Bring back Drum
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Don’t be too hard on the NRL, it keeps a lot of thugs off the streets for large periods of time!
Coach Justin Longmuir
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What results?
Not having a go, but Jlo has far less 'results' than Sumich for example.
Just from what we hear from WC and Collingwood. Organised forward line at WC and organised backline at Collingwood. But then again people probably said the same about Drum, I guess.
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Ha! Fair enough.You must have been typing out your reply as I was editing the clarification of head coaches.
I hope Freo pick up a good 1. Freo is probably my 2nd team being born and raised in WA. Unless they appoint Brad Scott then I'll be going for another team other than dogs for my 2nd.
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Mind you it's a fair contrast between coaching a representative side for 4 or so games and coaching a side across 20+ weeks a season. I'm not sure how much that really prepares or tells you about preparedness for an AFL head coaching gig.
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When was the last time a coach had previously head coached at the carnival before becoming a club head coach? Has it ever happened?
No I meant South Fremantle. The representative side is a little different. He did a good job bringing them together and playing for the WA jumper though. Seemed to allow them to play to there strengths.
In 2000-01? Shirley that currency has expired?
On the representative coaching, it's a completely different dynamic than what you've got to deal with as a coach of a regular footy team, with the grind of a pre-season and across a number of months. Although getting them to play together as a team would need that additional focus and they seemed to have an edge in that regard over some of the other teams at the champs.
I'm not sure why the currency would have expired he has had the experience in, as you said the grind of the pre-season etc. My only concern is he hasn't got recognisable up-to-date coaching systems experience. For all we know he fully understands it, but he isn't currently displaying it at the highest level
Your second sentence answered your first. It's not that his time coaching way back when didn't have some value, but that it's so far back it would be totally superseded by the experiences since. That would include Longmuir's experiences being more valuable than that too.
As for the third, we could say that about anybody who's been involved coaching at a fairly high-level professional footy club though.
I'm not sure about your first point. While some things would need to be updated, I still don't think the knowledge gained from the experience isn't useful or transferable.
As for applying to all, you would wonder where they have learnt it or how they came to decide on the system and whether it has been implemented successfully. Justin seems to be able to show that at least. Assomeone on here said , everything Justin has been required to do has purred along effectively and smoothly. You can only do, what you ave been asked to do. Clarko was the same, as was Simpson.
What is the rush? If he's basically a lock, I'd rather see him help Collingwood all the way through to a flag, that would be invaluable experience for him.
People are mentioning that Drum was also getting pumped up before we took him on but I am wondering how well was the team(s) he was coaching at performing at the time.
I think the fact Longmuir has been doing well at successful clubs could be a point of difference but I don't know the history of Drum
I think the fact Longmuir has been doing well at successful clubs could be a point of difference but I don't know the history of Drum
Connolly said the same thing about Waterman, but he didn't show anything at Subi. I guess we can only look at Longmuir's success on his designated lines.
Head Coach: Justin Longmuir
Director of Coaching: Alistair Clarkson
Defensive Coach: Andy Otten
Midfield Coach: Anthony Rock
Ruck & Tall Forward Coach: David Hale
Forwardline Coach: Peter Sumich
Head of Academy/Development: Peter Sumich
Lock it in Belly.
Director of Coaching: Alistair Clarkson
Defensive Coach: Andy Otten
Midfield Coach: Anthony Rock
Ruck & Tall Forward Coach: David Hale
Forwardline Coach: Peter Sumich
Head of Academy/Development: Peter Sumich
Lock it in Belly.
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Duff with some interesting things to say about Suma's chances after his comments re West Coast last week on duff and quarters pod. Sounds like Suma killed his chances and burnt alot of bridges with WC and the commission.
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So we lure Clarkson over to not be head coach? This is getting silly now.
Drum basically went from coaching Port Melbourne in the VFA for a year to lob into special project Sydney with Barassi and with Lockett the next year. So it was all up from there, with the GF in 1996 under Rocket Eade and finals a constant. On the coattails of that success Drum was one of the highest touted coaching prospects going around (apparently Collingwood courted him before Freo). Of course Freo was anything but an AFL special project and Drum was unable to achieve anything resembling success.
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