I think if we keep him at the Saints next year that he'll retire. He wants to be closer to his family I get that.
He'll end up at Geelong next year. But not for free.
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Traded Jack Steven [traded to Geelong for #58]
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I think if we keep him at the Saints next year that he'll retire. He wants to be closer to his family I get that.
He'll end up at Geelong next year. But not for free.
Mangus
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No one except Geelong it seems, they are not being forced to take him.
Mahlepi
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this is really simple
geelong will offer pick circa 40 and thats it
- if st kilda do the right thing he will walk away from his contract and sign a 2 year deal with geelong based on incentives low base
st kilda needs picks, and i get it, but geelong are not going to burn them, he was overweight and could not play more than a handful of games this year
lets not be precious
st kilda can not be locked into stevens for another 12months
Mahlepi
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we have said at that price - no thanks and have walked away
Probably accurate. I think if Geelong offered to take on his salary + a third rounder would be sufficient for us.
We'll flick that pick over to Port for Paddy Ryder, job done.
Mahlepi
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he has said he would waive salary requirement if traded to geelong
i think everyone is playing games for now
this will get done, and it will not be done for pick 20
Pure_Ownage
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We are fine for cap space.
Agreed. Cats are usually a good club to deal with and Saints have been good to deal with for the last few years.
A deal will get done
It's too bad we don't have the option to have conditional draft picks like they have in the NFL. I think from everyone's perspective if it was pick 40 with a 2020 2nd round pick attached on the proviso that he plays more than 18 games next year. I think then everybody would be happy.
That's interesting, bit like what happens with transfer fees in association football.
Is anything actually stopping them from doing what you suggest? But just unofficially?
Wojcinski
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So from what I understand Geelong is walking away from this trade, the Saints want more than Geelong can afford. I personally think it's best for all parties involved except for maybe Jack himself but he has the option to retire or play another year for the Saints and then doing what he likes.
Saints fans would you be happy if you retained Steven?
Saints fans would you be happy if you retained Steven?
How do you 'understand' geelong are walking away from the trade? And yes, more than happy to keep him.
Wojcinski
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What do you mean? Wells said negotiations are too far apart. How else should I have worded it?
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I think every Saints fan would love Steven to stay.
Could easily mean you're trying to low ball us too?
Wojcinski
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What are you on about? Where did I say St Kilda was being unreasonable? I said Geelong can't afford what they want.
Wojcinski
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I've said all along that Steven is worth much more to St Kilda than he is to Geelong which makes it very hard for them to do a deal. I said the same thing last year, it isn't a dig at St Kilda.
Yes, of course.
He'll play some good footy for us this year and If he walks as a FA we get more than what the Cats are offering this year. That's a double win.
I doubt the Cats are walking away though. They'll just be trying to drag his value down and then come back on the last day.
Only if he is happy to stay.
If he wants to leave and we keep him, I don't feel great about that. Can't be good for player morale or his wellbeing.
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Geelong would be very happy because they'd make sure he only plays 17.
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Not 100% sure that's the case
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Don't see what St Kilda get out of letting him go for pick 57. Can't really see them being able to get any of their targets for that pick.
I know there is a thought that he'd retire if he doesn't get the move. Maybe Saints will be good guys and say "you've given us 10 good years, we don't want you to have to retire so here's you're move" but they'd be well in their right to ask for 36 or keep him to his contract. Theres really no difference to the Saints whether he retires or plays for Geelong
I know there is a thought that he'd retire if he doesn't get the move. Maybe Saints will be good guys and say "you've given us 10 good years, we don't want you to have to retire so here's you're move" but they'd be well in their right to ask for 36 or keep him to his contract. Theres really no difference to the Saints whether he retires or plays for Geelong
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I think pick 36 is the part of the Venn diagram which overlaps. Half way between a pick in the 20s and a pick in the 50s.
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