah blah. It the equivalent of someone saying "I'm not a racist because I have a black friend"

**** knows if Ginnivan was doing what Dermie claims. But I'm pretty confident that it's only the dumb arrogant blokes like Dermie and Danger who could be too stupid to have any doubt and had completely made up their mind thus completely ignoring that Adams crashed the pack and caused them all to shift straight after Ginnivan grabbed Danger's arm.

 

[tenderwarrior]

If there wasn't that ridiculous umpiring change for a month where he could basically be strangled without repercussion he might have kicked 40.

... maybe even 50

 

[tenderwarrior]

I think we've established Patrick Dangerfield is a campaigner.

I think that was established long before

 

[JuniorB]

From Damo on the AFL website:

IF ...​

Jack Ginnivan has had so many people publicly coming at him over the course of 2022 ...

THEN ...​

he probably thought the president of the AFLPA wouldn't be joining the chorus. Paddy Dangerfield may well have had very good reason to angrily query how Ginnivan tackled him last weekend, but as the playing head of the players' group, maybe he could've restricted his views to private phone calls, not news grabs.

 

[jonbe54]

From Damo on the AFL website:

IF ...​

Jack Ginnivan has had so many people publicly coming at him over the course of 2022 ...

THEN ...​

he probably thought the president of the AFLPA wouldn't be joining the chorus. Paddy Dangerfield may well have had very good reason to angrily query how Ginnivan tackled him last weekend, but as the playing head of the players' group, maybe he could've restricted his views to private phone calls, not news grabs.

Danger's exposed attitude explains why the AFLPA has sat on it's thumbs whilst a young player is victimized.

 

[gouki88]

From Damo on the AFL website:

IF ...​

Jack Ginnivan has had so many people publicly coming at him over the course of 2022 ...

THEN ...​

he probably thought the president of the AFLPA wouldn't be joining the chorus. Paddy Dangerfield may well have had very good reason to angrily query how Ginnivan tackled him last weekend, but as the playing head of the players' group, maybe he could've restricted his views to private phone calls, not news grabs.

You know it’s bad when Damo picks you up on it

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

 

[Anzacday]

Great article on our boy Jack.

Who is Jack Ginnivan? We delved into his TikTok (and beyond) to find out

He’s a compulsive hugger with a big-game temperament. What makes Collingwood’s Jack Ginnivan the most polarising player in the AFL?

www.theage.com.au

 

[Jen2310]

Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

 

[JuniorB]

Great article on our boy Jack.

Who is Jack Ginnivan? We delved into his TikTok (and beyond) to find out

He’s a compulsive hugger with a big-game temperament. What makes Collingwood’s Jack Ginnivan the most polarising player in the AFL?

www.theage.com.au

Bottom line - he's a bloody good kid.

 

[Think Goodly]

Bottom line - he's a bloody good kid.

Just read it - great article. You have to give it to Kane Cornes for turning around his view on Ginnivan. I love it that Gina's Tin Tok avatar is Cornes' head!

Most important is how much he is loved by all his team mates past and present, the coaches and us supporters.

Anything outside that is just white noise (pasty white in the case of Dangerfield - the soon to be ex-president of the Players union)

 

[ExcitementMachine]

Just read it - great article. You have to give it to Kane Cornes for turning around his view on Ginnivan. I love it that Gina's Tin Tok avatar is Cornes' head!

Most important is how much he is loved by all his team mates past and present, the coaches and us supporters.

Anything outside that is just white noise (pasty white in the case of Dangerfield - the soon to be ex-president of the Players union)

Yep, too true.
And what a shocking statement made by dangerfield this week.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Great article on our boy Jack.

Who is Jack Ginnivan? We delved into his TikTok (and beyond) to find out

He’s a compulsive hugger with a big-game temperament. What makes Collingwood’s Jack Ginnivan the most polarising player in the AFL?

www.theage.com.au

Ginnivan, of course, took the mickey right back. At everyone. “I think what’s polarising about him is that he does love to get under the opposition’s skin, and that includes the spectators,” Coburn says. “He’s pretty cheeky, there’s no doubt about that, he’s good on the banter side of the game, but I always enjoyed coaching kids with a bit of personality.”

A runner for the Gold Coast Suns tells of dashing out to defence at Metricon Stadium in round 16. Ginnivan sized him up. “Ooooh! It’s the RUNNER, here to deliver a VERY IMPORTANT MESSAGE from Stuey Dew!” he said in a sing-song voice. The runner was so taken aback that he had no comeback. “I was like, yeah, I am actually. He’s got me there,” he says.

Jack

 

[loki04]

He's a bloody legend, he has bought some showmanship and character back to an often very stale and oversanitised game.

He's a player that gets people through the gates just to watch him play. AFL and umps doing there best to shoot him down though.

 

[NMBB]

Yep, too true.
And what a shocking statement made by dangerfield this week.

If there's any integrity to be had as the Head of Players Assocn., Dangerfield shredded it with that statement.

Given the role Dangerfield has it was an appalling statement replete with conflict of interest and someone needs to point that out to him.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Anyone feel he extenuated the contact? I initially thought it was a push but got told by other Collingwood supporters he milked it. Haven’t revisited it to check.

Him “milking it” is wrong. While he may have windmilled his arms it was due to being pushed forward. It was clearly a free.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Might be my rose coloured glasses but looks to me like Ginni just grabs Dangerfield's arm and 1 second later Adams crashes into Dangerfield thrusting him forward.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ginnivan-chicken-wing-tackle-infuriates-dangerfield/video/aa8d755289b210ce2df8673c04598bc5

Danger tried to escape as well pushing his body away at an angle prior to Adams contact which seems to have made Ginni’s hold look actually worse than it was.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Watch what happens when someone bent over goes head first at the tackler. The Ump calls play on and then when he eventually blows his whistle for a stoppage, the tackler still has him high. The tackler isn't expected to readjust the tackle.

I didn't see that one like the Redman one. I just thought he held on after Ginni forced the tackle high. I didn't see it as a malicious secondary headlock.

You’re mistaking maintaining the high contact in a continuing contest with what occurred in this instance. Danger had cleared the footy, the high contact was maintained well beyond that.

 

[sr36]

You’re mistaking maintaining the high contact in a continuing contest with what occurred in this instance. Danger had cleared the footy, the high contact was maintained well beyond that.

I'm not going to bother anymore with that one, except to say that Ginni grabbed Tuohy's arm pulled it to his own throat and than arched at the player so his head continued to push into his chest. It was really good umpiring. Technically, if there was a free there, it was for Ginni grabbing Tuohy's arm

I think we got really unlucky with holding the ball in that match, but that was a good call.