Traded Jack Lukosius - Joins Port Adelaide as part of a 3-way trade with Collingwood and Gold Coast

[halfback dasher]

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[Runnin Blue]

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[drcollossimo]

Will be a crow
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Both clubs seasons have been done for a month why no trade request?

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Both clubs seasons have been done for a month why no trade request?

How many times does it have to be repeated that a player can absolutely request a trade to a club still playing finals it happened twice this month at least.

 

[Cromulant]

Both clubs seasons have been done for a month why no trade request?

Clubs stage manage things a great deal. Won't announce a trade request (to Port or Crows) until they've worked out exactly how its going to work

 

[jackag24]

How many times does it have to be repeated that a player can absolutely request a trade to a club still playing finals it happened twice this month at least.

It can be done.. i think most people are just wondering why it hasn't been done if that's the case?

I think it's obvious that he's waiting on the offer from Port.

I don't get why people just keep going back and forth in these trade threads lol just wait till he's made a decision

 

[Shifty Crow]

Both clubs seasons have been done for a month why no trade request?

Mate

It’s Captain obvious

A player who is contracted usually does not request a trade until he and his manager is confident that the key elements of the trade has been agreed


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[ABAB]

Both clubs seasons have been done for a month why no trade request?

An ITK poster who was confident Lukosius will be a Crow months ago mentioned a few weeks ago that only the Crows will prevent the trade happening so likely GCS only offer a straight swap of F1 and then a "prominent" 5AA caller mentioned this week that GCS has offered pick 20 as well and that Lukosius will be traded to the Crows. If true then we are absorbing the entire $2M for the next 2 years and can hold out for their pick 13.

 

[jackag24]

Prominent 5AA caller lol

 

[ABAB]

Prominent 5AA caller lol

That's why I put them in double quotes, some say he has been spot on with his "calls" in the past so who knows but it does add up with what the ITK poster said which I initially thought was strange since I interpret that as GCS was asking us for picks despite them trying to get rid of $2M from their salary cap but it's the other way around.

 

[jackag24]

That's why I put them in double quotes, some say he has been spot on with his "calls" in the past so who knows but it does add up with what the ITK poster said which I initially thought was strange since I interpret that as GCS was asking us for picks despite them trying to get rid of $2M from their salary cap but it's the other way around.

There is just too many "ITK" posters claiming opposite things here for me to take any of them seriously.

Part of me thinks it's just people who want to engage with other people on this forum

I think we just wait to see what Jack decides. Shouldn't be much longer

 

[ABAB]

There is just too many "ITK" posters claiming opposite things here for me to take any of them seriously.

Part of me thinks it's just people who want to engage with other people on this forum

I think we just wait to see what Jack decides. Shouldn't be much longer

Your ITK posters only said Lukosius tour Port Power's facility, so did Dawson but he met with the Crows first as we put the work into him many months ago and Port Power's interest only came late when he tour the facility. I'm seeing the same situation with Lukosius.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Prominent 5AA caller lol

his Dad?

 

[1990crow]

Prominent 5AA caller lol

Sleeven prowe

 

[WilloTree]

Prominent 5AA caller lol

Kane from Glenelg is on the line, Morning Kane...go ahead.

 

[Golumless]

ok but seriously that would be stupid on the camry crows behalf why blow that much coin for what will be a third tall for them??

if the Camry crows have that space in the cap if its not going to a gun mid theyre uppercutting themselves in the face

Yeah, I agree, this one just seems like it's more likely to blow up in Adelaide's face then be a smart signing.

After all, it's not like bringing in Luko is your set-and-forget third tall, because a roaming third tall defeats the purpose of having a third tall, which is to take a deep defender away from your main guys. It's either committing Adelaide to a four tall set-up, you've got a third tall who might look good on a stat sheet - but creates structural problems - or it forces Luko into either a wing or half back role. Very damned if you do, damned if you don't, and we're paying a lot of money/salary for the damned if you, damned if you don't scenario. The only thing that might save this deal from itself is if the form Thilthorpe showed in the back-end of the year, where he was ragdolling defenders, is legit. But still, it's a razor fine margin to make that work even with because of the loss of pressure from your forward line.

The only solace is the money is better spent then unspent, and saying "not going to a gun mid" doesn't matter if you've tried and failed to lure one.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Of those 4 how many of them will actually make it, and in Soldos case... actually be there longer than next year ??

Lord yes, the rest.... well they're long odds.

I rate Visintini higher than Lord.

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[Cromulant]

I rate Visintini higher than Lord.

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Not as a pure forward though, nor is Soldo.

 

[drcollossimo]

Mate

It’s Captain obvious

A player who is contracted usually does not request a trade until he and his manager is confident that the key elements of the trade has been agreed


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That actually doesn't actually answer my question do you seriously think trades are only done now?

They’ve been negotiating for months by this point

On balance his lack of commitment favours coming to us or staying imho

Yeah, I agree, this one just seems like it's more likely to blow up in Adelaide's face than be a smart signing.

After all, it's not like bringing in Luko is your set-and-forget third tall, because a roaming third tall defeats the purpose of having a third tall, which is to take a deep defender away from your main guys. It's either committing Adelaide to a four tall set-up, you've got a third tall who might look good on a stat sheet - but creates structural problems - or it forces Luko into either a wing or half back role. Very damned if you do, damned if you don't, and we're paying a lot of money/salary for the damned if you, damned if you don't scenario. The only thing that might save this deal from itself is if the form Thilthorpe showed in the back-end of the year, where he was ragdolling defenders, is legit. But still, it's a razor fine margin to make that work even with because of the loss of pressure from your forward line.

The only solace is the money is better spent then unspent, and saying "not going to a gun mid" doesn't matter if you've tried and failed to lure one.

Fair enough you do have to have the option to spend the cash but it’s not all said and done this off season

Paying close to a million for a nice to have player will at some stage impinge on the Crows ability to attract said midfielder when the option is there is my point and/or restrict your ability to retain the balance of young talent you have

It’s a move that makes perfect sense for us and little for you

 

[ABAB]

That actually doesn't actually answer my question do you seriously think trades are only done now?

They’ve been negotiating for months by this point

On balance his lack of commitment favours coming to us or staying imho


Fair enough you do have to have the option to spend the cash but it’s not all said and done this off season

Paying close to a million for a nice to have player will at some stage impinge on the Crows ability to attract said midfielder when the option is there is my point and/or restrict your ability to retain the balance of young talent you have

It’s a move that makes perfect sense for us and little for you

So now you see we have a core of quality youngsters coming through, I thought our list was shit to Port Power supporters lol.

 

[drcollossimo]

So now you see we have a core of quality youngsters coming through, I thought our list was shit to Port Power supporters lol.

It’s a unbalanced list robbing half forward and half back because it has no midfield that does not mean there isn’t talent in other parts of the ground

Regardless, the demographic of your list and its age means a proportionally higher number of players will be expecting pay rises as their experience grows it’s really not hard to understand

Ask yourself would you rather give a player like Curtin more cash now and lock him down or pay a kings ransom for a third tall just to spit on Port?

If I supported the Camry crows I know what I’d pick

 

[ABAB]

It’s a unbalanced list robbing half forward and half back because it has no midfield that does not mean there isn’t talent in other parts of the ground

Regardless, the demographic of your list and its age means a proportionally higher number of players will be expecting pay rises as their experience grows it’s really not hard to understand

Ask yourself would you rather give a player like Curtin more cash now and lock him down or pay a kings ransom for a third tall just to spit on Port?

If I supported the Camry crows I know what I’d pick

We've always been tracking Rankine and Lukosius after they got drafted to GCS so it isn't out of "spit", they've been our target and we got Rankine back a few years ago. Lukosius is young and will clearly replace Walker who is physically cooked and $900K is really $750K after the significant CBA increase anyway.

 

[Crow till I die]

It’s a unbalanced list robbing half forward and half back because it has no midfield that does not mean there isn’t talent in other parts of the ground

Regardless, the demographic of your list and its age means a proportionally higher number of players will be expecting pay rises as their experience grows it’s really not hard to understand

Ask yourself would you rather give a player like Curtin more cash now and lock him down or pay a kings ransom for a third tall just to spit on Port?

If I supported the Camry crows I know what I’d pick

I made a similar comment on our board. If getting Luko in anyway diminishes the role and place in the side Curtin has and need to have going forward, then its a big no from me. Curtin is a guy that could be anything as he has the complete skill package and holding him long term should be priority number 1. If getting Luko complimented Curtins role or has no impact on his role, then great, go get him.

 

[sunsofanarchy]

I made a similar comment on our board. If getting Luko in anyway diminishes the role and place in the side Curtin has and need to have going forward, then its a big no from me. Curtin is a guy that could be anything as he has the complete skill package and holding him long term should be priority number 1. If getting Luko complimented Curtins role or has no impact on his role, then great, go get him.

Dan Curtin!? Could be the next Fischer McAsey

 

[Crow till I die]

Dan Curtin!? Could be the next Fischer McAsey

So could mac andrew