News Jnr Rioli - He’s back.

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Even if his B sample comes back positive for illicit drugs we wont find out unless its his 3rd strike .

My gut feel is that he has drunk one of those Bclear or another liquid drug test masking liquids .

My mates who work at the mines would drink them when going back to site before their tests.

You have to drink a whole 750ml bottle of the liquid then fill the bottle with water and drink that too .

Then when you piss its not really urine in the normal sense its just that liquid coming out and it has all the protein markers to pass the paper dip test they do .

Problem is asada isnt some mine site who do mass testing they would very much be on to tactics like that .

 

[squashface]

The only real two possible scenarios rely on that B sample.

If it comes back positive then he is royally f***ed
If it comes back negative then he is still f***ed for tampering with a sample but not as bad, but as it’s already been said here, why would you tamper with a sample that is going to turn up negative anyway?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

What hurts the most for me is thinking of everything Simmo did, going the extra mile to learn more about Willie's family and heritage. If he's thrown it all away through some very poor decision making I'd be gutted for them both.

 

[twce13]

The only real two possible scenarios rely on that B sample.

If it comes back positive then he is royally f***ed
If it comes back negative then he is still f***ed for tampering with a sample but not as bad, but as it’s already been said here, why would you tamper with a sample that is going to turn up negative anyway?

The other aspect is illicit vs PED. Lets hope its the former.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Even if his B sample comes back positive for illicit drugs we wont find out unless its his 3rd strike .

My gut feel is that he has drunk one of those Bclear or another liquid drug test masking liquids .

My mates who work at the mines would drink them when going back to site before their tests.

You have to drink a whole 750ml bottle of the liquid then fill the bottle with water and drink that too .

Then when you piss its not really urine in the normal sense its just that liquid coming out and it has all the protein markers to pass the paper dip test they do .

Problem is asada isnt some mine site who do mass testing they would very much be on to tactics like that .

Possibly.

Though allegedly ASADA don't do the paper marker tests.

Someone else posted that their guidelines stipulate player responsibility for the sample until it is taken into ASADA custody. So the testers won't stop a person from trying to interfere with a sample on site. They will just write up and report the infraction, then test to confirm and begin the process to bring action against the player. Realistically, the sample could have been placed on a table waiting to be bagged and he tried to do something silly. It failed, and the testers just demanded a second sample.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

What hurts the most for me is thinking of everything Simmo did, going the extra mile to learn more about Willie's family and heritage. If he's thrown it all away through some very poor decision making I'd be gutted for them both.

I genuinely feel for Rioli.

 

[Godfather32]

What hurts the most for me is thinking of everything Simmo did, going the extra mile to learn more about Willie's family and heritage. If he's thrown it all away through some very poor decision making I'd be gutted for them both.

And this kind of thing will be going through all the players heads tonight and tomorrow. Fair chance a few of them won't get much sleep. All the muppets going rah rah it won't affect the players, we didn't have Gaff last year etc etc have no idea. Our performance tomorrow will 100% be affected by this.

 

[GROTTO]

So did Rioli go walkabouts? Glory be. Seriously cannot understand how this sample got produced.

Athlete responsibilities

During the sample collection athletes have the responsibility to:

• remain within direct observation of the DCO or Chaperone at all times from the point of notification until the completion of the sample collection procedure
• produce appropriate identification
• comply with the directions of the DCO and Chaperone during the sample collection session
• report immediately for a test, unless there is a valid reason for a delay.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

The only real two possible scenarios rely on that B sample.

If it comes back positive then he is royally f***ed
If it comes back negative then he is still f***ed for tampering with a sample but not as bad, but as it’s already been said here, why would you tamper with a sample that is going to turn up negative anyway?

Tampering/substituting is more serious than a positive test. The max is a 4 year ban.

 

[RookiePick]

Going to bed or I will be following this until the wee hours.

 

[GROTTO]

FFS. Fly me over to Perth I will represent Rioli.

5. Providing the sample
Urine sample provision

Only a Chaperone (or DCO) of the same gender is permitted in the area of privacy when the athlete provides the sample. If the athlete is under 18 years of age, they may request their representative be present.The Chaperone (or DCO) will directly witness the urine sample leaving the athlete's body and going into the collection vessel.

The athlete is required to thoroughly wash and dry their hands before providing a urine sample. They are also required to remove any clothing from the knees to the mid-torso and from the hands to the elbows.

The athlete is responsible for controlling their sample and keeping it in view of the DCO or Chaperone until it is sealed in a sample collection kit.

If the athlete provides a sample less than the required volume, they are required to temporarily seal it and provide further volume.

The first urine sample(s) that an athlete is able to provide post notification must be collected.

 

[Godfather32]

Going to bed or I will be following this until the wee hours.

Likewise

 

[squashface]

Tampering/substituting is more serious than a positive test. The max is a 4 year ban.

Tampering/substituting a positive test would be more serious than tampering/substituting a negative test imo but again, why would he do that? Leads me to believe it is the former and he is boned.

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

So did Rioli go walkabouts? Glory be. Seriously cannot understand how this sample got produced.

Athlete responsibilities

During the sample collection athletes have the responsibility to:

• remain within direct observation of the DCO or Chaperone at all times from the point of notification until the completion of the sample collection procedure
• produce appropriate identification
• comply with the directions of the DCO and Chaperone during the sample collection session
• report immediately for a test, unless there is a valid reason for a delay.

From my experience with giving drug test which i have done many is that the sample isn't left open . You piss give it to the tester . They do a paper test ( asada dont do this step ) then put the lid on with a sticky tamper seal which you and the tester both sign.

It just doest get left open sitting there for any amount of time .

 

[Coasters7]

I think that is the best result at this stage. I am down to just hoping it wasn't PEDs.

If I am proven wrong and Willie is cleared of any misconduct, it will be the sweetest humble pie I have ever eaten.

Don’t think there’s much chance of him being cleared as everyone involved would’ve made sure before going public.. and the clubs reaction doesn’t exactly fill me with confidence. But if by some chance he’s innocent it’s going to be an absolute circus (which is why everything would be 100% confirmed by asada you’d think). Just don’t see how any scenario makes sense.

1. The agent was incompetent and didn’t follow proper procedure (which looks like it’s already been confirmed not to be the case)

2. Willie blatantly did it while the guy was watching. Which I don’t understand why you’d bother?

Add to that the fact that Willie himself has seemed fine the previous 3 weeks so clearly thought nothing of it. Where you’d suspect he wouldn’t quite be all there considering he’d be stressing about the clean sample he (reportedly) sent in anyway.

There’s something missing and someone’s ****ed up big time. Highly likely Willie.. but I just don’t see how anyone could do anything so stupid knowing the consequences.

 

[ioppolo]

The timing of this is just all too convenient. Whenever we're up and about the media has to find something. Unfortunately for us Rioli was potentially stupid enough to play into their hands.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Tampering/substituting a positive test would be more serious than tampering/substituting a negative test imo but again, why would he do that? Leads me to believe it is the former and he is boned.

Say you've had a bump on the weekend. No guarantee you will test negative, but that doesn't mean a player won't panic.

 

[squashface]

Say you've had a bump on the weekend. No guarantee you will test negative, but that doesn't mean a player won't panic.

Yeah fair call

 

[Cuzz09]

I think he's gone if he's done any kind of drugs. I can't see the club letting that fly after the Cousins saga.

If he's done any drugs then happy to say see ya.

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[ioppolo]

I'd bet more than half our list diddles with drugs. Most AFL players do. If he's stupid enough to get caught well...

 

[Cuzz09]

Do ASADA even care of its not PED?

If ANY of our players are on PEDs then delist.

**** em

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[30stm]

Losing Nic Nat, Gaff and Shep last year turned out ok

Not the same mate.....

Rioli situation would definitely taken its toll on some of the players mental state before tomorrow's game. Won't be surprised if half the team will be flat (especially the indigenous boys).

Would be a colossal job for Simmo and his coaching staff to keep everyone focused and composed on tomorrow's match.

Looks likely that Petruccelle will be off the trade table in November if Rioli is found guilty.

Sad day.....

 

[Illeagle]

I just don't get that if he was "caught red handed" at the time, then how he still held it together. Watching the elimination final replay on fox footy (really stings) but he was playing like a player without a care in the world. I guess he was caught red handed, and thought he got away with it until now?

 

[hungrytiger]

Marijuana

 

[Jandamarra]

I don’t buy this sh*t. The fix is in.