Recruiting James Hird Academy (Father/Son and Next Generation)

[eDPS]

Spoiler: JHA Boys

Spoiler: JHA Girls

 

[Hamez]

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[Ati Tude]

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Bring him straight in.

Sorry, getting ahead of myself...

 

[Yoda_]

Davey with just 14 possessions (8k, 6hb, 6m, 3 I50) in Oakleighs win over Calder.

Foley (10 possessions) Allesio (8) Misiti (5) all quiet for Calder


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[Yoda_]

Will be another kid we don't get access to imho. Two league best and fairest suggests the kid can already play and play well.

 

[eDPS]

Will be another kid we don't get access to imho. Two league best and fairest suggests the kid can already play and play well.

Yep I’ve seen a fair bit of him this year and I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t go top 40, it’s early but he has a lot of elite traits.

 

[Lore]

ESSENDON father-son prospect Alwyn Davey

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

jnr and in-form tall talent Tom Scully

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Tom Scully

Age

33

Ht

181cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.5

5star

CL

2.3

4star

D

12.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

5.1

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.1

2star

CL

0.8

3star

D

19.8

5star

K

8.8

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

3.8

5star

are among the group of draft hopefuls added to the NAB AFL Academy program.

The Academy, which is coached by former Collingwood player Tarkyn Lockyer, will play the Magpies' VFL side at Frankston On Saturday, May 21.

It had named a squad of 30 players – across this year's draft group and some 2023 prospects as well – last year but left several spots open for strong early performers across the country's under-18 competitions.

Davey is one of four inclusions to the elite Academy, with the Bombers' father-son talent impressing in the midfield in the early stages of the season for the Oakleigh Chargers.

He and twin brother Jaydon, who is out for the year with a knee injury, are eligible to join the Bombers at the end of the year, where father Alwyn played 100 games and kicked 133 goals.

The Academy came together recently for a training camp in Victoria, with its game against VFL opponents always used as a measuring stick for recruiters judging some of the best talent in the land.

Son of a Don, in-form tall join AFL Academy program

Alwyn Davey jnr and Tom Scully are part of a squad set to take on Collingwood's VFL side later this month

www.afl.com.au

 

[Yoda_]

foj1 eDPS ant555

Are the rules still in place that any of our non National Draft NGA kids can automatically be listed as Cat - B rookies?

Feel this could very well change what we do with Hird &/or McBride at years end if it's still 2 Cat B rookies.

Matt Foley (10 possessions, 3 marks)
Reuban Rode (11k, 6hb, 4m, 1t, 1.1)
Ayui Makieng (literally 1 tackle)
Carlos Egan (11k, 7hb, 5m, 6t, 1 goal)

All played for the Cannons at the weekend

Luca Alessio (12k, 2hb, 6m, 1t) also played ok.

 

[eth-dog]

foj1 eDPS ant555

Are the rules still in place that any of our non National Draft NGA kids can automatically be listed as Cat - B rookies?

Feel this could very well change what we do with Hird &/or McBride at years end if it's still 2 Cat B rookies.

Matt Foley (10 possessions, 3 marks)
Reuban Rode (11k, 6hb, 4m, 1t, 1.1)
Ayui Makieng (literally 1 tackle)
Carlos Egan (11k, 7hb, 5m, 6t, 1 goal)

All played for the Cannons at the weekend

Luca Alessio (12k, 2hb, 6m, 1t) also played ok.

Honestly the only one that could get in is Egan at this stage.

 

[Yoda_]

Must say, it is now May 23rd and we have not had one newsletter update for this year. Disappointing

 

[Lore]

Must say, it is now May 23rd and we have not had one newsletter update for this year. Disappointing

Perhaps not, but there is always Harmit Singh’s twitter feed:





Whatever you can learn from that…

 

[citizen-erased]

R

Perhaps not, but there is always Harmit Singh’s twitter feed:





Whatever you can learn from that…

Ryan Josh's brother?
Had a read on kako. Kid was born after our last final win

 

[eth-dog]

R

Ryan Josh's brother?
Had a read on kako. Kid was born after our last final win

Yes

 

[Yoda_]

R

Ryan Josh's brother?
Had a read on kako. Kid was born after our last final win

Ryan is apparently going to be better, according to Josh himself anyways. Tall midfielder so not as much as a KPP like Josh.

 

[ant555]

Will be another kid we don't get access to imho. Two league best and fairest suggests the kid can already play and play well.

He is the exact reason why they changed the rules. Would have made it through the system without any academy help.

 

[citizen-erased]

He is the exact reason why they changed the rules. Would have made it through the system without any academy help.

my argument is that for every kid part of the academy that would normally make it through the system we get, we help a bunch of others that wouldn't - whether they make AFL or one of the lower levels.

 

[ant555]

my argument is that for every kid part of the academy that would normally make it through the system we get, we help a bunch of others that wouldn't - whether they make AFL or one of the lower levels.

But that is not what they set them up for. They where not set up to find the kids who where going to make it into the under 18 system. The clubs exploited a loop whole . It was supposed to be a club run program watched over by the AFL to identify players from outside the normal systems . The under 18 competition run by the AFL is where the likes of JUH etc where meant to end up.

 

[BrunoV]

Ryan is apparently going to be better, according to Josh himself anyways. Tall midfielder so not as much as a KPP like Josh.

Yep. That's been the word for a while.

But, as ant said, the academies are not there to zone players from footy mad families who are in the talent pathway from the earliest possible age.

It would be like Laverde being zoned to us because a parent happened to be born it Italy. That's completely irrelevant to any difficulty or structural issue which makes it harder for him to play. His family were mad fans and he was in the talent pathway for years.

For kids from the Tiwi Islands and Halls Creek it's a different world. There is no pathway, you've got to bring the academy to them or bring them to the academy, for a start.

 

[citizen-erased]

But that is not what they set them up for. They where not set up to find the kids who where going to make it into the under 18 system. The clubs exploited a loop whole . It was supposed to be a club run program watched over by the AFL to identify players from outside the normal systems . The under 18 competition run by the AFL is where the likes of JUH etc where meant to end up.

Yep. That's been the word for a while.

But, as ant said, the academies are not there to zone players from footy mad families who are in the talent pathway from the earliest possible age.

It would be like Laverde being zoned to us because a parent happened to be born it Italy. That's completely irrelevant to any difficulty or structural issue which makes it harder for him to play. His family were mad fans and he was in the talent pathway for years.

For kids from the Tiwi Islands and Halls Creek it's a different world. There is no pathway, you've got to bring the academy to them or bring them to the academy, for a start.

Bruno's last point is kinda where i'm getting at.
though I should ask, where does Munkara fit? Was it the academy pathway that got him to Adelaide? or was he just aligned because of his heritage?
If the latter, then yep agree.

If the academy starts the pathway, then I think it should be as per F/S and allow the bid to be matched anywhere.
no doubt it will get exploited (a la the Barcelona academy) but if it keeps the clubs invested in these areas that can only be a good thing. And would align with the rules for the NSW/QLD academies.

 

[Yoda_]

Yep. That's been the word for a while.

But, as ant said, the academies are not there to zone players from footy mad families who are in the talent pathway from the earliest possible age.

It would be like Laverde being zoned to us because a parent happened to be born it Italy. That's completely irrelevant to any difficulty or structural issue which makes it harder for him to play. His family were mad fans and he was in the talent pathway for years.

For kids from the Tiwi Islands and Halls Creek it's a different world. There is no pathway, you've got to bring the academy to them or bring them to the academy, for a start.

I feel Munkara will be taken inside the top 20 with us 'putting work into him' and us wanting compensation in some way. Would be such an Essington thing to do / want.

 

[foj1]

None of the Calder kids are up to it- hard call that it is
alessio will get another crack as a 19 year old but he needs a growth spurt
kako is only ok no superstar in the making in my opinion
kobe Bewick is probably the father son potential high end player but the EDFL also have young mcguane and west who are pretty good and just as good a prospects

 

[biglaycock]

None of the Calder kids are up to it- hard call that it is
alessio will get another crack as a 19 year old but he needs a growth spurt
kako is only ok no superstar in the making in my opinion
kobe Bewick is probably the father son potential high end player but the EDFL also have young mcguane and west who are pretty good and just as good a prospects

I think Matt Foley could be worth a shot, I’ve only watched him live 3-4 times but each time I’ve been really impressed with his aggression and defensive mindset.

Needs to find more of the ball no doubt but he could nicely fill a small defensive role with some development

 

[foj1]

I think Matt Foley could be worth a shot, I’ve only watched him live 3-4 times but each time I’ve been really impressed with his aggression and defensive mindset.

Needs to find more of the ball no doubt but he could nicely fill a small defensive role with some development

Foley hasn’t played a good game at nab level as of yet
million miles from being drafted right now

 

[ghostdog]

Son of a Don, in-form tall join AFL Academy program

Alwyn Davey jnr and Tom Scully are part of a squad set to take on Collingwood's VFL side later this month

www.afl.com.au

With Jaydon missing a year of footy, is it kosher to convince him to hold off from nomjnating until the 2023 MSD?

Then we'd get half a season to get another look at him and potentially set ourselves up better for a tilt at Munkara.

Not sure how simplistic/unrealistic that is.

 

[ghostdog]

None of the Calder kids are up to it- hard call that it is
alessio will get another crack as a 19 year old but he needs a growth spurt
kako is only ok no superstar in the making in my opinion
kobe Bewick is probably the father son potential high end player but the EDFL also have young mcguane and west who are pretty good and just as good a prospects

How old is Bewick this year. 14?