Player Watch Josh Carmichael (Retired 2024)

[Couch Coach]

he was in the elite cricket pathways until late teens including playing at a Premier Cricket Club in Melbourne

Camberwell magpies I believe?

 

[Jen2310]

Camberwell magpies I believe?

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[KillerMagpies]

From Country footy to Darwin to SANFL to the most famous sporting club in Australia - reckon he’ll sleep we tonight

Hopefully we see more than those underwhelming highlights flying around


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Following Nathan Buckley’s path…

 

[jonbe54]

Following Nathan Buckley’s path…

Disregarding the coaching we could do a lot worse than getting someone 50% as good as Nathe

 

[Dynamics]

I remember reading somewhere recently the list imbalance we have where there is a lack of talent between 22-25.

Lipinski joined during the off-season, about to turn 24, and Carmichael looks like a really good get, is 22.

People don’t realise, but we’re balancing up this list. With abit off the top end to drop off (Pendles, Sidebottom, Roughead, Howe), we can’t just keep replacing with 18-19yos, so it’s good to see the club adding talent/quality that can have a more immediate impact.

It's a massive hole and I'm glad steps are being taken now rather than after we fall off the impending cliff after Pendles, Sidey, Howe and co retire.

Which is why I Iike the thinking with McStay, just not the choice of player with his reported wage demands.

In any case our list is going to look radically different by 2024/25.

 

[sr36]

I remember reading somewhere recently the list imbalance we have where there is a lack of talent between 22-25.

Lipinski joined during the off-season, about to turn 24, and Carmichael looks like a really good get, is 22.

People don’t realise, but we’re balancing up this list. With abit off the top end to drop off (Pendles, Sidebottom, Roughead, Howe), we can’t just keep replacing with 18-19yos, so it’s good to see the club adding talent/quality that can have a more immediate impact.

They added Kreuger in that group too. I wouldn't be surprised to see them add another one or two at the end of the year - if we have the list space.

 

[Bianconeri]

This is a topic that always makes me laugh. I'd say most of the moaning about it comes from SA, where they think their state league comp. is much more important than it really is in the overall scheme of things! I had a Glenelg supporter (a very good friend of mine) complaining about it to me the other day. They have just lost a couple of players to this draft, so he'll be very unhappy now! Yet if a SANFL club had some really promising players starring for teams in their zone, and they thought they might be good enough to improve their team, they surely wouldn't hesitate to recruit them mid-season. I doubt that they would say "if we bring them in now it will really damage that club's hopes for this season", they'd just snap them up if they could! Of course it's inconvenient for any clubs to lose star players in the middle of the year, but 3 of the 6 players SANFL clubs are losing (Bauer, Carmichael and Menzie), as well as Derksen from the WAFL, have only gone there this year and all were from another state. Players like that don't go to those clubs hoping to play there for the next 10 years, they do it to try and get noticed and picked up by an AFL club. That's just the reality of the situation, and the moaning state league followers need to accept it!

It’s like Brazilian Soccer fans moaning about their players going to Europe mid season. It sucks but it’s their lot.

 

[golazo]

Wishful thinking, but if his SANFL form translates well to the VFL then I’d get him straight in the side to see if he gives us more than Tyler Brown

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Tyler Brown

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

3star

CL

0.6

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

7.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

2star

CL

0.6

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

7.0

5star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

 

[sr36]

This is a topic that always makes me laugh. I'd say most of the moaning about it comes from SA, where they think their state league comp. is much more important than it really is in the overall scheme of things! I had a Glenelg supporter (a very good friend of mine) complaining about it to me the other day. They have just lost a couple of players to this draft, so he'll be very unhappy now! Yet if a SANFL club had some really promising players starring for teams in their zone, and they thought they might be good enough to improve their team, they surely wouldn't hesitate to recruit them mid-season. I doubt that they would say "if we bring them in now it will really damage that club's hopes for this season", they'd just snap them up if they could! Of course it's inconvenient for any clubs to lose star players in the middle of the year, but 3 of the 6 players SANFL clubs are losing (Bauer, Carmichael and Menzie), as well as Derksen from the WAFL, have only gone there this year and all were from another state. Players like that don't go to those clubs hoping to play there for the next 10 years, they do it to try and get noticed and picked up by an AFL club. That's just the reality of the situation, and the moaning state league followers need to accept it!

The stupid thing is that it's good for the club. Sure there's the short term pain of losing a star, but clubs who have their blokes picked up get viewed as having excellent development programs and attract better young players.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Disregarding the coaching we could do a lot worse than getting someone 50% as good as Nathe

Would 50% of Nathan Buckley = a reasonable AFL player?

 

[Bianconeri]

We’ve been crying out for an extra big bodied mid, excited about this pick.

 

[magpie_marty]

Collingwood’s pick at No. 9, Josh Carmichael, has stunned veteran talent watchers including Kevin Sheehan.

Last year, Carmichael played for Merbein in a Covid-shortened Sunraysia league season and didn’t even win the club’s best and fairest.

In 2020, when Covid wiped out all country football, Carmichael went to Darwin to play in the Northern Territory summer competition.

He travelled back from Adelaide where he was attending university to play for Merbein last year before committing to playing for West Adelaide this season with devastating impact.

Carmichael represented South Australia after just six games and had clubs clamouring for him in the lead-up to the draft.

“The way he has played this year made him a certainty to get picked up,” Sheehan said.

“He had four or five clubs after him in the finish.

“He has come from nowhere to be honest.”

Merbein vice-president Craig Smith said the club was proud of the 22-year-old who had been averaging 25 possessions and a goal per game with West Adelaide this year.

“We knew he was as good as what he is, but no one else did,” Smith said.

“Through all the grades he has shown he has a great football brain and is willing to listen to people.

“He has literally come from the clouds.”
Magpies national recruiting manager Derek Hine likened Carmichael to West Coast’s Andrew Gaff

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Andrew Gaff

Age

32

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.6

5star

K

15.9

5star

HB

10.7

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

24.5

5star

K

15.6

5star

HB

8.9

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.0

3star

CL

2.5

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

0.6

3star

as a player.

“Going into the draft we had five names on the board, a mixture of talls and mids, and we were really fortunate to have Josh there,” he said.

“He’s proven in the SANFL he is more than capable of matching it against AFL-listed (players).

“He has had very limited exposure to an elite system so we’re really confident that when he comes in he will assimilate into the group really quickly.”

 

[jonbe54]

The stupid thing is that it's good for the club. Sure there's the short term pain of losing a star, but clubs who have their blokes picked up get viewed as having excellent development programs and attract better young players.

Agreed so long as it doesn't get to the situation that applied in 'Moneyball'.

Where poorer clubs were simply development feeder clubs for the 'power' clubs/

 

[well left]

I’d expect that Sunday might even be too soon to get him into the VFL side given he’s only getting in today but man it’d be nice to give him two VFL games before the bye.

I think you could give him pretty simple instructions to get him on the field Sunday and not be too worried about him knowing structures. Hopefully they can do it.


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[Jen2310]

 

[Couch Coach]

 

[Collingwood 4 eternity]

I’d expect that Sunday might even be too soon to get him into the VFL side given he’s only getting in today but man it’d be nice to give him two VFL games before the bye.

I think you could give him pretty simple instructions to get him on the field Sunday and not be too worried about him knowing structures. Hopefully they can do it.


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McRae saying on his Sen regular spot , that Josh will be at the AIA centre tomorrow afternoon , wont play VFL this week and will play somewhere the following week prob VFL

 

[sr36]

Would 50% of Nathan Buckley = a reasonable AFL player?

It'd take a magnificent surgeon to cut out the rights parts whilst keeping him able to play footy.

 

[Couch Coach]

Baby photo:
Well 2015

 

[Jen2310]

McRae saying on his Sen regular spot , that Josh will be at the AIA centre tomorrow afternoon , wont play VFL this week and will play somewhere the following week prob VFL

Then first training session will be early next week. There is a 8 day break between this weekend and QB

 

[Couch Coach]

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[well left]

McRae saying on his Sen regular spot , that Josh will be at the AIA centre tomorrow afternoon , wont play VFL this week and will play somewhere the following week prob VFL

Yep heard that. Josh wants to play this week but McRae more inclined to hold him back.


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[TheGreatGrundy]

It'd take a magnificent surgeon to cut out the rights parts whilst keeping him able to play footy.

If Buckley could kick 70 meters, would we be happy with someone who could only kick 35 meters, or someone who could only jump half the height of Buckley's leap? Someone who could only run half the speed of Buckley would move very slowly across the ground. Etcetera.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Baby photo:
Well 2015

He chews his bat. He was a chubby sort of kid who probably still needs to be careful with his weight.