Juddy v Maxwell

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This is a bit unfair TBH.

Nick was touted last year as future captain, given the number 5, and duly had a shocking year. Serviceable at best.

I think the sniper part was out of frustration at not being effective. When he ran through Muprh he hadn't touched the footy at all and Fisher was cleaning him up......and he wasn't getting back to help on Fev either.........just having a bad year.

Where I work is in Magpie heartland. None of the Pies fans I spoke to last year thought it was a good idea (many of them wanted Heath Shaw :D), and I doubt much has changed.......well.....on the Maxwell front at least.:eek:

Who knows though.......maybe after a year in the number 5 he may settle down and play some good footy again. 12 months ago I was wishing we had a Maxwell in our side............he may prove to be a good captain.:confused:
 
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Maxwell coming back.....a lot of votes for someone that hasn't even captained the club yet.

Yep.....I heard from the AA selectors that the only reason Maxwell didnt get the AA capt job ahead of Judd was that he hadnt had senior experience yet but they may consider him next year.

They did mention 1 other thing, that he wasnt good enough to get into the AFLs top 100 let alone the AA squad of 40 so he really didnt have any chance, and never will.
 

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Yep.....I heard from the AA selectors that the only reason Maxwell didnt get the AA capt job ahead of Judd was that he hadnt had senior experience yet but they may consider him next year.

They did mention 1 other thing, that he wasnt good enough to get into the AFLs top 100 let alone the AA squad of 40 so he really didnt have any chance, and never will.

What exactly is your point here? That Judd is a better player than Maxwell? MASSIVE call that one :rolleyes:, you Carlton supporters are funny.

Unfortunately for you, Judd is well past his best now. He is living on the hype of 2-3 years ago. It was almost embarassing that he was given the AA captaincy last year, given his form.

Maxwell might not be as good as Judd, but his heart is with the club and should lead the Pies into their 4th consecutive finals series. You can't say the same for Judd, and given how much you guys are paying him, you will need more than a token "AA Captaincy" to hang your hat on :eek:
 
Oh dear i feel sorry for you lot you post a poll on your own board asking who is the better captain judd or a guy from another team who hasnt even started the job.

I have a better idea for a poll on this board which club do you like the most Carlton or Collingwood that should attract some unbiased responses on the Carlton board
 
Oh dear i feel sorry for you lot you post a poll on your own board asking who is the better captain judd or a guy from another team who hasnt even started the job.

I have a better idea for a poll on this board which club do you like the most Carlton or Collingwood that should attract some unbiased responses on the Carlton board
Anything like the Judd vs Cousins threads on your own board?

Bumber about your end of season shindig on Sat night. :(
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24830101-2862,00.html
 
To be honest, Judd is the better player but at least Maxwell earnt the position not like Judd.

How do you earn the captaincy at colonwood ??? Is it like a raffle ?
Maxwell is a great selection by the pies ..he encapsulates everything about the club ..inarticulate battler whith the IQ of a lemon.
You braindead ferals will finally have somebody to look up to who actually speaks your language.

Poor old pies don't have a single player good enough to tie up Juddys laces, let alone compare with him as a leader. :eek:
 
Poor old pies don't have a single player good enough to tie up Juddys laces, let alone compare with him as a leader. :eek:

I know, the Collingwood list is woeful. I have no idea how they made the finals (again!), let alone actually winning one with the youngest list in 7 years.

It absolutely astounds me that Carlton could only manage to finish 11th with your superstar captain leading the way. Surely the Blues are better than that? Surely it's not that Judd is overrated and might not be as good as he was??? Nah, couldn't be that.
 
I know, the Collingwood list is woeful. I have no idea how they made the finals (again!), let alone actually winning one with the youngest list in 7 years.

It absolutely astounds me that Carlton could only manage to finish 11th with your superstar captain leading the way. Surely the Blues are better than that? Surely it's not that Judd is overrated and might not be as good as he was??? Nah, couldn't be that.
If we had 17 games at the MCG we would be in the same position as you. ;)

How did that young team of yours go in round 4 and 12?:confused:

It's posts like yours that invented the "Bump". :eek:
 
If we had 17 games at the MCG we would be in the same position as you. ;)

How did that young team of yours go in round 4 and 12?:confused:

It's posts like yours that invented the "Bump". :eek:

1. We both played 18 games in Melbourne last year. I am not sure what your point is on this one :confused:

2. It was beaten by Carlton. However, if we don't have any players "good enough to tie up Juddy's laces" then this is hardly a surprising result for you :confused:

3. What part of my post will you bump :confused: I am equally as surprised as you about Carlton not making the finals under the leadership of superstar Judd.
 
1. We both played 18 games in Melbourne last year. I am not sure what your point is on this one :confused:
MCG = Melbourne?

Who said magpie fans lack intelligence? :rolleyes:
2. It was beaten by Carlton. However, if we don't have any players "good enough to tie up Juddy's laces" then this is hardly a surprising result for you :confused:
Where did I say I was surprised?

Again there's that flawed magpie logic for you.:eek:
3. What part of my post will you bump :confused: I am equally as surprised as you about Carlton not making the finals under the leadership of superstar Judd.
Right.......of course.......there was NO sarcasm in your previous post..........much.:cool:
 
MCG = Melbourne?

Who said magpie fans lack intelligence? :rolleyes:

Where did I say I was surprised?

Again there's that flawed magpie logic for you.:eek:

Right.......of course.......there was NO sarcasm in your previous post..........much.:cool:

I can't see how it makes any difference if we play at Telstra (or should I say Etihad Stadium) Dome or the MCG. Both are in Melbourne yeah? We both played in Melbourne 18 times......and you accuse me of using flawed logic :eek:

Why did you bring those games up then? Because Carlton won right? Then how did we play in (and win) a final and you guys didn't even get close? Will go down as a great mystery I guess.

No, there was no sarcasm in my post. Juddy is a superstar as proven when he "earned" the AA Captaincy for 2008.

It just baffles me how the Blues don't play finals, when crap teams like Collingwood do.
 

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I can't see how it makes any difference if we play at Telstra (or should I say Etihad Stadium) Dome or the MCG. Both are in Melbourne yeah? We both played in Melbourne 18 times
Look at our results from both. We play the MCG much better than TD.
Your contention that there is no difference whether playing at the MCG or TD is ill informed, but given that you hardley ever play at TD its not surprising.
......and you accuse me of using flawed logic :eek:
Clearly.
Why did you bring those games up then? Because Carlton won right? Then how did we play in (and win) a final and you guys didn't even get close? Will go down as a great mystery I guess.
No mystery.
You get loads of freebies at the MCG which gets you into the finals. You then bow out early, in week 1 or 2 because you (as you pointed out) don't have the talent to go any further. You tread water while those around you move on.
How confident would you have been if you had played us in the first week of the finals?

As for not getting close, 1 1/2 games out isn't exactly miles off it either.
No, there was no sarcasm in my post. Juddy is a superstar as proven when he "earned" the AA Captaincy for 2008.
Really?
Surely it's not that Judd is overrated and might not be as good as he was??? Nah, couldn't be that.
Nah...couldn't be sarcasm............You idiot.:eek:

It just baffles me how the Blues don't play finals, when crap teams like Collingwood do.
Again, give us 16 games at the MCG and watch us play finals year after year.
 
Look at our results from both. We play the MCG much better than TD.
Your contention that there is no difference whether playing at the MCG or TD is ill informed, but given that you hardley ever play at TD its not surprising.

Clearly.

No mystery.
You get loads of freebies at the MCG which gets you into the finals. You then bow out early, in week 1 or 2 because you (as you pointed out) don't have the talent to go any further. You tread water while those around you move on.
How confident would you have been if you had played us in the first week of the finals?

As for not getting close, 1 1/2 games out isn't exactly miles off it either.

Really?

Nah...couldn't be sarcasm............You idiot.:eek:


Again, give us 16 games at the MCG and watch us play finals year after year.

Personal insults aside.......

Your main gripe from that post is the amount of MCG games Collingwood play compared to Carlton.

We played at the MCG 14 times in 2008. Win % = 57%
At Telstra Dome we have a Win % of 50%

Carlton's MCG win % is 44%
Telstra dome win % is 33%

Looking at that, you would at least need to get that win % above 50 before you think about playing finals.

Plus, didn't you guys actually sell your home games to the GC next year?

If you want to play at MCG more, then don't sell home games interstate. Request to play them at the MCG instead. I thought that would have been obvious?
 
Personal insults aside.......

Your main gripe from that post is the amount of MCG games Collingwood play compared to Carlton.

We played at the MCG 14 times in 2008. Win % = 57%
At Telstra Dome we have a Win % of 50%
1 out of 2?
Carlton's MCG win % is 44%
Telstra dome win % is 33%
Ah......now you see there is a difference.......well done.:thumbsu:

Plus, didn't you guys actually sell your home games to the GC next year?
Games?
Game. Singular, that would have been played at TD and played at a loss to our club due to the crowd we would get for Freo. Instead we make $400k.......and play on a bigger ground which suits us. Win win.

If you want to play at MCG more, then don't sell home games interstate. I thought that would have been obvious?
We don't sell MCG home games. You should do some more research before hitting "submit". ;)...........I thought that would have been obvious.:confused::eek:

School holidays that boring eh?
Ask mummy and daddy nicely and you might get to keep using the computer.
 
1 out of 2?

Ah......now you see there is a difference.......well done.:thumbsu:

Where did you get 1 out of 2 from :confused:

Difference being that even if Carlton had the same amount of MCG games as Collingwood, you still would not have done as well as us due to our higher winning %. God, it's not that hard to understand :mad:
 
Where did you get 1 out of 2 from :confused:

Difference being that even if Carlton had the same amount of MCG games as Collingwood, you still would not have done as well as us due to our higher winning %. God, it's not that hard to understand :mad:
Using the angry emoticon.........hmmm.......some keyboard rage?

Keep zeroing in on the points that allow you to keep arguing......brush aside the defeats like they were nothing..........truly a magpies supporter.:thumbsu:
 
Nick Maxwell is a terrible choice of captain for the Pies. He's just a cheap sniper, who shows some aggression. I guess it just shows how bad Collingwoods list is at the moment.

Given we've played finals for three years running and you lot haven't, what does it say about your list, then?
 
Given we've played finals for three years running and you lot haven't, what does it say about your list, then?

Our list has been crap. We're honest enough to admit it. You deluded fools are content to think yours is great because as usual the underachieving Pies "made the finals". A result Carlton tends to accept as a starting point only. History.
 
Judd led Carlton to 11th in his first year as skipper of the Blues. Let's see where the Pies finish this year, then we can use some cold hard facts to help us make an assessment.

Actually support this theory.

Lets have a look at what Maxwell can achieve in his first season in the role.

Also, whilst I'd pick Judd all day every day, thylacine, I don't think you can actually make claim to all of Judd's playing honours.

He did achieve all his playing honours for the Eagles NOT the Blues.

However, whilst he is worthy of the AA captaincy, everyone knew the honour should have been Harley's. That's not an aim at Juddy just truth.

Also, his B & F win this year was a sham.

Fev should have won by the length of the flemington had the award not been gifted to Juddy via his contract.
 
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