Traded Josh Dunkley - [Traded with F3 (Melb), F3 to Brisbane for #21, F1, F2, F4 (Geel)]

[Lore]

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[go the dogs]

You know you could have used Pick 7 to do other things too right. Trade it for other picks. Trade it for the KPD you've been screaming out for years for. Those kind of things.

It wasn't ever 'useless'.

so we have to give up a contracted player then continue trading after to try and get a deal that helps us.

No thank you.

 

[faible]

It was pointless for us in 2019 unless we magically found a player with a week to go to come to us that fit a need.

Or swapped it for a future first, Richmond probably would have done it which would have given you Gibcus the following year. But all hypotheticals on that one.

 

[faible]

so we have to give up a contracted player then continue trading after to try and get a deal that helps us.

No thank you.

Well no. Dogs decided not to trade him at all, knowing it would likely result in the exact situation we're now in.

 

[adogsfan5]

Or swapped it for a future first, Richmond probably would have done it which would have given you Gibcus the following year. But all hypotheticals on that one.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

 

[Mofra]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

If we had to take picks for Dunkley (that we'd need to find a way to on-trade) or a Grand Final appearance with a crack at winning the damn thing, I'll take the Grand Final thanks.
I'd rather win games of footy than trade week.
Even with hindsight I'd glad we didn't trade him in 2020.

 

[hutchy31]

Bombers fans should probably be thankful that Dodo isn't winning another trade week, because when he does it rarely leads to anything good. As if there wasn't enough shit-posting in this thread.

Lobb is interesting, because he was an obvious one given where we sat mid-year (tearing our hair out at not having any viable second ruck options, while Naughton tried to do it all basically alone up forward). However, the dogs management might now be looking at JUH starting to come on, Darcy emerging and Bruce potentially coming back next year with a full preseason (and fingers crossed no more injury) and wondering why they'd overpay for someone at Lobb's age and with his good-but-not-great exposed form.

I'm still of the opinion we need a proven KPF/second ruck as I'm not sure Darcy will be able to do that in the short term, Bruce is probably not reliable and JUH isn't chopping out in the ruck. Plus we need some depth for English that isn't the ghost of Stefan Martin

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Stefan Martin

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38

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198cm

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99kg

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16.4

4star

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8.4

3star

HB

8.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

23.5

5star

D

6.4

1star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

CL

2.6

4star

HO

18.4

5star

D

11.6

3star

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6.0

3star

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5.6

4star

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1.0

4star

, or Sweet who Bevo won't play. So I'd be getting Lobb even if it is a slight overpay.

If we end up with F1 and Lobb (21) for Dunkley that's probably going to cause some melts on our board. But if that's what it is so be it. Winning trade week is one thing, delivering on the field is another (just to bookend this post for our Essendon contributors).

 

[adogsfan5]

If we had to take picks for Dunkley (that we'd need to find a way to on-trade) or a Grand Final appearance with a crack at winning the damn thing, I'll take the Grand Final thanks.
I'd rather win games of footy than trade week.
Even with hindsight I'd glad we didn't trade him in 2020.

Couldn’t be happier that we kept him.

 

[Mofra]

I'm still of the opinion we need a proven KPF/second ruck as I'm not sure Darcy will be able to do that in the short term, Bruce is probably not reliable and JUH isn't chopping out in the ruck. Plus we need some depth for English that isn't the ghost of Stefan Martin, or Sweet who Bevo won't play. So I'd be getting Lobb even if it is a slight overpay.

Lobb is more opportunistic chase than a desperate play, but his age (30) is ideal for Darcy's development. Sammy should be ready for forward/ruck duty in 2 years' time so Lobb makes perfect sense.

Ideally we would have grabbed some outside running capacity this trade period but our hand is pretty short and we really need to take picks to draft this year too.

 

[hutchy31]

Lobb is more opportunistic chase than a desperate play, but his age (30) is ideal for Darcy's development. Sammy should be ready for forward/ruck duty in 2 years' time so Lobb makes perfect sense.

Ideally we would have grabbed some outside running capacity this trade period but our hand is pretty short and we really need to take picks to draft this year too.

Yep, Naughton/Lobb/JUH forward with Darcy playing back. Can move Lobb into ruck, English/Naughton back to give Darcy some time up forward. No arguments from me if we finally have some options in those structurally important positions.

Acres feels like an opportunity missed. We'll need some of that from the draft this year I'd think.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Bombers fans should probably be thankful that Dodo isn't winning another trade week, because when he does it rarely leads to anything good. As if there wasn't enough s**t-posting in this thread.

Lobb is interesting, because he was an obvious one given where we sat mid-year (tearing our hair out at not having any viable second ruck options, while Naughton tried to do it all basically alone up forward). However, the dogs management might now be looking at JUH starting to come on, Darcy emerging and Bruce potentially coming back next year with a full preseason (and fingers crossed no more injury) and wondering why they'd overpay for someone at Lobb's age and with his good-but-not-great exposed form.

I'm still of the opinion we need a proven KPF/second ruck as I'm not sure Darcy will be able to do that in the short term, Bruce is probably not reliable and JUH isn't chopping out in the ruck. Plus we need some depth for English that isn't the ghost of Stefan Martin, or Sweet who Bevo won't play. So I'd be getting Lobb even if it is a slight overpay.

If we end up with F1 and Lobb (21) for Dunkley that's probably going to cause some melts on our board. But if that's what it is so be it. Winning trade week is one thing, delivering on the field is another (just to bookend this post for our Essendon contributors).

what do you want us to bookmark exactly?

that you are getting significantly less than you were offered 2 years ago for a F1 and Lobb? right after the kid wins your B&F.

yeah the egg sure is on our faces with this one........Lions are laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

You keep saying this like it's fact. It's not, but I don't want this to turn into another 30+ post discussion on Parish's kicking or another off-topic Essendon discussion based on what you (alone) think happened.
This is not the Essendon thread.

it is a fact.

but i agree. No more point discussing it.

 

[Mofra]

Yep, Naughton/Lobb/JUH forward with Darcy playing back. Can move Lobb into ruck, English/Naughton back to give Darcy some time up forward. No arguments from me if we finally have some options in those structurally important positions.

Acres feels like an opportunity missed. We'll need some of that from the draft this year I'd think.

Yep he's the one who would have been good for us. Bailey Williams and Anthony Scott are 'ok' on the wing, Roarke's had his moment too.
We're 'just ok' in that position and ripe for upgrades. Not is this trade period it seems.

 

[go the dogs]

Or swapped it for a future first, Richmond probably would have done it which would have given you Gibcus the following year. But all hypotheticals on that one.

that pick that would of got burnt on matching Sam Darcy?

 

[adogsfan5]

that pick that would of got burnt on matching Sam Darcy?

Haha Jesus I didn’t think of this myself!

 

[Surly Boy]

FWIW

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

It’s unlikely but the club are seriously fecked off.

Not just the dogs - the whole footy industry can see that Brisbane are playing really dirty here...
We can just hope that the karma bus runs over them and Dunkley in future.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

But if I’m really, really annoyed I can just ‘walk’ a non-consenting rogue to the PSD can’t I?

That’ll learn them all.

correct - that way everyone eats a sh1t sandwich... not just the Bulldogs

 

[Harris Specter]

Not just the dogs - the whole footy industry can see that Brisbane are playing really dirty here...
We can just hope that the karma bus runs over them and Dunkley in future.

Really dirty?
How is prioritising our club's needs first playing dirty? We went away to get more draft picks after Doggies refused to budge or offer anything of substance in return. There are a couple of big name players left in the trade period and no surprise that both of them involve the Bulldogs. Pot kettle black.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

No bulldogs fans have any regrets about holding him. Dunkleys 2019 year was outstanding and was in contract. Your offer was also crap. We backed ourselves to keep him long term and it hasn’t worked out. We will still get something decent back from Brisbane, and we move on.

We’ve also done him a complete favour by keeping him away from your club.

careful! He's a chance to be picked up by them in the PSD

 

[adogsfan5]

careful! He's a chance to be picked up by them in the PSD

Haha mate the PSD is not happening.

He isn’t going to Essendon, nor would he want to.

 

[Ant_]

Haha mate the PSD is not happening.

He isn’t going to Essendon, nor would he want to.

Probably not going to happen... be funny if it did

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

Well no. Dogs decided not to trade him at all, knowing it would likely result in the exact situation we're now in.

We made a GF with him being a massive part of that. Nearly paid off

Haha mate the PSD is not happening.

He isn’t going to Essendon, nor would he want to.

Is Essendon a better proposition now than 2 years ago...? They seem to lurch from disaster to disaster every year and I've forgotten what they were like back then.

 

[adogsfan5]

We made a GF with him being a massive part of that. Nearly paid off

Is Essendon a better proposition now than 2 years ago...? They seem to lurch from disaster to disaster every year and I've forgotten what they were like back then.

They are in a worse spot right now off the field.
They were just bog average on field in 2019. We beat them by 120.
On field I’d say they are better placed.

 

[faible]

Is Essendon a better proposition now than 2 years ago...? They seem to lurch from disaster to disaster every year and I've forgotten what they were like back then.

I'd say on-field yes, off-field will be shortly.

Scott gives some stability to the coaching situation, the CEO situation will get sorted soon enough, and the club itself is in a strong financial position with great facilities.

If Dunkley ends up at Essendon it gives him plenty of scope to play midfield minutes like he wants, but instead of competing for a Premiership in 2023 he'd be hoping for 2025 onwards. If he ends up in the PSD though surely North just grab him anyway so it's a moot point regardless.

Brisbane is the better option for near-term success undoubtedly.

 

[Mofra]

Brisbane is the better option for near-term success undoubtedly.

Aside from the fact Gold Coast are banking cap to keep Anderson & Rowell, it's also why Gold Coast aren't in the conversation for Dunkley. Likelihood of team success normally plays a part in trade choice.