Jumper clash fails

[phantom13]

Disagree with that, and think need to change terminology too.

It isn't home or away kits - it should be preferred and alternate kits.

You use your preferred kit as much as you can.

No reason why if Carlton away to Sydney or GC that they should not play in their preferred full navy blue kit.

If two teams preferred kits dont clash, both should play in full preferred kit.

Firstly you can disagree with the policy and philosophy but the names are part of it. Home, away and clash IS literally my policy idea hence the naming convention.

Secondly and I’ve explained this as naseum. The purpose is to break any subjectivity from the policy. Part of the current issue is that every team WANTS to wear their preferred home kit every week which means the clash jumper policy is subjective, “is it a clash?”. Get rid of the ability to wear the home jumper if you’re the away team and all of a sudden nobody has that preference anymore.

Carlton v Collingwood is NEVER a shitshow because no one is getting the “traditional” kit.

Now I’ve openly admitted that if the current policy was just implemented properly my idea wouldn’t be necessary but the current policy clearly isn’t gonna be implemented properly. They’ve had however many years of it and we still get shit like Saturday night. I’m also well aware they’ll never implement my idea either but I’ll maintain to the grave it’s the best possible way to do it.

 

[phantom13]

Carlton could have 5 kits. A white clash. A yellow clash. Baby blue clash. Red clash.
Wont matter as they are not for big 4 away games

Hence the “away team wears away or clash jumper at all times” policy.

Again, it’s not necessary, I’ve said this over and over, but it is bullet proof.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Don't need 3

Just main (Home) / clash.

ie Freo away - wear main v Cats, wear clash v Carlton

The problem isn't that clubs don't have a clash, it's that the AFL doesn't direct clubs (ie Carlton) to wear it.

I'd say that for some (Carlton included) a third kit is superfluous... I'd have included Fremantle in that group but then they inexplicably wore their home guernsey with white shorts at an away game against Collingwood last year and now I don't know what to think.

There's nuance to it. I'd say essentially any team with a hooped or striped pattern (where it's practically 50/50 on the front) should have a third kit in a perfect world. Teams that have a healthy splash of three colours on the front of their guernseys should have a third: Adelaide, St Kilda, GWS, maybe Brisbane and the Bulldogs. For teams with only two colours and a clearly dominant colour like Carlton and Fremantle, they probably don't NEED a third option, but it wouldn't hurt to have a little fun with it, right? How good would it be for Fremantle to have the green anchor as their third choice?

As for when it's used, if we could trust common sense, I'd say you use the clash for all away games, unless it would objectively make things worse. But who would trust the league to get good outcomes with that much grey area involved?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Life would be a lot easier if each team was required to produce three uniforms, and the away team wears the one out of the three that produces the most contrast, irrespective of if the home team's uniforms are a bit dissimilar and can sort of been worn against each other.

I get that there's traditional home uniform vs home uniform matchups that will disappear but that's a cost that needs to be borne to make a good viewing experience. Irrespective of shorts.

For instance, with various shorts combinations, Carlton and Dogs wear navy and royal blue vs each other. I'm of the view that away teams should always be wearing white (or red or lime green) away in these games. I get royal vs Navy has existed since 1925, but I say cop it. Dogs wearing white vs Navy vs royal blue with navy (even if the Dogs have white shorts) is just that much better to watch.

The obligation of the away team is to create such a contrast as possible, once the home team has rightly enforced their desire to wear whatever uniform they want.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Knights v Thunder

 

[Commando]

Knights v Thunder

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Fair enough
Soccer usually has stark contrasts
FFV obviously didn't pick this up

 

[Billy ray]

Pfffftt. AFL would say white shorts will fix that

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

Knights v Thunder

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What would the AFL have done? Probably something involving sand and their head.

 

[KissKiss]

potentially some doozies today at 1:45. The AFL tend to let these ones go in this timeslot.

BL v GWS most likely pass the mustard - lions in full home and giants with the away guernsey and white shorts, but interested to see what they do with NM v WCE. Dare I say it, will NM be in blue shorts and WCE in blue guernsey with white shorts?

Giants in Orange with white shorts it appears to be. Havent seen the teams next to each other yet so not sure if its going to be an issue

 

[Commando]

Giants in Orange with white shorts it appears to be. Havent seen the teams next to each other yet so not sure if its going to be an issue

Should be in all white

 

[Simon Phoenix]

This is the best of GWS' kits for this game and it's still not great. Need to bring back the all white kit.

 

[manicmagpie]

Pretty savage clash between Port’s white jumpers and the several hundred seagulls at the G.

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

That strip St.Kilda wore today against the Tiges is a beauty. With the white back it feels better balanced & easy to contrast with. I'd adopt that as a preferred kit in a heartbeat. Not sure why, but strips that are predominantly white with a little of the secondary colour/s look so much better eg Pies & Swans. Well played Saints.

 

[oak79]

potentially some doozies today at 1:45. The AFL tend to let these ones go in this timeslot.

BL v GWS most likely pass the mustard - lions in full home and giants with the away guernsey and white shorts, but interested to see what they do with NM v WCE. Dare I say it, will NM be in blue shorts and WCE in blue guernsey with white shorts?

WC always wear yellow v Roos.

The white shorts is still a problem, but wasn't the worst clash ever.

Eagles should have been in blue shorts - or yellow...

 

[Mr39]

Pretty savage clash between Port’s white jumpers and the several hundred seagulls at the G.

Perhaps Melbourne should invest in some … tarps?

 

[eddiesmith]

Whilst a clear contrast tonight, so Sydney actually have white shorts or do they only ever wear red?

 

[Commando]

Whilst a clear contrast tonight, so Sydney actually have white shorts or do they only ever wear red?

White would look much better
The V is a much better guernsey too imo

 

[Wallaby]

White would look much better
The V is a much better guernsey too imo

I said that, (and probably every other supporter did too) when the Swans introduced the 'Opera House cutout' way back in - when was it - the 1920s? p). Seriously, the Opera house thing has always looked utterly terrible.

The Sydney Kings (bball) also did something similar with their singlets - I wonder if there was a State Govt thing re - 'You want some cash? This is what you need to do'.

 

[Soggy2112]

I said that, (and probably every other supporter did too) when the Swans introduced the 'Opera House cutout' way back in - when was it - the 1920s? p). Seriously, the Opera house thing has always looked utterly terrible.

The Sydney Kings (bball) also did something similar with their singlets - I wonder if there was a State Govt thing re - 'You want some cash? This is what you need to do'.

I disagree, the opera house looks great, and is a simple and timeless element of the jumper. I think it also does its job of linking the club to the city while maintaining the original Swans identity. They then have the South jumper to wear in Melbourne which gives it the perfect balance in my view.

 

[Commando]

I disagree, the opera house looks great, and is a simple and timeless element of the jumper. I think it also does its job of linking the club to the city while maintaining the original Swans identity. They then have the South jumper to wear in Melbourne which gives it the perfect balance in my view.

All I'm saying is the south jumper is infinitely better

 

[The Mailman Delivers]

I'm not too fussed about the opera house or a complete V on the front, but the white back with the red numbers creates a better & balanced top instead of one of these dumb half/half tops which the league should disallow.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Would have been nice for the Saints to break out the red shorts to go with this jumper.

 

[eddiesmith]

Port really should be made to wear white shorts as their jumper is mostly white.

 

[oak79]

Port really should be made to wear white shorts as their jumper is mostly white.

Really crows should be in a red or yellow based clash - but if not, yes port should be in white shorts