Play Nice Jobe Watson hands back Brownlow Medal

[Bunk Moreland]

That's part of the problem. The media are letting their personal feelings and dealings with Jobe influence their ability to report on the issue. As a result, they come across as trying to protect one of their own (which they are). If the media put aside those feelings, and reported on the issue with a mindset to let the public make up their own minds (don't try to tell the masses what to think), then it would actually result in less hatred.

In fact, if the media played a neutral bat with this issue more often, then I daresay a majority of people would feel more comfortable recognising Jobe's good qualities themselves, without feeling like they're being told to admire him because he's a good bloke. If he's a good person, have faith those qualities will shine through naturally and people will notice for themselves. He's obviously a good bloke IMO, but don't tell me to admire him and insult my intelligence by spinning the facts related to the PEDS saga. It only triggers an antagonistic response.

Do we really need to have a conversation about what the role of a writer is?

Of course their personal feelings come into it, that's what being an opinion writer is.

It's not 1955. The media don't report stories and leave it. Twitter does that.

"Stop telling me what to think"... if you can't handle articles that don't agree with your own viewpoint then don't read them.

There's a lot of people outside those on here, the "keyboard neanderthals" as Caro put it, that think Jobe as acted in a classy and honourable manner, and they have sympathy for him.

Deal with it. Or don't. But let's not go with this crap about it being some sort of Orwellian mind control situation.

 

[QuietB]

I'd rather have Jobe babysit my kids than Lance Franklin.

The kids would rather have Buddy

 

[Demon in Hell]

I'd rather have Jobe babysit my kids than Lance Franklin.

I'd rather have Jesinta babysit my kids.

In fact I'd rather Jesinta just have my kids.

 

[Andrew Mc]

And for YEARS Jobe has believed he was innocent.

When all appeals had failed, and despite STILL believing he is innocent of wrongdoing, he takes less than a month to return it to the AFL.

If you think that's unreasonable then you are categorically, fundamentally wrong.

Anyone with an ounce of credibility and integrity would have done it the next day. But then again, it's pretty clear that drug cheats aren't known for their credibility and integrity, so he waited until the very last day, and hoped it'd get buried in the pile of Trump.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Can see your point but it's not about painting him like a hero IMO, it's just a general sense of empathy and understanding of how hard that moment must have been for him, irrespective of whether they were going to strip him of it in a few days time anyway.

Many spin their own narratives in afl stories but I think it's just a general appreciation and empathy of how hard the situation must have been for him.

It's about reinforcing the message that Honest Jobe would never do the wrong thing and by extension that WADA/CAS made a wrong decision.

 

[Sammymoite]

It's about reinforcing the message that Honest Jobe would never do the wrong thing and by extension that CAS made a wrong decision.

Wrong, simply your interpretation.

Lol at how so many of you abuse Essendon supporters for being conspiracy theorists but look at the dribble that some of you come up with

 

[Ron The Bear]

Wrong, simply your interpretation.

Lol at how so many of you abuse Essendon supporters for being conspiracy theorists but look at the dribble that some of you come up with

A comment from today's HS by 'Allan' - surely Hird snr.

Jobe will always be regarded as the 2012 Brownlow winner. The other 2 will be recipients of a "tainted" medal.

There is more information being provided to the Senate which throws more doubt on the CAS findings and the finding against Essendon (and Jobe) could well be thrown out. How embarrassing for the AFL and especially Trent and Sam when Jobe gets his medal back?

I heard Terry Wallace say Trent and Sam should receive theirs on 2017 Medal night - how embarrassing especially to Essendon attendees, Trent and Sam.

No positive tests, no evidence - overseas courts even not in English. No justice.

There's still a push to overturn/disregard the CAS decision. I'll get back to you after the award is declared vacant.

 

[Sammymoite]

A comment from today's HS by 'Allan' - surely Hird snr.


There's still a push to overturn/disregard the CAS decision. I'll get back to you after the award is declared vacant.

I don't see what your point is?

 

[Ron The Bear]

I don't see what your point is?

Watson has cut a deal with the AFL - hand back the medal and no winner will be declared, with a view to reinstating Watson as the winner at some later point.

You're right, that's only my interpretation. We'll see.

 

[Sammymoite]

Watson has cut a deal with the AFL - hand back the medal and no winner will be declared, with a view to reinstating Watson as the winner at some later point.

You're right, that's only my interpretation. We'll see.

Cotchin will have the medal along with Mitchell by some point today and this post will be simply incorrect

 

[Jade]

Anyone with an ounce of credibility and integrity would have done it the next day. But then again, it's pretty clear that drug cheats aren't known for their credibility and integrity, so he waited until the very last day, and hoped it'd get buried in the pile of Trump.

Why don't you go tell Jobe that, you superstar internet hero you. Tell him he has no credibility or integrity.

 

[Runk]

Anyone with an ounce of credibility and integrity would have done it the next day. But then again, it's pretty clear that drug cheats aren't known for their credibility and integrity, so he waited until the very last day, and hoped it'd get buried in the pile of Trump.

Can you see anything from up there on that high horse??? You must be bursting with integrity. ffs

 

[Ron The Bear]

Cotchin will have the medal along with Mitchell by some point today and this post will be simply incorrect

Hope you're right but I don't share your confidence.

 

[Xtreme]

Why don't you go tell Jobe that, you superstar internet hero you. Tell him he has no credibility or integrity.

I would gladly do this FWIW

 

[Sammymoite]

Can I just say that this whole thing has brought the worst out in people.

Everyone potting Jobe are just showing the type of character they possess, can't even be bothered going into detail but he's obviously a fantastic person

Too many keyboard warriors on here, some downright brutal and ridiculously moronic posts on here

 

[Sammymoite]

I would gladly do this FWIW

You wouldn't do it ya little virgin

 

[Jade]

I would gladly do this FWIW

Sure you would.

 

[Xtreme]

You wouldn't do it ya little virgin

Not a virgin but thanks for assuming you just made an ass out of yourself ;P

Sure you would.

I gladly would, I say what I think/feel at all stages . I have no problem telling him exactly what I think of him right in his face!

 

[Sammymoite]

Not a virgin but thanks for assuming you just made an ass out of yourself ;P

Haha sorry dude you got me ppp

 

[DapperDong]

Best thing Essendon supporters can do is simply not respond. It's feeding the worst types here, that much is obvious.

 

[Andronicus]

All avenues played out a month ago.

Then why were you banging on about doing it years ago?

It seems it has you incredibly worked up. If him handing it back later has got so many people this stressed out, I'm a little glad it has played out like this to show just how wrong the priorities of a lot of posters here are.

People that are spewing so much vitriol are no doubt spilling far more tears than any of the opposition players involved. You know, the ones that might deem themselves to actually be affected by it all.

 

[Sammymoite]

Best thing Essendon supporters can do is simply not respond. It's feeding the worst types here, that much is obvious.

Agreed and usually never do, but just feel the need to speak out against flogs who constantly post ridiculous and contradictory statements while pushing their own agenda all at once

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Do we really need to have a conversation about what the role of a writer is?

Of course their personal feelings come into it, that's what being an opinion writer is.

It's not 1955. The media don't report stories and leave it. Twitter does that.

"Stop telling me what to think"... if you can't handle articles that don't agree with your own viewpoint then don't read them.

There's a lot of people outside those on here, the "keyboard neanderthals" as Caro put it, that think Jobe as acted in a classy and honourable manner, and they have sympathy for him.

Deal with it. Or don't. But let's not go with this crap about it being some sort of Orwellian mind control situation.

That's all well and good - but the dude's point remains valid.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Can I just say that this whole thing has brought the worst out in people.

Everyone potting Jobe are just showing the type of character they possess, can't even be bothered going into detail but he's obviously a fantastic person

Too many keyboard warriors on here, some downright brutal and ridiculously moronic posts on here

Out of curiosity, are you able to explain what this 'fantastic person' thing is all about and show some evidence to support it?

I keep hearing about this and his 'character', but the only stuff I've read and seen suggests he's not that great a dude at all.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Hope you're right but I don't share your confidence.

They won't give it to Cotchin and Mitchell, cause that'll be messy when they tweak a rule in a year or two and give it back to Jobe.

Bookmark it.