Yup, do it and move on. Hope he goes well for you guys, we all love Jack
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Traded Jack Steven [traded to Geelong for #58]
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I was replying to someone saying it should be a first only
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Why the **** would st Kilda pay any of his wage? Say pick 33 and be done with it. If geelong can't afford him then Steven takes a pay cut. Hate clubs bend over for players
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If Geelong cover his full wage it'll be pick 57. Have a lie down mate.
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Geelong don't have to. St Kilda say to Steven, we can get you to Geelong but you need to take a pay cut. Why bend over backwards for someone who is reneging on their contract - they agreed on money terms for him to play at st Kilda. He wants to leave, they are dealing with the club he wants to play for, that club can't afford his contract so tell him to take a pay cut. Dumb by st Kilda. Clubs need to stop players from dictating terms
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Do it and move on
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receiving 37 for paying his wage? that's horrible
almost as bad as paying 25 for hannerbery for a salary dump.
AFL website is saying partial wage payment for 2020.
I think that's fair. We're seen as a salary dump friendly club to trade with, so why not take advantage of it?
Pick 37 makes up for the second rounder we lost in the Hanners trade, so at least we have a good chance of the targets we're after this trade period without compromising our draft next year too much.
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Media have muddied the water a little saying Jack may walk away from the game if he doesnt get a trade, yet some say he's happy to stay so for saints better to offload at 37 and get something you can use in another trade...
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now that Geelong just won draft lotto for an uncontracted Kelly and didn't let him go for a packet of chips on compassionate grounds...St Kilda - ask for more for Steven
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agreed, i say we stick to our guns. especially if Geelong are asking for a portion of his wage to be paid.
24 Geelong, take it or leave it.
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how many years do the cats expect to get out of him?
Pumpernickel
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I think if its 24 or jack stays, Geelong would respectfully decline and wish Jack all the very best for the rest of career.
The logic I go by:
1. Steven is currently payed far more that he is worth.
2. If Saints let him go next year they'd get a compo pick in the range of 30
Geelong should match the Steven's compo pick value and Saints should cover his excess wages above market value. I've heard Steven is willing to play for less at Geelong but I think that saving should go to the Saints.
1. Steven is currently payed far more that he is worth.
2. If Saints let him go next year they'd get a compo pick in the range of 30
Geelong should match the Steven's compo pick value and Saints should cover his excess wages above market value. I've heard Steven is willing to play for less at Geelong but I think that saving should go to the Saints.
Good he can stay or retire. If he retires it frees up a tonne of cap space if he stays we retain a great mid.
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Or Steven can take a pay cut - WTF should he get his full contract value when he isn't going to stick it out with the club he signed it with? St Kilda are doing the right thing by him by dealing with the club he wants to play for, take a pay cut (or is that going to hurt his feelings sob, sob)
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He can stay and play or retire. To me Jacks holding the club to ransom if the media reports are correct and Geelong are milking the situation. As noted above i'd rather him walk next year and get AFL compo.
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24 is fair considering Geelong have set the bar based on Kelly trade.
What bar? Kelly has nothing to do with stevens? Completely different ages, form and risks.
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Kelly was uncontracted and clearly had compassionate grounds, but didn't stop you from extracting maximum value. This guy is contracted and wants to leave under mental health grounds, one of their top mids on a good day. Saints should park emotional saga at the door and ask for pick 24. If Geelong feels it's worth the risk, you can pay it.
zeggie
You can't kick goals when you're unconscious.
Has Stevens been getting himself fit so far this offseason? After this year's performance I'm surprised Geelong are actually still interested.
evo
Let's hit the f*ken road!
Seems to me, 2020 could well be Geelong's final tilt at a flag for a while. This year at various times Geelong still relied heavily on Selwood, Hawkins and Ablett to get them over the line. At least two, if not all three, will retire at the end of next year.
Stevens at least partially covers the loss of Kelly in the short term.
I feel like St Kilda hold some pretty decent cards here.
Stevens at least partially covers the loss of Kelly in the short term.
I feel like St Kilda hold some pretty decent cards here.
Kelly isnt potentially another mitch clark. Stevens may only play a handful of games. Geelong is not giving a second rounder up again for mitch clark mark 2.
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