Workshop Jumper Ideas for 2016

[MKMatty]

Take 2

Good idea. Part of the reason I didn't want them any lighter is because they become a pale pink. However adding a darker red makes me question what colour the shorts should be.
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I've still gone lighter for the yellow one though because darkened yellow never looks good.
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As you can see I've copied the pattern onto the back to try and make it more interesting. It may be overkill, I'm still not sure.

To me, the red jumpers base colour is the lighter red. Maybe you could reduce the amount of alternative 'rays'? Maybe remove them from the yoke.

 

[The Half Back]

because a clash jumper has a purpose. it makes games easier to watch and distinguish teams.
you're essentially saying "let's allow everyone to have a choice in what they wear to home games.

except these three clubs."

as much as i like the North clash strip more than our home, i would hate it if we made it the home. there's so much history in our white with blue stripes jumper, why would we just throw it away.

no fan of North, Geelong or Hawthorn, except you apparently, would stand for it.
ever.

could not sum that up better mate!
Clash jumpers when used correctly make things so much easier for players, umpires and spectators to tell the difference

How can you talk about the tradition of keeping the old guernsey's then talk about wearing clashes for TV? You're contradicting your own point. You're either a traditionalist and you want all teams to wear their home kit, or you're willing to adapt to change, ie clash jumpers.

Which one is it?

 

[MKMatty]

How can you talk about the tradition of keeping the old guernsey's then talk about wearing clashes for TV? You're contradicting your own point. You're either a traditionalist and you want all teams to wear their home kit, or you're willing to adapt to change, ie clash jumpers.

Which one is it?

Or you're a bit of both.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

How can you talk about the tradition of keeping the old guernsey's then talk about wearing clashes for TV? You're contradicting your own point. You're either a traditionalist and you want all teams to wear their home kit, or you're willing to adapt to change, ie clash jumpers.

Which one is it?

I want the home team to wear what the home team wants.
And i want the away team to wear something that won't clash.

The home team will wear their traditional kit.
The away kit is something distinguishable.

there is no reason to force a team who's identity is around a light based jumper to change it, it's up to other teams to provide an alternative that won't clash.

 

[The Half Back]

Or you're a bit of both.

There's always grey area's isn't there haha.

 

[The Half Back]

I want the home team to wear what the home team wants.
And i want the away team to wear something that won't clash.

The home team will wear their traditional kit.
The away kit is something distinguishable.

there is no reason to force a team who's identity is around a light based jumper to change it, it's up to other teams to provide an alternative that won't clash.

But you want to change the identity of a team who's jumper is light based........if it clashes.

If it didn't clash for 80+ years, why does it clash now? And if it did clash for all those years, it was obviously not that much of an issue because the first away/clash jumper was worn by the Brisbane Bears in 1987, 90 years after the VFL was formed.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

do we need to keep dragging this out.
we've both argued the same points all night, i think i'm right and you think you are.
a home team should wear what it wants because it's the home team.
that's it. no buts.
there always was a clash, but people put up with it and could tell the difference, but the games become much faster now, and with television being the prevailing option to watch the game, ensuring teams look completely different is the best way to go about it.
If North wears their home kit to a home game, and Port can wear their home kit and it won't clash then yay, both teams get to wear their preferred kits.
if not, then bad luck, Port, wear your clash and deal with it.

forcing home teams to wear a dark kit is a terrible way to go about it.
with me being the negative speaker, you cannot rebut.
/debate

 

[MKMatty]

There's always grey area's isn't there haha.

Definitely.

I can understand both sides. And with a bit of tweaking, the current home/clash policy can be better.

Its largely to do with thus pushing of white clash strips. That's absurd in my opinion. By all means, if a team has white as a colour and it doesn't have a predominately white home, then clubs should explore that avenue. If they don't however, then the next best clash solving colour in their palette should be applied.

The only teams such a policy wouldn't work for is Essendon vs St Kilda away, and Carlton when they clash with WC. But it works in 98% of other cases. (On The Carlton side of it. They could go for any other shade of blue over a white clash).

Clash strips should also only be worn when the full Home doesn't work. Shorts also should never mix and match. View the whole strip as one unchangeable item. It over aspect doesn't work when the team played away, then the clash strip is worn.

So basically. Its Home jumper (and matching shorts) on all occasions. If the away team is hard to differentiate. Then they wear their clash strip.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

so what does North wear?
scrap white shorts altogether or white at home?

 

[MKMatty]

so what does North wear?
scrap white shorts altogether or white at home?

North wears white shorts at home. Royal shorts are exclusively for the clash strip.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

you're dead to me.

 

[MKMatty]

you're dead to me.

Haha.

Geelong and North are unique teams that I didn't consider when I constructed that.

Maybe they could be unique cases? Let them alternate based on the team they play at home?

 

[MKMatty]

Haha.

Geelong and North are unique teams that I didn't consider when I constructed that.

Maybe they could be unique cases? Let them alternate based on the team they play at home?

Coloured clashes and the removal of "white shorts for the away team" are the two things that need attention by the AFL.

 

[The Half Back]

North wears white shorts at home. Royal shorts are exclusively for the clash strip.

This and exactly this. If NM_Mitchell is insistent on wearing a predominantly white home guernsey, then predominantly white shorts would look more aesthetically appealing and would avoid a clash.

you're dead to me.

Can't have the best of both worlds mate.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

but blue shorts is our tradition.
and part of our preferred home kit.

 

[MKMatty]

but blue shorts is our tradition.
and part of our preferred home kit.

North could get away with it under this proposed system.

I was thinking about when the dogs would play away against North. But they could just have the red clash strip over the white one. SO that works out.

What about when North play Geelong at home though? Geelong in predominately navy clash?

 

[The Half Back]

but blue shorts is our tradition.
and part of our preferred home kit.

But it's mixing light top with dark shorts...

 

[NM_Mitchell]

North could get away with it under this proposed system.

I was thinking about when the dogs would play away against North. But they could just have the red clash strip over the white one. SO that works out.

What about when North play Geelong at home though? Geelong in predominately navy clash?

North in white top, white shorts, hooped socks, Geelong in navy top, navy shorts, and solid navy socks.
vice versa for North away.

But it's mixing light top with dark shorts...

not what i'm arguing.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

Port Adelaide
Home

Away

Clash

 

[Mero]

but blue shorts is our tradition.
and part of our preferred home kit.

It's Essendon's tradition to always wear a Black jumper with a Red sash.
That tradition has gone.
It's Collingwood's tradition to always wear Black & White stripes.
They've adapted to kinda almost nearly make it work.

As far as North wearing Blue shorts, they've worn Black shorts at home from 1925 to 1973, and Blue shorts from 1974 to now.
So actually, they've worn Black shorts for longer in their VFL history than Blue.
And going back in the past, they wore Navy Blue.
The current Clash policy lists Dark & Light uniforms. If North want their current Home (Light) jumpers, then the shorts that go with that are White.

Or change the Clash jumper policy.

 

[DoctorPav29]

Or change the Clash jumper policy.

Do that. We all know the current policy is a complete mess.

 

[Bacon Warrior]

A mixture of the current clash design and Bears chevron with the normal blue yoke thrown in.

Might not work against GWS' home jumper though.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

It's Essendon's tradition to always wear a Black jumper with a Red sash.
That tradition has gone.
It's Collingwood's tradition to always wear Black & White stripes.
They've adapted to kinda almost nearly make it work.

As far as North wearing Blue shorts, they've worn Black shorts at home from 1925 to 1973, and Blue shorts from 1974 to now.
So actually, they've worn Black shorts for longer in their VFL history than Blue.
And going back in the past, they wore Navy Blue.
The current Clash policy lists Dark & Light uniforms. If North want their current Home (Light) jumpers, then the shorts that go with that are White.

Or change the Clash jumper policy.

we've worn blue at home for each of our premierships, that's what you want to remember, not 50 years of **** all premiership wise.
our VFL/AFL identity is royal and white.
and North have no clash issue that isn't already sorted.
i'm not saying we only ever wear blue shorts at home, but i am saying that forcing us to change to a blue based kit is a little too far.
we should be wearing blue shorts to any game that it doesn't cause an issue, and there is plenty that they won't, but be willing to wear white if needed.

 

[The Half Back]

we've worn blue at home for each of our premierships, that's what you want to remember, not 50 years of **** all premiership wise.
our VFL/AFL identity is royal and white.
and North have no clash issue that isn't already sorted.
i'm not saying we only ever wear blue shorts at home, but i am saying that forcing us to change to a blue based kit is a little too far.
we should be wearing blue shorts to any game that it doesn't cause an issue, and there is plenty that they won't, but be willing to wear white if needed.

Well if you're talking about premierships, shouldn't they be wearing the kangaroo with half stripes because that's what they wore when they won them?

 

[Gibbsy]

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A mixture of the current clash design and Bears chevron with the normal blue yoke thrown in.

Might not work against GWS' home jumper though.

You still prefer the Costa lion, BW?