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Joel and Adam Selwood: High Contact Kings
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Adam definately does it.
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dear lord you are an imbecile, did you fail to realise a hawk supporter made this thread?
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you're in denial here. It's plain as day. He sees a tackle coming and ducks in to it. Everybody sees it. Time and time again. Rioli was using the move a bit over the weekend too.
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Maybe next time the Cats and Hawks play, Bomba could put Selwood onto Franklin. I struggling to remember the last time I saw Franklin actually tackle someone legitimitely. He gave away 5 frees last Saturday. One would have been for the Varcoe rundown and I reckon the other 4 would have been him making high contact on opponents.
Players need to learn how to tackle properly.
FWIW, I'm glad to see Joel getting paid frees for high contact again. There was a fair chunk of this season where he wasn't getting any at all. You'd hear the umpires telling him he'd ducked or initiated the high contact which was often laugable considering he'd be standing up with 2 players hanging off him.
I don't know if they'd been coached like Brad Scott was suggesting, I just think it would have been pretty tough getting a kick in that Selwood backyard.
Players need to learn how to tackle properly.
FWIW, I'm glad to see Joel getting paid frees for high contact again. There was a fair chunk of this season where he wasn't getting any at all. You'd hear the umpires telling him he'd ducked or initiated the high contact which was often laugable considering he'd be standing up with 2 players hanging off him.
I don't know if they'd been coached like Brad Scott was suggesting, I just think it would have been pretty tough getting a kick in that Selwood backyard.
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Has a long way to go to catch up to Phil Matera though
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Joel Selwood is like a caged animal when he gets tackled, he'll do anything to get out, this often draws high contact infringements that really piss opposition supporters off. There are occasions when he does this deliberately but the're not many other players willing to copy his technique, it's not like it's as simple as diving or staging, he still physically "earns" it. This year though he hasn't been getting any where near the same amount of frees as previous years, probably why they had to bring up the last 4 years of stats rather than just this year.
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Ok. So it's plain coincidence that it's two brothers?
What if it were the two Shaw brothers? Would you think it were coincidence then?
Or are you so blinded by the fact it's a Geelong player that you refuse to look at any evidence?
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yeah selwood ducks, i'm not denying that, but the thing is noone would give 3/5ths of ****all if he didn't play for geelong
Not just the Selwood boys, but a fair few players in the AFL will throw their head back when any contact is felt. Some even endulge in the head giration which is the above in quick repetition.
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If its happened 85 times you would think there would be an opposition player bright enough pick up on it and to go lower with the tackle too..or perhaps take step side wards and maybe go at his hips from the side...
just a thought
just a thought
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Selwood's, one plays for West Coast sitting 16th ffs. Most people don't give a shit about Geelong nearly as much as you hope.
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lol at hawthorn supporters calling opposition supporters 2 year olds...they were leading the free kick count on saturday and were still calling the umpires cheats for being biased towards geelong..
thing is, players like the selwoods drop the knees and keep their heads up, thus, at ground level it appears that it is legitimate high contact, even though those players have contributed to it.
Don't take it personally Cats fans, this isn't a Bay13 poo throwing contest.
These guys go out of their way to accentuate contact. They don't invent it, but they make damn sure it's noticable.
Both are also hard nut players, but the free discrepancy shows how good they are at getting frees. It's no accident.
These guys go out of their way to accentuate contact. They don't invent it, but they make damn sure it's noticable.
Both are also hard nut players, but the free discrepancy shows how good they are at getting frees. It's no accident.
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And you're delusional. Seems you've brought the Collingwood propaganda bulltish line. What Rioli was doing on the weekend was blatantly ducking his head, I don't know how he wasn't pinged for it. What Selwood does is get in low and hard for the ball and then stay low, either to dish it out or to bulldoze his way through. There's a marked difference.
Opponents aren't allowed to bump him when he's down there so the only option is to tackle him. It leaves them between a rock and a hard place. It's probably almost worth giving away a free kick to him in a lot of instances. He's not the most penetrating by foot and it gives the opposition a quick breather to man up or flood back.
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oh bullshit when people are talking about "ducking" joel selwood is the first name everybody mentions
it's not because he does it more often than others, or that he does it better
it's because he is a gun player in a team that has dominated the afl for nearly 4 years now
it's jealousy and you are blind if you cannot see that
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If the "secret" is out, then why don't opposition players adjust?
I say look after the player first to the ball
I say look after the player first to the ball
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I'd love to know how many of those free kicks were paid advantage. If Joel was playing for a free kick, he'd go back and take it, not dispose of the ball in the same movement.
I don't believe he's trying to get a free kick, he's trying to squirm out of the tackle. That involves dropping the shoulder, which initiates the high contact. It's not his fault the umps aren't good enough to spot it. Simple solution: tackle him around the waist like you're taught to.
I don't believe he's trying to get a free kick, he's trying to squirm out of the tackle. That involves dropping the shoulder, which initiates the high contact. It's not his fault the umps aren't good enough to spot it. Simple solution: tackle him around the waist like you're taught to.
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How can they adjust? I've seen players try and tackle Joel around the waist, Joel ducks and loses his feet, the umpires see this and bang, free kick. It's not a matter of players adjusting, more umpires being able to tell when a player is acting up.
I find it funny that West Coast supporters accept and are fine with Adam doing it, as they should be, yet Geelong supporters get incredibly defensive when it comes to Joel.
I believe to some extent he is pushing for the free kick, but when he doesn't get it he doesn't cry about it either. The fact remains: if Selwood is able to get away with it all the time, why wouldn't he continue doing it? its the umpires fault, not the players. If they didn't reward it constantly, I am sure he wouldn't do it constantly.
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check out some of the reactions hawk fans have when people call hodge and rioli out on "ducking", or accuse franklin of staging, or mitchell of sniping
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