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There’s a guy called Brad Hill at Freo that fits that description.
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Traded Jack Steven [traded to Geelong for #58]
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MickG88
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I don't see how Geelong have 900K a year to pay him.
We were willing to re-sign Tim Kelly so it must be there.
MickG88
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That's before signing Ablett and Taylor
I doubt either of those were big contracts and I'm sure we could shuffle things around to make room as required.
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If player agrees to a ne wage, they can do it. 'if you want to get to geelong, both we and the cats can't afford the money you are on. Either stay with us on your wage or get to geelong on the wage Geelong are willing to pay'. lets see how much he wants the money or play for Geelong
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Says the club that won't even give up a 3rd round pick for a former 26 year old Pick 1 KPF, who's completely fit at the moment. Yet we have to give up more than that for a 29 year old player like Steven (30 next year) who has had his share of issues this year, and even contemplated retirement.
Not one Geelong supporter thinks St Kilda should let him go, if they don't want to. We honestly have very little interest (neither does Wells from the look of it). The only reason something will happen, is because Jack himself wants to get back closer to home. If that doesn't happen, then he stays with St Kilda and hopefully they can work through it.
Most have maintained the stance that it's better for all if Steven stays at the Saints next year. So you can take your little 'double standards' post and your little 'I hate Geelong mentality' and scurry back to your board. This one backfired spectacularly.
Bye bye.
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Would need Freo to pay nearly all his salary so I don't reckon the odds are good there
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I think the MC would rather just play constable next year over Steven regardless.
Yeah well one of these players is actually wanted by his club, the other is pushing their player out, ones a four time bnf and one of the only reasons supporters turned upto games for years and the other has missed over 3 years with knee reconstructions and wasn’t in great form before he did his last, so maybe you should take that into account. All you have to do is read through this thread and you’ll see plenty of Geelong supporters saying st Kilda should be looking out for the welfare of Steven. Pretty much everyone who isn’t a Geelong supporter agrees, so no this didn’t backfire spectacularly
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I imagine there's two camps of Geelong fans on this situation.
Camp 1 would be that along with five picks in the first two rounds in this year's draft, we have Rising Star nominees Clark, Miers and Constabile (the latter who didn't get anywhere as much AFL exposure as his efforts seemed to warrant and the former two finishing in the top five in the RS voting this year) and recent additions like Ratugolea, Narkle and Atkins also looking like long term prospects, without considering the potential of others already on the list to step up and establish themselves as senior players. So there's reason to be optimistic about the improvement coming from the list that's already there.
Camp 2 would think that we gave Richmond by far its biggest scare in September, without several players who were in our best 22, including the AA FF and another AA calibre midfielder. But the clock's ticking.
Ablett and probably Taylor are gone by the end of next year, Selwood and Hawkins turn 32, Dangerfield hits 30. If Steven gets himself right physically and mentally, he will at least be a rock solid contributor, say the level of Dahlhaus this year. And he has the potential to be much, much better than that. We have four picks that are earlier (or equivalent to) the one we'd be giving away. It's worth the risk, it could be an absolute steal.
I'm in camp 2. I go back to the Mitch Clark trade in 2014 and I'd do it again even though it didn't pan out. But camp 1 doesn't seem terrible either.
Don’t necessarily disagree with this but the big difference for me is Clark was 26 (not sure when he was turning 27) when he was traded. Steven will be 30 before the beginning of the season. Even if everything goes perfectly we won’t get a lot of good footy out of Steven. And Geelong have said numerous times they don’t do windows.
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In another St.Kilda related thread I see....
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And suggesting we should get him for unders for that fact?
I literally can't find any.
I can see Cats fans who don't want him at all
Cats fans who don't want him for pick 24
Cats fans who don't want him at pick 37.
Plenty discussing the merit of bringing in a 29 year old with significant risks on 800k per year.
None who are suggesting St.Kilda lack compassion.
I have seen a few "how hypocritical of Geelong" posts, but nobody can back those up with evidence.
Wojcinski
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No one cares about your club topping up with mercenaries year after year. It's not relevant to this discussion about Steven and Geelong.
Lol this is pretty rich
Tbone McGraw
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I know everyone says Stephen Wells is a genius and easy to deal with.
However, surely a pick in the 30s is fair for a 4 time best and fairest who wants to come to your club.
Jack would be a surer bet than a pick in the 30s imho.
However, surely a pick in the 30s is fair for a 4 time best and fairest who wants to come to your club.
Jack would be a surer bet than a pick in the 30s imho.
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How so? Hawthorn has by far the most mercenaries and either go out in straight sets or fail to reach finals every year. As I said though, your whinging isn't relevant to this topic
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I actually just don't think they want him at all. They've been flagging that Constable and Narkle have been earmarked for TKs role for a while and I think they want a kid playing alongside the seniors so they get continuity.
Tbone McGraw
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Fair points.
However you get quality when you can and Jack is obviously quality.
A lot better than any player you get in the 30s, especially in your current premiership window.
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Don't disagree that he'd be value at the pick provided he gets back to full fitness, but have a look at Charlie constables stats and tell me what you lose by not getting him game time. They're both good options
Tbone McGraw
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Both Jack and Charlie could play a lot for geelong this year.
If you guys get Jack, you are a better chance at a flag than a pick in the 30s.
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Are Geelong really helping Jack Stevens?
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When have Geelong ever claimed to be helping him? Why is up to us to be helping an opposition player? Are Collingwood helping Joe Daniher?
Tbone McGraw
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OK. I will answer
Jack has a few mental issues. I understand this.
He wants cats but it appears cats don't care about him.
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