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Considering Kennedy is leading the Coleman race I think you are deadset wrong.Fair assessment.
Top 3, at times top 2. Buddy being 1. This year ATM I only think Roughhead is playing better.
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Considering Kennedy is leading the Coleman race I think you are deadset wrong.Fair assessment.
Top 3, at times top 2. Buddy being 1. This year ATM I only think Roughhead is playing better.
Considering Kennedy is leading the Coleman race I think you are deadset wrong.
Mate you are absolutely kidding yourself. I've seen enough of darling to know he is no where near a player of jacks standing. In the future maybe, but at the moment no where near it. Jack isn't just in the top 5 for key forwards, he is number 1. Go look at his numbers before making such ridiculous calls.If Darling or Cameron played in Victoria no one would be questioning either of them being talked about in the top 5 KPF's in the competition. Out of interest, how many games have you seen Darling play?
It's a shame that Riewoldt hasn't played any finals. Because if you add them in then Franklin moves to 227.
Even if you don't add in finals, Franklin has played 10 less games during that time.
In fact, Franklin has easily averaged more than J Riewoldt since the OP.
We can all manipulate stats for our own purposes.
Didn't seem that way to me. Also, acronyms don't constitute an argument no matter how obnoxious.By 1 goal dude, come on LMFAO.
@RonTheBear put you in your place.
It's a shame that Riewoldt hasn't played any finals. Because if you add them in then Franklin moves to 227.
Even if you don't add in finals, Franklin has played 10 less games during that time.
In fact, Franklin has easily averaged more than J Riewoldt since the OP.
We can all manipulate stats for our own purposes.
the best full forward in the game by a long margin. Very VERY consistent too might I add.
Mate you are absolutely kidding yourself. I've seen enough of darling to know he is no where near a player of jacks standing. In the future maybe, but at the moment no where near it. Jack isn't just in the top 5 for key forwards, he is number 1. Go look at his numbers before making such ridiculous calls.
Show the most effective key forward in the game the respect he deserves
Yep except for goals, assists and score involvements then yea you are spot on they are heaps better than Riewoldt at being forwards.Kennedy is a beast. Would say him and Roughead have been the best KPF's this season IMO.
Yep except for goals, assists and score involvements then yea you are spot on they are heaps better than Riewoldt at being forwards.
But hey who gives
It's all well and good to have an opinion but it doesn't make it particularly factual.
You'd be in the minority to take him ahead of Kennedy and Cameron.
Off you go, looks like you have a heap of stats to look up.Doesn't Kennedy have more goals per game though? And he's averaging less time on ground I'm pretty sure. If all we're looking at is stats then it's worthwhile ensuring the same baseline is used... like minutes played.
You'd take Kennedy and Cameron in front of a dual Coleman Medallist, with a possibility of going for a third at the end of this year?
Only on Bigfooty.
Really - that's verrrrrrry hard. KPF's are much harder to find than mids. But mids at Cotchin's level are very hard to find. The midfield is more important than KPFs - but that's why you have 9 or 10 of them.A question for Richmond supporters: If you could only keep one of Riewoldt or Cotchin, who would you pick?
You need to read the rest of the thread. I rate Jack. I already said I was playing Devil's Advocate, and I don't think there's anything ridiculous about an argument being made for Darling being a top 5 forward... If he played for a Victorian club he'd be being talked up as a top 5 forward by supporters of whichever club he played for, without a doubt. In the same way that if Wingard played for Collingwood (for example) people would consider him a lock for AA, instead of an outside chance. Out of interest, how many of Darling's 50 or so games have you seen?
Really - that's verrrrrrry hard. KPF's are much harder to find than mids. But mids at Cotchin's level are very hard to find. The midfield is more important than KPFs - but that's why you have 9 or 10 of them.
I think Cotchin is better, but Jack would be harder to replace. Looking at our kids coming through, we have a bit of a blank spot with up-and-coming KPFs, while we have quite a few mids (although no obvious Cotchins). It would be a team list balance exercise.
The good thing is, we'd get pretty good trade value for either. Put a gun to my head.......aaaargh......... I'll trade Nahas. Hey, you need him - he can play mid AND forward!
Actually the West Coast guy is 100% correct, Cameron is daylight ahead as the individual option, Kennedy a true leading forward who can play a power role, and JR is an extremely elite floater.
in terms of structure, as stand alone players Kennedy and cameron clearly better
JR as a individual player is not as credentialed as a stand alone forward but his speciality is gelling with other forward lines such as another key forward. We do not see this because RFC forward line is so barren in the key forward area
I hate these kind of comments. People thinking it is the old days when every team played on Saturday arvo and there is no TV coverage. This rhetorical question is just a wanky way of saying..."i don't think you have seen as much of him as me". NEWSFLASH...everyone has foxtel and is aware of how good Darling, Wingard and co are. Darling is no where near the top 5 KPF at the moment. The following are all ahead of him:
BUDDY, ROUGHEAD, RIEWOLDT, RIEWOLDT, KENNEDY, CLOKE, HAWKINS, CAMERON, PETRIE, SCHULZ
This is no slight on Darling as he is only young and will push into that bracket eventually you would expect.
Must be why he won those 2 Colemans as a stand alone forward.