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Guys, even if all his tests are clean (they won’t be, otherwise why are you covering stuff up), tampering with a test is a no hoper. He’ll go for some significant time.

The details that we’ve heard are so vague and ever changing that, yes, this all seems incredibly farcical and just plain confusing, but the end result of this is a suspension for Willie, and not a short one.

I’d just like some clarity so I can at least figure out how to process it, at the moment we’re all jumping at shadows.
 
You have to wonder if this came out on Monday, if a Supreme Court injunction could have played out for Rioli to play?
No chance, there is a very clear appeals process in place that doping offences follow. Australian courts are very reluctant to insert themselves into that process.
 
No chance, there is a very clear appeals process in place that doping offences follow. Australian courts are very reluctant to insert themselves into that process.

What I am interested in is that is there a guideline in producing a sample.

Jordan Lewis on VFL360 said tonight you basically piss into the container with the ASADA person standing in front of you.

Glory be, how the hell could he have produced a sample that is not urine.
 

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I think he's tried to cover up something recreational like pot or cocaine and it's going to come around and bite him on the ass

See ya in 2021 Willie.
I think that is the best result at this stage. I am down to just hoping it wasn't PEDs.

If I am proven wrong and Willie is cleared of any misconduct, it will be the sweetest humble pie I have ever eaten.
 
Is covering up a test worse than testing positive.
Everyone talking about the maximum 4 years penalty. Most players with a positive test only get 12 months ?

ASADA has a list of currently sanctions list. Sportspeople who flatout refuse a test generally get 4 years. Not found anyone who has tried to tamper with the test. I still find it amazing how someone could manage to tamper with a test when the ASADA rep is standing in front watching the pee exit the wang and enter the pot. Where does the liquid (supposedly Gatorade) come from when the guy is naked from the nipples down?
 
On the bright side 2 years isn't too long. Docherty has been out for the blues for 2 years. Time flies.

So just got to keep Rioli around the club maybe as a skills coach to keep him fit
Depends what it is tbh, if he's panicked and tried to cover up that he smoked a joint or something then fine. If it turns out that it's performance enhancing of some kind then sorry (and as much as it would hurt to see) but we can't have him at the club anymore imo.
 
Is covering up a test worse than testing positive.
Everyone talking about the maximum 4 years penalty. Most players with a positive test only get 12 months ?
A couple of Collingwood players got two years for their positive drugs test. Saints player got 18 months for drinking a banned sports drink.
What I am interested in is that is there a guideline in producing a sample.

Jordan Lewis on VFL360 said tonight you basically piss into the container with the ASADA person standing in front of you.

Glory be, how the hell could he have produced a sample that is not urine.

That's the big unknown at this stage, we can speculate all we like but the reality is that Willie himself and the two ASADA testers that were present that day know what has transpired. Herald Sun report is saying they busted him on the day, an assumption on my part is that he may have requested a little bit of privacy i.e. asked if he could turn his back to the testers then tried his slight of hand.
 
A couple of Collingwood players got two years for their positive drugs test. Saints player got 18 months for drinking a banned sports drink.


That's the big unknown at this stage, we can speculate all we like but the reality is that Willie himself and the two ASADA testers that were present that day know what has transpired. Herald Sun report is saying they busted him on the day, an assumption on my part is that he may have requested a little bit of privacy i.e. asked if he could turn his back to the testers then tried his slight of hand.


With all due respect, there is No way ASADA would allow privacy for testing of athletes cheating the system. If they do, their guidelines are flawed.
 
As unlikely as it seems, perhaps little Willie got stage fright and big Willie panicked and filled up the cup with whatever he could

Blue and Gold glasses off I'd say that's pretty unlikely and he was probably hiding something.

Sounds like he did produce another (real) sample so let's hope like hell that comes back clean, or at least no PEDs.
 
A couple of Collingwood players got two years for their positive drugs test. Saints player got 18 months for drinking a banned sports drink.


That's the big unknown at this stage, we can speculate all we like but the reality is that Willie himself and the two ASADA testers that were present that day know what has transpired. Herald Sun report is saying they busted him on the day, an assumption on my part is that he may have requested a little bit of privacy i.e. asked if he could turn his back to the testers then tried his slight of hand.

Do you think ASADA would allow a sportsperson some privacy with the piss pot in their hands? If that happened then ASADA is more pathetic than I already think they are.
 
He got spooked and tried to cover up his test. When I was younger I got spooked by a booze bus and tried to outrun the police. I ended up with a worse outcome than had I pulled over. I suspect this will be the same for him. 😥
Legit saw like 5 cars do this and all get caught. We were on our way out of a nightspot heading to a famous uni pub. So lotta booze bus attention. None of the cars tried to outrun them, but instead turn up side roads etc. My friend fanged it and pulled into a parking lot. I was so unhappy with him for possibly being over the limit/being high, even though he had only had a drink or so earlier in the day and he was lucky the cops took off after another car.

We sat there for about 45 minutes and watched traffic coming one way, flash those going the other and every 5-10 mins someone would take off, try and chuck a u-ey etc. and get nabbed.

Crazy the stuff people will do when they are about to get rumbled. Even if like my mate, they could reasonably have been well under the limit.
 
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