Moved Thread Josh Kelly vs Marcus Bontempelli - who would you take now

[Engimal v3]

5mil for 6? Nah thats good business and value for the best small fwd in the game.
Bit different to 10 mil for 9.

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Oh is that all? I thought it was 6 for 6. Fair deal then.

 

[1990crow]

Bolded have no right to be there.

Have you watch Laird play? Most dominant back flanker in the league by far.

 

[Richo83]

Have you watch Laird play? Most dominant back flanker in the league by far.

I think Docherty is as good as Laird.

 

[Mofra]

Yes, Kelly is the complete midfielder and should be rated with the absolute stars. Huge tank too which is perfect for the modern game.

 

[1990crow]

I think Docherty is as good as Laird.

I rate Docherty very highly just not as highly as Laird. Different players though, I see Docherty more as a winger than backman.

 

[00Stinger]

Think you're underrating Treloar there.
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=2234

Really good player but is fast becoming extremely over rated

 

[Colonial]

Oh is that all? I thought it was 6 for 6. Fair deal then.

Thats what ive seen reported.

Like everything us plebs read its always with a grain of salt

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[Rance2Mewtwo]

I didn't think it was still possible in 2018, but Alex Rance is still underrated.

God-like influence on the game.

 

[Richo83]

I rate Docherty very highly just not as highly as Laird. Different players though, I see Docherty more as a winger than backman.

Players move around a bit, but Docherty mainly plays down back. He does shift forward, like many HBFs do, but he's a legitimate HBF.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Fair result.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

I see Zorko is as underrated as ever still. Below the likes of Betts and Mitchell.

Zorko isn't a patch on Tom Mitchell, so not sure why you are even making the comparison.

 

[schmuttt]

Martin, Dangerfield, Fyfe and Franklin are the top 4 players comfortably at the moment. As for who is in that 5-25 range it’s a bit harder.
Rance, J.McGovern, Kelly, Kennedy, Kennedy, Daniher, Zorko, Gray, Sloane, Selwood, Ablett (injured though), Bontempelli, T.Mitchell, Laird, Rioli, Betts, Shiel, Treloar, Merrett, Ryder, Parker and M.Crouch are all in the next group.

Laird is a top 25 player in the league?

LOL

 

[SuperSteele22]

Treloar will always have great stats, much in the same was that Matt Priddis did. He needs to learn to kick to go from top 50 to top 25.

Agree that he could tidy his disposal up a bit, although as far as your ‘needs to learn to kick’ comment goes, he’s miles away from being as bad as some people say

 

[SuperSteele22]

I didn't think it was still possible in 2018, but Alex Rance is still underrated.

God-like influence on the game.

Agree. Anywhere outside the top three isn’t high enough imo

 

[Tulip]

Agree that he could tidy his disposal up a bit, although as far as your ‘needs to learn to kick’ comment goes, he’s miles away from being as bad as some people say

He's not the worst kick in the game, but he needs to significantly tidy it up to be a truly elite player.

 

[Golden_6]

It's pretty meaningless to be honest. There's a clear top 3 midfielders and then you can almost throw a blanket over the next 10 and it simply comes down to personal preference.

 

[Tulip]

Have you watch Laird play? Most dominant back flanker in the league by far.

Of course I've watched him play. I'm one of the many SC players that loves him and locks him. On an individual level, I think he's the best HBF in the league. By far? Nah. Docherty and Hibberd were also AA last season, and have something to say about that.

 

[peppy la pew]

5mil for 6? Nah thats good business and value for the best small fwd in the game.
Bit different to 10 mil for 9.

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You've gone from 16 mill to 10 mill for Kelly, then you claim Toby Greene is the best small forward in the game.

It's good to have footy back

 

[Colonial]

You've gone from 16 mill to 10 mill for Kelly, then you claim Toby Greene is the best small forward in the game.

It's good to have footy back

I was out by a year. Give me a break.


Greene is. Not a doubt.

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[master bate]

Bit of an overreaction to a very good season by the players.

A healthy Shiel is better than Kelly. Stronger in tight and more explosive from the stoppages. Coniglio isn't far off either, for any one game I'd toss up Kelly or Coniglio.

Kennedy, a fit Beams, Cotchin, there's a number of mids still ahead of Kelly.

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

It's pretty meaningless to be honest. There's a clear top 3 midfielders and then you can almost throw a blanket over the next 10 and it simply comes down to personal preference.

Completely agree. Good point !

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Kelly is a gun but feel like his top 5 spot is maybe based (to a degree) on hype and his potential. Another big 2018 and could easily be in the convo though IMO.

Personally (bias aside), think Rance probably deserves a spot in that top 5. Been probably the best defender the last 4 or so seasons (only player to be in the AA team for all those years pretty sure) and coming off a season where he was voted AA captain. Then again, you can throw a blanket over the absolute top echelon of talent in the league so not an easy exercise to squeeze into a small group. Someone will always be unlucky to miss out.

 

[The Goon]

I was out by a year. Give me a break.


Greene is. Not a doubt.

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Betts?

 

[Richo83]

Bit of an overreaction to a very good season by the players.

A healthy Shiel is better than Kelly. Stronger in tight and more explosive from the stoppages. Coniglio isn't far off either, for any one game I'd toss up Kelly or Coniglio.

Kennedy, a fit Beams, Cotchin, there's a number of mids still ahead of Kelly.

Shiel is, yes underrated, but he's been injured which has fairly hurt his standings. Coniglio doesn't have the runs on the board that Kelly or even Shiel has.

I love Cotchin, but I'd take Kelly.

 

[Belnakor]

Fyfe needs to prove that he can get back to his best in the real AFL season. I'm not doubting that he can but on last years performance (which is well below what he's capable of) he wasn't even in the best 25 in the comp. Obviously the year before that he was injured so its been a few years 2015 since we saw him at that true elite level.

actually came 13th in the brownlow in a team that was frankly complete shit. His season only averaged 2 contested possessions less a game than his brownlow year coming off a broken leg. Definately top 25 in the comp.