Traded Josh Battle - Joins Hawthorn as UFA

[Jeremias]

Infractions and thread bans have been handed out.

Keep it civil and on topic, or keep it to yourself.

Thanks.

 

[MickG88]

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

I love how non Victorian team supporters constantly complain about Vic's getting it better than their team. How many times in the last 10 years have you played Saints in Victorian?

 

[botts]

Your coach was on video telling him to pack his bags.

They're not the same scenarios.

Don’t forget the camp. That played a part, everyone wanted out after that

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

Because its based on the Salary package they get , not how average or not they are.

So not its not funny at all. Makes perfect sense to most people.

Now the Kurt Tippet scenario....that was funny.

 

[ABAB]

http://archive.today/jgZCs

Jon Ralph on why Hawthorn paying Josh Battle five million bucks over six years makes sense. See link above for article.

That's mean it's not the $900K which is the amount reported as needed for band 1 this year?

 

[Nick the Pig]

there is no fair or unfair when it comes to compensation picks. stkila probably should need some help when you look at their list. and battle is a required player.

Mate they made finals last year. And now they need some help? Spare me.

 

[sexyhunk]

Mate they made finals last year. And now they need some help? Spare me.

mate i dont want stkilda to get another pick in the first round but if hawthorn give battle a bunch of money that it gets them a first round pick what can we do, go email your club and say dont offer a contract to josh battle so we all happy about stkilda not getting a high pick.

 

[TylerDurden]

North Collingwood and Melbourne all into him.

2 horse race. Stkilda or Hawks.

Money on offer is cusp band 1 at current. Probably goes abit over in the next few weeks and he signs for the Hawks

Sounds like the plan.
Sounds done.

 

[Mat Mann]

A player you could have matched and opted not too.

the Crows literally packed his bags and drove him to Bordertown

 

[botts]

Josh won’t go unless it triggers band one. If it doesn’t we will offer him enough to stay. Pick 5 come on down

 

[stavro#4]

Sounds like the plan.
Sounds done.

Yeah I don’t think it’s going to surprise anyone.

If there are clubs and fans thinking this won’t occur then it’s head in the sand type of stuff

 

[Hawker399]

Doing the right thing by the Saints. What a load of rot!!!!
He'd sign with them now or earlier if that was true.
It is about getting the best deal for Battle. Not Saints or Hawks.
That's his prerogative.

 

[stavro#4]

Doing the right thing by the Saints. What a load of rot!!!!
He'd sign with them now or earlier if that was true.
It is about getting the best deal for Battle. Not Saints or Hawks.
That's his prerogative.

He loves the club.

Him leaving has nothing to do with being underpaid at stkilda or not enjoying his football or being unhappy.

Hawthorn is his boyhood club but he wants to ensure the right thing is done by the saints. Ie leaving on a band 1 deal.

He isn’t leaving for sub band 1 money when he has had that money on offer since March at the Saints.

The saints are looking at this as better draft compensation than what Battle would fetch on the market.

It will ensure no bad blood and everyone is happy.

Band 1 saints.
Best money for Battle
Hawks get the player and have to lose 0 assets.

 

[botts]

Doing the right thing by the Saints. What a load of rot!!!!
He'd sign with them now or earlier if that was true.
It is about getting the best deal for Battle. Not Saints or Hawks.
That's his prerogative.

Guess we will just wait and see

 

[Mostyn]

Don’t forget the camp. That played a part, everyone wanted out after that

Like who?

Crouch wanted to stay.

 

[Mostyn]

Because its based on the Salary package they get , not how average or not they are.

So not its not funny at all. Makes perfect sense to most people.

Now the Kurt Tippet scenario....that was funny.

I think it's funnier that a club that only exists on AFL welfare managed to be fined for salary cap breaches in 2005, 2006 AND 2008.

I would have thought St Kilda would have rather spent its money on things other than AFL fines.

 

[Mostyn]

That's mean it's not the $900K which is the amount reported as needed for band 1 this year?

It will need to be more than $900k.

It has to be in the top 44 contracts, and next year 50+ players will be on a million bucks.

 

[Mostyn]

Josh won’t go unless it triggers band one. If it doesn’t we will offer him enough to stay. Pick 5 come on down

Then you should get used to him being in your backline. No one is offering Battle $1m+.

 

[Mostyn]

He loves the club.

Him leaving has nothing to do with being underpaid at stkilda or not enjoying his football or being unhappy.

Hawthorn is his boyhood club but he wants to ensure the right thing is done by the saints. Ie leaving on a band 1 deal.

He isn’t leaving for sub band 1 money when he has had that money on offer since March at the Saints.

The saints are looking at this as better draft compensation than what Battle would fetch on the market.

It will ensure no bad blood and everyone is happy.

Band 1 saints.
Best money for Battle
Hawks get the player and have to lose 0 assets.

No one leaving a club gives a crap about making sure they get well compensated.

They only care if it stops the club preventing their departure, but that's not relevant in this case.

He wants his best possible deal, and you'll get what you deserve.

 

[ABAB]

He loves the club.

Him leaving has nothing to do with being underpaid at stkilda or not enjoying his football or being unhappy.

Hawthorn is his boyhood club but he wants to ensure the right thing is done by the saints. Ie leaving on a band 1 deal.

He isn’t leaving for sub band 1 money when he has had that money on offer since March at the Saints.

The saints are looking at this as better draft compensation than what Battle would fetch on the market.

It will ensure no bad blood and everyone is happy.

Band 1 saints.
Best money for Battle
Hawks get the player and have to lose 0 assets.

The article from Ralph mentioned $5M for 6 years which isn't the $950K he said on the same article will be band 1. It's around $850K which is probably around this value with the new CBA, the Hawks are reportedly only offering Perryman $650K.

 

[Dangerousfield]

As we saw with McKay last year, compo is well and truly another AFL stuff up if clubs can manipulate a contract to get Band 1 compo for a battler like Battle.

If it has to exist at all, Band 1 should never be before all non finalists have had their first round pick used.

Compo bands, F/S academies NGAs, farcical points table, junk picks for top 3 players - the AFL has a ship load to fix but seem completely incapable.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

As we saw with McKay last year, compo is well and truly another AFL stuff up if clubs can manipulate a contract to get Band 1 compo for a battler like Battle.

If it has to exist at all, Band 1 should never be before all non finalists have had their first round pick used.

Compo bands, F/S academies NGAs, farcical points table, junk picks for top 3 players - the AFL has a ship load to fix but seem completely incapable.

1.5 Milliion this year for McKay.
The whole idea was that if a gun player is poached from a bottom dweller, they can less afford to lose them, and should be compensated better.
The concern was that players would constantly desert the lower teams to go to finalists.

 

[ABAB]

As we saw with McKay last year, compo is well and truly another AFL stuff up if clubs can manipulate a contract to get Band 1 compo for a battler like Battle.

If it has to exist at all, Band 1 should never be before all non finalists have had their first round pick used.

Compo bands, F/S academies NGAs, farcical points table, junk picks for top 3 players - the AFL has a ship load to fix but seem completely incapable.

Essendon offer McKay $850K last year, very doubtful they or any other club would offer that for Battle if he was also available as a FA last year. The Hawks are reportedly offering him around $850K this year which is the same as $750K last year before the CBA increase so upper end of band 2 compensation which is his market value.

 

[projectv]

Funny how Victorian teams get band 1 for pretty darn average players.
Then Brad Crouch comes along and nope.

You being salty after all these years about Brad Crouch doesn't have anything to do with Josh Battle.

 

[projectv]

Doing the right thing by the Saints. What a load of rot!!!!
He'd sign with them now or earlier if that was true.
It is about getting the best deal for Battle. Not Saints or Hawks.
That's his prerogative.

The best thing for himself and the best thing for St Kilda are directly linked though?

 

[stavro#4]

It will need to be more than $900k.

It has to be in the top 44 contracts, and next year 50+ players will be on a million bucks.

It has to be in the top 44 contracts on average salary for 2024.

Not 2025 and beyond.

The article from Ralph mentioned $5M for 6 years which isn't the $950K he said on the same article will be band 1. It's around $850K which is probably around this value with the new CBA, the Hawks are reportedly only offering Perryman $650K.

By the time he joins the Hawks. He will have a band 1 contract.

Both clubs have offers of 850k infront of him as of June. It’s only going up if it hasn’t already.