Coach Justin Longmuir

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holy diver said:
15 points was the margin.

If Ballantyne and Fyfe kicked the goals they missed then different story. (Ballantynes the worst - could've passed to walters open in the square - didnt choose team football)

That is on the players. The coach can't kick the goals for the player.
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We should of been 5.2 instead of 1.6 at halftime and pretty much level with hawks. Putting a massive effort in the 3rd quarter to get back in the game cooked us for the last. Goal kicking was the difference
 

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Bradesmaen said:
They only interviewed 3 people.. two who are ex Fremantle and one who is a WA boy.
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You could make the argument only ex Freo were interested in the job at all. We were snubbed by Voss which says a great deal. But considering the circumstances we could have done much worse than Longmuir tbh.

Not happy about sacking Lyon but happy to give Longmuir a fair chance. I just fear we might find out the grass is not always greener on the other side.
 
I'm nervous because he looks similar to kane cornes and thats really scary.
Like really scary!!
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Its the same smile,
that damn smile.

In all honesty the grand final showed to me that in an era of defense you must have a brand of offense that the opposition defense cannot stop. Hawks from 2013-15, bulldogs 2016, richmond 2017 + 19 and west coast 2018 all had this in contrast fremantle, sydney, adelaide and gws all had an offence that could be stopped and they weren't successful. As a person who's grown up coaching wise in this era who has coached back-line and forward not midfield this must surely help.

So im right behind him and it may take time to implement a new style so we must be patient.

In regards to ross thought he was tactically brilliant anyone who watched that geelong game could see that conca taging duncan to stop their ball movement, hill to the forward flank (who didn't stay their) to improve our forward fifty entries. Ross was hilarious with the media and you were confident we were going to push top four next year with him in charge. But the thing about ross he had issues, only looked after his favorites, only playing the soldiers results in a team of soldiers rather than a team full of talent, boring style to watch, that thing with the women last year can't quite remember what he did, Coaches under him got burnt out. Brilliant coach but time to let him go.
 
FreoGirl said:
I don’t think we should have replaced the coach we had unless someone spectacular came along instead of “he’ll do”
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Personally I think Lyon should have been allowed to see his contract out, but the logic of letting him go a year early makes sense, even if I don't agree with it

What has my attention is the perspective of some posters that we should be challenging in the next 12 months since we have a fundamentally solid list. There's a few assumptions in that (Hogan being back to his best is one). And that's not accounting for the impact that Hill and Langdon have on the team as gutrunners who are on the move when everyone else is static. It'll be a big loss if they go, and whether we have Lyon or Longmuir doesn't change that. I'm more concerned about the state of our list than who is coaching :p

I think longer term having a 'family friendly' coach will make it easier to attract guys to play for the club - for now though, the options of who we can bring in through trade are pretty uninspiring :p And draft options will take a few years to impact. JLo at least will be given time that Lyon wouldnt be. The problem I think is more in our list and our medical team than it is our head coach
 
Arcassius said:
Personally I think Lyon should have been allowed to see his contract out, but the logic of letting him go a year early makes sense, even if I don't agree with it

What has my attention is the perspective of some posters that we should be challenging in the next 12 months since we have a fundamentally solid list. There's a few assumptions in that (Hogan being back to his best is one). And that's not accounting for the impact that Hill and Langdon have on the team as gutrunners who are on the move when everyone else is static. It'll be a big loss if they go, and whether we have Lyon or Longmuir doesn't change that. I'm more concerned about the state of our list than who is coaching :p
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We still have a bit of pace in the side fyfe is top 5 in long distance at the club and quite quick over the short.
Brayshaw and Tucker are quick and so is sHill.

Wilson, Henry, Switta and Sturt are quick add an Aish or Stephens and we aren't slow.
 
Van_Dyke said:
To be fair most coaches take some time to become polished media performers. RTB came to us after being a head coach for 5 years, naturally he was going to be far more polished.
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I'd rather he can coach than be good at talking to the media.

That doesn't win you flags

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SupersonicDocker said:
Haven't posted on here in maybe 8 years, have quietly jumped back in occasionally to feel connected to the purple army as a Melbourne resident.

I think much like when Ross came on, it brought about change for the better at the club. There is no denying Ross Lyon was a classic old school footy coach that got the club to take the training wheels off.... But I think we should be excited that a guy with Fremantle blood, who is more than qualified for this gig, who was in demand from multiple teams, is now stewarding the club into a new era.

Can't wait for 2020 and I know he will be a great leader.
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Don't make it 8 years to the next, OK? ;)
 
dropbear101 said:
We still have a bit of pace in the side fyfe is top 5 in long distance at the club and quite quick over the short.
Brayshaw and Tucker are quick and so is sHill.

Wilson, Henry, Switta and Sturt are quick add an Aish or Stephens and we aren't slow.
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It's the outlet that Langdon and Hill provide - it's not so much top end speed as it is distance covered consistently to provide a short option (or to break lines as defenders are rolling back). They're both best-22 players, so replacing them in their role with other best-22 players is shifting a problem sideways. Having Wilson, Tucker, Switta and Brayshaw in those winger type roles means Brayshaw for example isn't in the centre clearance, or Wilson isn't breaking the lines from defense. We might be able to cover them, but we aren't a better team without them

If we add a best-22 player from another club (either in the same role, or in another role where they might be stronger than say Brayshaw enabling Brayshaw to move to the wing) then it will balance out. Until then, it's hard to suggest that untested players like Sturt, or moving players sideways will cancel out the loss of our gut runners. Maybe they will - but I'm not confident we'll be as strong next year as we were this year (injuries aside)

tl;dr; i'm waiting to see what happens with Hill and Langdon, who we bring in, and what happens with Hogan before taking a punt on how we'll go next year :p
 
holy diver said:
15 points was the margin.

If Ballantyne and Fyfe kicked the goals they missed then different story. (Ballantynes the worst - could've passed to walters open in the square - didnt choose team football)

That is on the players. The coach can't kick the goals for the player.
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Was an incredibly flattering margin mate. We were a rabble most times we played them not just the granny.
 

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Not sure why people are complaining about this appointment. JLo is a good choice for the modern game.

Fact is, we were going nowhere under Lyon and he showed conclusively that he could not adapt to the way the game is run these days. There was absolutely no point in continuing with a bloke who was never going to improve.

I'm looking forward to the much needed changes that are coming
 
This could really go down two extreme pathways...

Deep down, I do think 2020 is going to be tricky. Maybe even 2021.

2022 it's going to click for everyone though.
 
Arcassius said:
It's the outlet that Langdon and Hill provide - it's not so much top end speed as it is distance covered consistently to provide a short option (or to break lines as defenders are rolling back). They're both best-22 players, so replacing them in their role with other best-22 players is shifting a problem sideways. Having Wilson, Tucker, Switta and Brayshaw in those winger type roles means Brayshaw for example isn't in the centre clearance, or Wilson isn't breaking the lines from defense. We might be able to cover them, but we aren't a better team without them

If we add a best-22 player from another club (either in the same role, or in another role where they might be stronger than say Brayshaw enabling Brayshaw to move to the wing) then it will balance out. Until then, it's hard to suggest that untested players like Sturt, or moving players sideways will cancel out the loss of our gut runners. Maybe they will - but I'm not confident we'll be as strong next year as we were this year (injuries aside)

tl;dr; i'm waiting to see what happens with Hill and Langdon, who we bring in, and what happens with Hogan before taking a punt on how we'll go next year :p
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Next season is a write off, we have to go backwards to go forwards imo. We have to pray fyfe is playing elite footy at the age of 30 because we are ****ed for the next year at least.

I don't even expect our game plan to be overly different. I just want a hand full of our kids to show genuine development towards elite. Namely Cerra, Brayshaw, Blakely, Tucker, Wilson, McCarthy.
 
Steinfreo said:
Next season is a write off, we have to go backwards to go forwards imo. We have to pray fyfe is playing elite footy at the age of 30 because we are f’ed for the next year at least.

I don't even expect our game plan to be overly different. I just want a hand full of our kids to show genuine development towards elite. Namely Cerra, Brayshaw, Blakely, Tucker, Wilson, McCarthy.
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Don't really think Longmuir, Bell, Alcock and a new CEO will accept next year as a write off. Lions, Bulldogs and Tigers have all come from 13th to figure prominently in past seasons.
 
JLo will get a lot better quickly with his media performances. He stumbled around for 20 mins but that last few minutes where he stopped over thinking what he was trying to say and spoke from the heart and with humour is where he needs to position himself with his public persona. I suspect that's how he is with the players so have no concerns about that side of his coaching now.

He's actually had a blessing in disguise. Showing vulnerability is hugely appealing to humans. Him being nervous will make people like him and want to go on his journey of growth. Sure some people will have doubts but they'd have plenty of those with an untried head coach anyway.
 
Arcassius said:
It's the outlet that Langdon and Hill provide - it's not so much top end speed as it is distance covered consistently to provide a short option (or to break lines as defenders are rolling back). They're both best-22 players, so replacing them in their role with other best-22 players is shifting a problem sideways. Having Wilson, Tucker, Switta and Brayshaw in those winger type roles means Brayshaw for example isn't in the centre clearance, or Wilson isn't breaking the lines from defense. We might be able to cover them, but we aren't a better team without them

If we add a best-22 player from another club (either in the same role, or in another role where they might be stronger than say Brayshaw enabling Brayshaw to move to the wing) then it will balance out. Until then, it's hard to suggest that untested players like Sturt, or moving players sideways will cancel out the loss of our gut runners. Maybe they will - but I'm not confident we'll be as strong next year as we were this year (injuries aside)

tl;dr; i'm waiting to see what happens with Hill and Langdon, who we bring in, and what happens with Hogan before taking a punt on how we'll go next year :p
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-Hill yes but langdon distance covered isn#t that impressive for afl what he for our two km time trial.

- Fair enough about stifling brayshaw and tuckers development but if we draft stephens and hill is fit hopefully we wont have to.

-You misinterpreted my mentioning of wilson, sturt and henry as half backers and half forwards can push right up the ground be aggressive with their positioning and act as midfielders sort of. this helps limit the loss of two quality wingmen.

-adding another best 22 player from another club sounds good and i like the idea of mason wood especially if hes that big bodie sitting out the back of a stoppage as wingmen sometimes do.
-Yeah i agree our wings won't be as good next year.
 
Media performance is over-rated. Control the conversations with good football and wins, then everything else follows. Deflect the irrelevant stuff and don't give any oxygen, and just stick to your message. I think he will be fine, but that doesn't mean he/we won't continue to cop a poor deal from the media.
 
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