Jack Riewoldt will be the AFL's best KPF in 2012

[scotty13]

If Rich can find this draft coming up another kid that can pick up a tall forward option, then I think Jack can be a great/awesome prospect in the next 10yrs...
If he is the only person in the forward line to be able to stand up and kick goals however then he may just be like an Anthony Rocca type player... In the long run I think he needs support... and Im sure he will get it... Hardwick even commented that they will look for someone this draft to help Jack.

 

[Dustin Credible]

We have Ben Griffiths who hopefully can be the other tall target up forward.

 

[73tiger]

whats kpf stand for

 

[Dustin Credible]

key position forward = kpf

 

[Papa Juggs]

The amount of space that this bloke is given is simply because Richmond isn't dangerous enough to kick a winning score even when he kicks a bag.

 

[chef]

Name me 2 KPF that are under 190 cm.

Mitch Hahn and Scott Welsh

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Think a few might be over the top in both directions :
Facts are that it is possibly the first time in his career where he isn't two poor games away from being dropped !!
Weight , Height , KPF who gives , does a player have to be picked at FF or CHF in the side named on a Thursday every week to win the Coleman ?
Those who have viewed a bit of footy would appreciate he has displayed enough in recent times to be a very good and perhaps elite player , however once he's done that over two seasons I think he can start to be compared with the best forwards in the league not 1 month .
I hope he remains in this form and hope by 2013 he is struggling for a game as it will mean the Tiges are in great shape !!

 

[StonesThrow]

Wow what has happened in two weeks? I went away and now threads on Jack Riewoldt? Must have shown heaps. Guess he is only young. Taylor Walker is younger!!!!!!!!

 

[Bomberman86]

Im disgusted in this thread:

From an Essendon supporters perspective you didnt think to consider Scott Gumbleton or Michael Hurley?

Or even from a logical perspective you didnt think to consider Josh Kennedy, Kurt Tippet (maligned, but potential nonetheless), Henderson (will get much better with game time), Jarrod Grant? There are many more.. poor thread.

 

[Xtreme]

I doubt he will get to his cousins heights.

Nick is the best KPF in the game currently and bar 2007 has been for the past 5 or so seasons.

Long way to go before Jack is able to mention 'better' to his cousin over a sustained period of time.

He's more of a man's man, compared to Nick......

 

[King Of The Hille]

Im disgusted in this thread:

From an Essendon supporters perspective you didnt think to consider Scott Gumbleton or Michael Hurley?

Or even from a logical perspective you didnt think to consider Josh Kennedy, Kurt Tippet (maligned, but potential nonetheless), Henderson (will get much better with game time), Jarrod Grant? There are many more.. poor thread.

Just becasuse I am an Essendon supporter doesnt mean I have to be biased towards my side.

I rate both Gumby and Hurley exremely highly FYIM.

However I have never seen such an exciting forward like Riewoldt. Fast, Athletic and able to jump. Could turn out to be a once in a generation player.

 

[qldbluesman_43]

Without taking anything away from him because his last few weeks have been brilliant but to make a call like that I would want a little more to go on than a few weeks. Many players have looked to be guns for one season and then fallen away.

Also the playing in a bad team argument goes both ways. Sure not as much forward delivery etc. but also nobody else to share the spoils with. He's the focal point. Not many other young KPF would have had that opportunity. Just look at Jesse White, he looked like he would be a gun the second half of last season when he was FF, the focus of the forward line. Now with Bradshaw in the team, taking the focus he's lost.

IMO he'll definately be a quality player but there's a lot to prove yet.

 

[SolidTiger]

He is only equal 3rd and 4 goals from the coleman leader at the moment. Would love it if he can win it, but I don't think he will.

He has kicked 16 goals in the last three games. I just hope he keeps up this form.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Just becasuse I am an Essendon supporter doesnt mean I have to be biased towards my side.

I rate both Gumby and Hurley exremely highly FYIM.

However I have never seen such an exciting forward like Riewoldt. Fast, Athletic and able to jump. Could turn out to be a once in a generation player.

Lol

The guy has kicked 80 something goals in 50 odd games and before this year was a spud... Just because he kicks a few goals in games where he is their only target and given an enormous amount of space doesn't mean he will be anywhere near the best KP players in the game.

You call youself a Tier 1 poster but I'm actually embarrassed for you by this thread.

By the way Franklin had 221 goals at the same age as Jack and double the average. And Frankos faster, taller, already kicked bags, already kicked 100 in a season, Gary Lyon called him the best athlete to ever play the game, won his side a premiership etc etc etc.

Please StantonLegend. Stop posting deluded drivel over an above average footballer who is going through a purple patch. There will probably be 10 better Key Forwards in the game at 2012.

I don't think anybody can possibly take your posts seriously anymore.

 

[Barnzy]

The guy has kicked 80 something goals in 50 odd games

Wrong. He's kicked 92 goals in 57. If you're going to troll at least get your facts straight. 32 last year in 20 games, 35 already this year in 11 games.

and before this year was a spud...

According to who? You?

Riewoldt has never been a spud. Only delusional opposition supporters who have no idea and have never watched him play. I've been labelling him a future superstar since he basically started.

Just because he kicks a few goals in games where he is their only target and given an enormous amount of space doesn't mean he will be anywhere near the best KP players in the game.

"Given an enormous amount of space". Please watch him before you comment. He's been plucking huge contested marks out of massive packs all year.

There will probably be 10 better Key Forwards in the game at 2012.

Considering Jack is currently 4th in the Coleman medal and in the handful of best key forwards this year already as a 21 year old I'd like to see you name 10 that will be better than him in 2012. This will be a laugh.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Wrong. He's kicked 92 goals in 57. If you're going to troll at least get your facts straight. 32 last year in 20 games, 35 already this year in 11 games.



According to who? You?

Riewoldt has never been a spud. Only delusional opposition supporters who have no idea and have never watched him play. I've been labelling him a future superstar since he basically started.



"Given an enormous amount of space". Please watch him before you comment. He's been plucking huge contested marks out of massive packs all year.




Considering Jack is currently 4th in the Coleman medal and in the handful of best key forwards this year already as a 21 year old I'd like to see you name 10 that will be better than him in 2012. This will be a laugh.

You really think based on 5 or 6 games he's one of the best Key Forwards in the comp don't you? Better than guys who have been what he does and more for much longer

I'm not tyring to troll. Before this year he was an average footballer with above average marking ability and below average kicking, playing in one of the worst sides of all time. That's Fact.

I'm happy he has had a few good games and he is doing his job this season. I hope he can continue this form for a couple of years and establish himself as a very good player.

Before he does though, it's all speculation. And speculation based on very little evidence is often wrong. Kurt Tippett anyone?

 

[Barnzy]

You really think based on 5 or 6 games he's one of the best Key Forwards in the comp don't you? Better than guys who have been what he does and more for much longer

Past reputations don't mean much for this year. On performance yes, he's easily in the top handful of key forwards this year at only 21 years of age.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Past reputations don't mean much for this year. On performance yes, he's easily in the top handful of key forwards this year at only 21 years of age.

Well for Richmonds sake, I hope he can turn himself into one of the best key forwards consistently over a number of years

 

[King Of The Hille]

Lol

The guy has kicked 80 something goals in 50 odd games and before this year was a spud... Just because he kicks a few goals in games where he is their only target and given an enormous amount of space doesn't mean he will be anywhere near the best KP players in the game.

Before this year was a spud? Did you watch any of his games last season? Kangaroos, Essendon?

You call youself a Tier 1 poster but I'm actually embarrassed for you by this thread.

If you dont like the thread then why do you waste your time by posting in it moron? I think the call is quite relevant, and if you read some of the post in the thread you will see im not alone.

By the way Franklin had 221 goals at the same age as Jack and double the average. And Frankos faster, taller, already kicked bags, already kicked 100 in a season, Gary Lyon called him the best athlete to ever play the game, won his side a premiership etc etc etc.

Do I care about Franklin? Is this thread about Franklin? Franklin is too busy getting suspended every second week to be considered. This guys good is amazing, but when he isnt on he isnt the 'superstar' people make him out to be.

Please StantonLegend. Stop posting deluded drivel over an above average footballer who is going through a purple patch. There will probably be 10 better Key Forwards in the game at 2012.

10 Key Forwards better than him in 2012, tell me them Einstein.

I don't think anybody can possibly take your posts seriously anymore.


Look forward to bumping this when you have egg all over your face. If you dont like my threads/posts, why comment on them?

In bold.

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

Lol

The guy has kicked 80 something goals in 50 odd games and before this year was a spud... Just because he kicks a few goals in games where he is their only target and given an enormous amount of space doesn't mean he will be anywhere near the best KP players in the game.

You call youself a Tier 1 poster but I'm actually embarrassed for you by this thread.

By the way Franklin had 221 goals at the same age as Jack and double the average. And Frankos faster, taller, already kicked bags, already kicked 100 in a season, Gary Lyon called him the best athlete to ever play the game, won his side a premiership etc etc etc.

Please StantonLegend. Stop posting deluded drivel over an above average footballer who is going through a purple patch. There will probably be 10 better Key Forwards in the game at 2012.

I don't think anybody can possibly take your posts seriously anymore.

Are you seriously ******ed?

StantonLegend makes better posts than your uneducated drivel.

For some idiotic reason, I sense through your posts that as a Hawthorn supporter, you are trying to 'mark' Buddy's turf and discredit Riewoldt because of it. No other Hawthorn supporter feels the need to do that, because hey - there is enough room for another good KPP.

Both players are very good and you can't call it a purple patch when he is 21 because he is developing and reaching his potential, that's what we call it!

I could swing things at you and say that Buddy had a purple patch in all of 2008, he is not even in the top few goalkickers in the league right now! So was the entire 2008 season a purple patch for Buddy? Of course not, because you are a Hawthorn supporter and you will defend him because of it. When it's obviously clear he had not hit that mark for a year or two.

Riewoldt is a gun, hopefully he stays consistent, and you can bugger off

 

[King Of The Hille]

Are you seriously ******ed?

StantonLegend makes better posts than your uneducated drivel.

For some idiotic reason, I sense through your posts that as a Hawthorn supporter, you are trying to 'mark' Buddy's turf and discredit Riewoldt because of it. No other Hawthorn supporter feels the need to do that, because hey - there is enough room for another good KPP.

Both players are very good and you can't call it a purple patch when he is 21 because he is developing and reaching his potential, that's what we call it!

I could swing things at you and say that Buddy had a purple patch in all of 2008, he is not even in the top few goalkickers in the league right now! So was the entire 2008 season a purple patch for Buddy? Of course not, because you are a Hawthorn supporter and you will defend him because of it. When it's obviously clear he had not hit that mark for a year or two.

Riewoldt is a gun, hopefully he stays consistent, and you can bugger off

HyperAggresiveDonk is fail.

 

[theyellowsash]

the difference between guys like tippet, westhoff and reiwoldt is that the first two really exploded in their second and first years respectively and clearly outperformed jack, but its these sorts of players that tend to become flash in the pan players as they get more attention and struggle to match their output. there have been many many other players who show this too, a lot from us i can name which is dissapointing and one reason our talent (because they were all talented) hasnt developed over the years.

opposite to this is players like fev, brown, st nick who always had similar talent to the blokes who burst onto the scene, but built up much more slowly and because of this developed a lot more consistency. jack is this type of player, he has been building slowly but consistently, and its that consistency that really divides the stars from the good.

the difference between buddy and jack in 2-3 years i think will be jack will perform consistently brilliant while franklin will perform inconsistently amazing. the reiwoldt/brown/fev/pav comparisons of this generation will be reiwoldtP)/buddy/hurley and maybe watts and walker in a few years.

 

[Gazza_11]

He's come a long way in the last few years. Just in 2008 he missed after the siren against the Saints and now he's gotten some revenge by kicking six. Along with Taylor Walker, Jack Watts, Michael Hurley, Gumbleton, Tippett etc he's going to be one of the Coleman contenders in a few years

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

Are you seriously ******ed?

StantonLegend makes better posts than your uneducated drivel.

For some idiotic reason, I sense through your posts that as a Hawthorn supporter, you are trying to 'mark' Buddy's turf and discredit Riewoldt because of it. No other Hawthorn supporter feels the need to do that, because hey - there is enough room for another good KPP.

Both players are very good and you can't call it a purple patch when he is 21 because he is developing and reaching his potential, that's what we call it!

I could swing things at you and say that Buddy had a purple patch in all of 2008, he is not even in the top few goalkickers in the league right now! So was the entire 2008 season a purple patch for Buddy? Of course not, because you are a Hawthorn supporter and you will defend him because of it. When it's obviously clear he had not hit that mark for a year or two.

Riewoldt is a gun, hopefully he stays consistent, and you can bugger off

******ed? All class you are mate and Look forward to your card..

Secondly PLEASE stop stalking me you weirdo. It's got beyond a joke.

Thirdly. Are you and StantonLEGEND on together? Pretty passionate post sticking up for a Essendon supporter?

 

[King Of The Hille]

******ed? All class you are mate and Look forward to your card..

Secondly PLEASE stop stalking me you weirdo. It's got beyond a joke.

Thirdly. Are you and StantonLEGEND on together? Pretty passionate post sticking up for a Essendon supporter?

I actually had respect for you HAD, but now you have lost all the credibility you had.

Not only are you ignorant on the fact that JR8 will be one of the top players in the competition, you decide to involve one of your own players in the argument and compare their careers when they are clearly two completely different players. You are then offended when opposition supporters disagree with your views and proceed to have a hissy fit.

Are you upset that the football world has gotten over Franklin? Are you upset that he hasnt lived up to 2008 so far in his career? Are you upset that Hawthorn are no longer a legitimate finals contender?

Regardless of the answer to the questions above, I ask you to not further derail the thread. If you have something constructive to add to the argument, then by all means go ahead.

This is not the Bay.