Traded Josh Battle - Joins Hawthorn as UFA

[Jeremias]

Infractions and thread bans have been handed out.

Keep it civil and on topic, or keep it to yourself.

Thanks.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

So big clubs can just poach players that have been developed by smaller clubs, even paying them less money?

Yep. At least it would have been fair

 

[StCicatriz]

Yep. Would encourage clubs to be better The cap space is what you receive ala the NBA.

well it's good to see the fans of the big clubs finally admit that free agency is more beneficial to them than the smaller clubs

 

[Back Pocket Rocket]

well it's good to see the fans of the big clubs finally admit that free agency is more beneficial to them than the smaller clubs

Didn't realise the Hawks were a big club. And we lost the biggest free agent in the history of the game so your point is mute.

 

[marcus1232]

Didn't realise the Hawks were a big club. And we lost the biggest free agent in the history of the game so your point is mute.

Jack gunstan ?
But you got him back !

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Jack gunstan ?
But you got him back !

He was contracted at the lions and we traded for Gunners!

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Didn't realise the Hawks were a big club. And we lost the biggest free agent in the history of the game so your point is mute.

Should have never been any compo at all. I can stomach that.

 

[StCicatriz]

Didn't realise the Hawks were a big club. And we lost the biggest free agent in the history of the game so your point is mute.

So now you're not a big club

I wouldn't use lance as an example. The AFL thought he was off to GWS. Cracked the shits when they discovered it was Sydney.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

So now you're not a big club

I wouldn't use lance as an example. The AFL thought he was off to GWS. Cracked the shits when they discovered it was Sydney.

What did that have to do with a half arsed compo system?

 

[StCicatriz]

What did that have to do with a half arsed compo system?

Asking the wrong guy... you brought up lance not me.

 

[FB19]

The compo calc isn’t the problem. It’s the contending club getting the player from the lower club only giving up cap space. Cap space except for Collingwood under Ned guy (who got moved to the AFL as reward for his incompetence) has hardly ever forced a contending club into losing players. What should happen is a value is calculated and the receiving club forced to match it like a bid, but under new matching rules where 2 picks to match maximum.
Contender gets player and gives up 2 good picks
Sender gets cap relief and the compo pick
It’s essentially a trade but without the ability of the sender to block it.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The compo calc isn’t the problem. It’s the contending club getting the player from the lower club only giving up cap space. Cap space except for Collingwood under Ned guy (who got moved to the AFL as reward for his incompetence) has hardly ever forced a contending club into losing players. What should happen is a value is calculated and the receiving club forced to match it like a bid, but under new matching rules where 2 picks to match maximum.
Contender gets player and gives up 2 good picks
Sender gets cap relief and the compo pick
It’s essentially a trade but without the ability of the sender to block it.

It shouldn't be normal for contenders to have the cap to attract big players.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Gets very interesting if they do get an early compo pick. Would stkilda trade say pick 5 and 6 for 1?

 

[Jeremias]

Gets very interesting if they do get an early compo pick. Would stkilda trade say pick 5 and 6 for 1?

I think they would be mad to do that, given how even the draft is meant to be.

SOS will be looking at volume IMO.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Gets very interesting if they do get an early compo pick. Would stkilda trade say pick 5 and 6 for 1?

Not in this draft.

 

[HumanMeatball]

Not in this draft.

I wouldn’t think so either. Unless a standout does emerge

 

[stavro#4]

Gets very interesting if they do get an early compo pick. Would stkilda trade say pick 5 and 6 for 1?

I think they would be mad to do that, given how even the draft is meant to be.

SOS will be looking at volume IMO.

Not a chance in hell would we do that.

Look at SOS record at Carlton.

It was all about first round pick accumulation

 

[Vindicater]

So Battle goes to Hawthorn which allows them to roll Scrimshaw and Sicily off the big boys.

Is there anyone other than Hawthorn coming hard for him?

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

So Battle goes to Hawthorn which allows them to roll Scrimshaw and Sicily off the big boys.

Is there anyone other than Hawthorn coming hard for him?

Wants to go to his boyhood club

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So Battle goes to Hawthorn which allows them to roll Scrimshaw and Sicily off the big boys.

Is there anyone other than Hawthorn coming hard for him?

Collingwood were also into him.

 

[stavro#4]

North Collingwood and Melbourne all into him.

2 horse race. Stkilda or Hawks.

Money on offer is cusp band 1 at current. Probably goes abit over in the next few weeks and he signs for the Hawks

 

[sexyhunk]

The compo calc isn’t the problem. It’s the contending club getting the player from the lower club only giving up cap space. Cap space except for Collingwood under Ned guy (who got moved to the AFL as reward for his incompetence) has hardly ever forced a contending club into losing players. What should happen is a value is calculated and the receiving club forced to match it like a bid, but under new matching rules where 2 picks to match maximum.
Contender gets player and gives up 2 good picks
Sender gets cap relief and the compo pick
It’s essentially a trade but without the ability of the sender to block it.

way too unnecessarily complicated.

published all player salary so everyone know if any club cooking the books. If big time players taking hundred of thousands paycut, so be it.

 

[1990crow]

I have no issues with the Saints getting band 1 after the Roos got band 1 for McKay & Frawley got for the Dees.

We have a similar offer on the table for Perryman who may also get band 1 compensation, imagine the salty comments after that...

The only logical way to fix this is the compensation needs to change so that band 1 is not in the first round but end of first.

If players like McKay, Battle etc were given pick 19 as compo noone would care.

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

 

[Mopar Jason]

http://archive.today/jgZCs

Jon Ralph on why Hawthorn paying Josh Battle

26

Josh Battle

Age

26

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

five million bucks over six years makes sense. See link above for article.

 

[stavro#4]

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

A player you could have matched and opted not too.

 

[StCicatriz]

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

Your coach was on video telling him to pack his bags.

They're not the same scenarios.