Coach Justin Longmuir

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I’ve got my favourite for head coach but I’ve come around to the idea in trusting the committee decision. When Hawthorn were a mess and were looking for a coach Mathews, Eade and Ayres were the media and supporter favourites and then this angry no name called Clarkson aced his interview to the point where Dunstall said “he is the man”. Hopefully Belly and or McPharlin can do the same for us.
 
Scham said:
The other way to look at it is, that despite hanging in there at GC, no one has poached him. If he was as good as you’re making out, they would’ve, or he would’ve got the top job last year.
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Seen variants of this logic linked to 3 different potential candidates now, and have to say I don't get it. The fact that a different organisation with a different culture, strategy, and structure haven't employed a person for a vacancy has very limited relevance to another organisations decisions. It's kind of like suggesting that you shouldn't buy a car that's the right for your personal circumstances because if it was any good someone else would of bought it already.

I'm sure glad that my employers over the years haven't taken that type of logic into hiring consideration, or I would never have had the oppurtunities I have had!
 
Last decade or so I've been on a number of interview panels for top appointment re education/schools. Is always interesting how you can have great candidates and sometimes not so great in terms of resume and experience.....but until they interview you don't really know because you need the criteria in front of you that has been fairly rigorously developed and prepared, the interview, and panel discussion to tease out various anomalies etc.

It really is "if the cap fits this situation" through that process with more often than not the best resume not getting the guernsey. That said, different school, different circumstances of need re where it's at, and one who missed out only weeks before is a good fit and gets the gig.

Would think it fairly similar re selecting an AFL coach for your club. Right one for the right time.
 

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Seen variants of this logic linked to 3 different potential candidates now, and have to say I don't get it. The fact that a different organisation with a different culture, strategy, and structure haven't employed a person for a vacancy has very limited relevance to another organisations decisions. It's kind of like suggesting that you shouldn't buy a car that's the right for your personal circumstances because if it was any good someone else would of bought it already.

I'm sure glad that my employers over the years haven't taken that type of logic into hiring consideration, or I would never have had the oppurtunities I have had!
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Employers actually do place importance of where you have worked into hiring consideration, and by a substantial margin. On a resume your experience and what you have produced means a significant amount more than what degrees or qualifications you have, and if you have been unemployed for X amount of time it makes finding work that much harder.

Solomon's CV is currently peanuts compared to other potential candidates, it would be shocking if he got a head coaching gig anywhere at this point.
 
holybishop said:
www.foxsports.com.au

AFL 2019: Essendon next coach, John Worsfold out after 2020, succession plan to Ben Rutten, Bombers coaching situation

Essendon is set to inform John Worsfold the 2020 season will be his last as senior coach.
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That's dumb as fk
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yes go figure...they are trying to guarantee someone in whose not quite available, but not necessarily Rutten I suspect. Could be Solomon..has been talk there keen on him. Wonder how all this will sit with Worsfold with Fremantle and Adelaide vacancy.
 
tacopavlich said:
Employers actually do place importance of where you have worked into hiring consideration, and by a substantial margin. On a resume your experience and what you have produced means a significant amount more than what degrees or qualifications you have, and if you have been unemployed for X amount of time it makes finding work that much harder.

Solomon's CV is currently peanuts compared to other potential candidates, it would be shocking if he got a head coaching gig anywhere at this point.
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and there in what you have said "tacopavlich", lay most of the screening and sorting out of the reasonable number that may be contacted and or apply. Only a handful will get to an interview per se as it will be evident they are not suitable at this time. Word of mouth behind the scenes does go a long way to opening the door for some where there is a more informal opportunity. Don't think it will happen too often anymore in AFL.
 
Purpellian Anchor said:
Last decade or so I've been on a number of interview panels for top appointment re education/schools. Is always interesting how you can have great candidates and sometimes not so great in terms of resume and experience.....but until they interview you don't really know because you need the criteria in front of you that has been fairly rigorously developed and prepared, the interview, and panel discussion to tease out various anomalies etc.

It really is "if the cap fits this situation" through that process with more often than not the best resume not getting the guernsey. That said, different school, different circumstances of need re where it's at, and one who missed out only weeks before is a good fit and gets the gig.

Would think it fairly similar re selecting an AFL coach for your club. Right one for the right time.
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Mind you interviews can be one of the most wobbly parts of the selection kitbag, fully susceptible to unconscious and not so unconscious biases. Good idea to be run as scientifically as possible.
 
arsesmart said:
Mind you interviews can be one of the most wobbly parts of the selection kitbag, fully susceptible to unconscious and not so unconscious biases. Good idea to be run as scientifically as possible.
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Surely in the coaching game interviewing well is an absolute essential. As a leader of men, with whom it is critical to establish confidence, belief, faith etc. There is absolutely no room for someone who doesn’t speak well and command respect in a one on one setting.
 

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tacopavlich said:
Employers actually do place importance of where you have worked into hiring consideration, and by a substantial margin. On a resume your experience and what you have produced means a significant amount more than what degrees or qualifications you have, and if you have been unemployed for X amount of time it makes finding work that much harder.

Solomon's CV is currently peanuts compared to other potential candidates, it would be shocking if he got a head coaching gig anywhere at this point.
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Sure, but that’s not the point that was being made. Go back and read the post I quoted and look at similar posts. The suggestion is that the club should consider where the candidate has not been employed!

If Solomon is not a good fit and his experience base doesn’t fit the clubs requirements then fine. The fact that other clubs haven’t employed him as a Senior Coach should not be a consideration.
 
Dockernut said:
Surely in the coaching game interviewing well is an absolute essential. As a leader of men, with whom it is critical to establish confidence, belief, faith etc. There is absolutely no room for someone who doesn’t speak well and command respect in a one on one setting.
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Whilst I haven't hired too many people who gave poor interviews, I have certainly regretted hiring a few people who gave good ones.

It's a fraught process.
 
Paracleet said:
Whilst I haven't hired too many people who gave poor interviews, I have certainly regretted hiring a few people who gave good ones.

It's a fraught process.
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Absolutely right. After many years of hiring senior exec type roles I have settled on using aptitude testing and personality profiling to shortlist followed by assessment centres to assess candidates suitability. This combination has proved far more reliable in selecting senior leaders than interview for our organisation. You do need to have some HR horsepower to for this, though certainly possible for a small business like a football club to bring consultants in to facilitate such a process.
 
Snuffaluphagus said:
I mean, if we offer him the job, there is no way he's taking their position over ours. They need a complete reboot and are about as far away from competing as Gold Coast
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Plus he would avoid living in Adelaide :moustache:
 
theGav56 said:
Solomon; No experience coaching for a team in the finals, versus Longmuir at a team in contention. It would need to be a spectacular interview from him, but an assistant position could work for both parties.
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WHo is to say Solomon even gets an interview, Bell has been over East talking to multiple potential candidates, not all of them are even going to get a formal interview
 
Paracleet said:
Whilst I haven't hired too many people who gave poor interviews, I have certainly regretted hiring a few people who gave good ones.

It's a fraught process.
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Building yourself up for a 1 hour window to interview vs operating at a club day in day out with a group of players, and other coaches, and other things like media, tactics, planning etc.
 
No 1 criteria will be the deciding factor. The best fit will be someone that has the right personality and intellectual nouse. But, can also demonstrate that nouse not only in the interview but actually give examples or real life situations.

I understand that a dark horse may get the gig due to the above and none of us will know how the interviews go. That’s why when commenting on Solomon I said we “should” be able to find better.
 
Midnite65 said:
WHo is to say Solomon even gets an interview, Bell has been over East talking to multiple potential candidates, not all of them are even going to get a formal interview
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Due Diligence.

If assistants/coaches make themselves known to be interested, an initial interview,whether formal or informal, should be conducted.
No stone unturned.
 
I hope the Clarkson rumour is true... I’m aware that this is highly unlikely but I’m going to dare to dream even if it effectively means I’m going to be very disappointed.
Old mate Prestapino makes a compelling case although I suspect he may be on Big Footy and trolling us with his column in WA Today.
 
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