USA Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

[bourbons]

Cheers so a pretty small sample, bit lie any other poll. Could be as accurate as TV ratings which we all know are not accurate.

From what I understand a bit larger sample size than most political polls.

89% vs 48% majority support, it would have to be ridiculously out of whack with about a 20% margin of error to alter the main takeaway - that on a pure policies basis Harris' and the Dems' are clearly more popular once the partisan blinkers are removed.

That a heap of people regularly vote against their own interests in the US isn't all that debatable I would have thought. Another example from 2020;

 

[Freomaniac]

He'll crash the economy and his family and their mates will hoover up what's left over. He will literally govern for the 1% and for some reason you think that's a great idea.

Yeah I can see that happen.

Donald Trump wants to make America Great again... well a minority or a small part of America great again

 

[Osho]

George is pissed.
"“Donald Trump pays $100,000-a-year to the Screen Actors Guild and has a star on Hollywood Boulevard. I don’t have a star on Hollywood Boulevard, but Donald Trump does,” he swiped.

He also bashed Trump’s onetime chief strategist Steve Bannon, calling him “a failed f***ing screenwriter.”

How much did Trump pay Hulk Hogan and his other high profile supporters to support him?
"...Harris’ campaign team paid $1 million to Oprah Winfrey’s Harpo Productions after she hosted a townhall for the vice president in September.

An appearance on the Call Her Daddy podcast was said to have cost six-figures. Now, vendors and staff are worried they won’t get paid with rumours that her last-ditch efforts has left the Harris election bid $20 million in debt."

Trump Trolling hard.
"In response to the Democrats woes, Trump has urged the GOP to do “whatever we can do to help them.”"

May God save America.

George Clooney staying quiet about politics after Trump thumps Harris?

George Clooney reportedly has made a vow to stay quiet about politics after Kamala Harris' loss to Donald Trump during last week's election.

torontosun.com

 

[the_interloper]

But Harris ran a flawless campaign.
Misogyny and race did her in.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/11/06/msnbcs_joy_reid_this_was_a_historic_flawlessly_run_campaign_kamala_harris_had_every_prominent_celebrity_voice.html

Are you being serious?

 

[bourbons]

I wouldn’t base my entire campaign on being trendy.

Lucky they didn't do that then I guess.

 

[blueboy25]

An appearance on the Call Her Daddy podcast was said to have cost six-figures. Now, vendors and staff are worried they won’t get paid with rumours that her last-ditch efforts has left the Harris election bid $20 million in debt."

Trump Trolling hard.
"In response to the Democrats woes, Trump has urged the GOP to do “whatever we can do to help them.”"

May God save America.

George Clooney staying quiet about politics after Trump thumps Harris?

George Clooney reportedly has made a vow to stay quiet about politics after Kamala Harris' loss to Donald Trump during last week's election.

torontosun.com

They should not pay the bills like Trump did for a lot of his events in 2020.

 

[bourbons]

A winner. Of course.

Trump literally pretending to jack off and felate a mic = not sexual, fine for my daughter to be exposed to
A dance move during a live music performance = sexual, don't want my daughter exposed to that

Never change stokester

 

[bourbons]

Guess we assume they were OK with Trump fellating a mic.

Of course he is, its Trump.

Bloke could twerk on his daughter's lap and he'd be fine with it

 

[Not Important]

he comes across as a heartless racist. he should fit into the trump admin like a hand in a glove.

 

[Not Important]

But Harris ran a flawless campaign.
Misogyny and race did her in.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/11/06/msnbcs_joy_reid_this_was_a_historic_flawlessly_run_campaign_kamala_harris_had_every_prominent_celebrity_voice.html

you don't read very widely do you?

 

[Osho]

you don't read very widely do you?

Why so much snark? Oh, right, you're smarter than everyone else. Except, your sarcasm detector is faulty.

 

[Osho]

Are you being serious?

I'm sorry you have to ask.

 

[Not Important]

Why so much snark? Oh, right, you're smarter than everyone else. Except, your sarcasm detector is faulty.

so i'm snarky rofl.

i was merely drawing attention to the fact that an overwhelming number of opinion pieces have provided evidence the harris campaign was far from flawless. you pick one minority view, add your sarcasm to it, and do so in reply to the “notus” piece in my post - which you clearly didn’t read - which covered countless reasons for the dems failure.

 

[the_interloper]

I'm sorry you have to ask.

Let me tell you, if that's what the Democrats base their strategy on after losing this election they'll get smashed in 2028 as well.

 

[Bloods86]

Let me tell you, if that's what the Democrats base their strategy on after losing this election they'll get smashed in 2028 as well.

They didn't this time, so...

 

[the_interloper]

They didn't this time, so...

Fair enough. I guess what I meant was if that’s what they think the reasons they lost the election are, well they’re going to get done again.

I mean if you thought swapping Harris for Waltz would have got them home you’re kidding yourself.

 

[Bloods86]

Fair enough. I guess what I meant was if that’s what they think the reasons they lost the election are, well they’re going to get done again.

I mean if you thought swapping Harris for Waltz would have got them home you’re kidding yourself.

There'd be some who switched, but would have hurt them with others.

Even in campaigning, while the Dems responded to certain comments about gender and race from Republicans, there was far less attention on race or gender being a factor e.g. than with Obama as first black President or Clinton as first woman ("I'm with her") this time around.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Of course he is, its Trump.

Bloke could twerk on his daughter's lap and he'd be fine with it

The world is not in a good way.

 

[spinynorman]

You might wonder how Harris' campaign had $1 billion donated to it and has ended up $20 million in debt.

Well, kind of stunning insights.

There were seven swing-state concerts that involved high-priced performers — Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Jon Bon Jovi, Ricky Martin and more — who seemingly ended up costing the Harris campaign more than $20 million on event production alone, and reportedly even more on paying the celebrities to appear. Even Oprah Winfrey charged the campaign $1 million to show up. The campaign went so far into debt that the campaign was reportedly forced to scrap Canadian Nineties indie-pop singer Alanis Morissette to save money. The pop concert campaign strategy is said to have been the brainchild of former Obama advisors on the campaign.

They also paid $450,000 a day to have ads run on the Las Vegas Sphere.

Perhaps some of this should've gone on canvassers and organisers.

 

[happy_eagle]

You might wonder how Harris' campaign had $1 billion donated to it and has ended up $20 million in debt.

Well, kind of stunning insights.

There were seven swing-state concerts that involved high-priced performers — Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Jon Bon Jovi, Ricky Martin and more — who seemingly ended up costing the Harris campaign more than $20 million on event production alone, and reportedly even more on paying the celebrities to appear. Even Oprah Winfrey charged the campaign $1 million to show up. The campaign went so far into debt that the campaign was reportedly forced to scrap Canadian Nineties indie-pop singer Alanis Morissette to save money. The pop concert campaign strategy is said to have been the brainchild of former Obama advisors on the campaign.

They also paid $450,000 a day to have ads run on the Las Vegas Sphere.

Perhaps some of this should've gone on canvassers and organisers.

I remain skeptical on the positive impact of celebrity endorsement, particularly weighed against the outlay.

 

[the_interloper]

There'd be some who switched, but would have hurt them with others.

Even in campaigning, while the Dems responded to certain comments about gender and race from Republicans, there was far less attention on race or gender being a factor e.g. than with Obama as first black President or Clinton as first woman ("I'm with her") this time around.

You’re right, I mean Obama seemed to talk about gender a bit in his cheerleading but Kamala didn’t, at least I don’t recall it.

Both sides went to the centre a bit in the campaign, the Republicans a bit more pragmatic about abortion from what I noticed, not sure how much that helped

 

[KAYNE]

From what I understand a bit larger sample size than most political polls.

89% vs 48% majority support, it would have to be ridiculously out of whack with about a 20% margin of error to alter the main takeaway - that on a pure policies basis Harris' and the Dems' are clearly more popular once the partisan blinkers are removed.

That a heap of people regularly vote against their own interests in the US isn't all that debatable I would have thought. Another example from 2020;

In terms of sample size that is a very large sample size for a survey. I work in insights and have run a number of surveys.

While I haven't had time to read the full report having gone through parts of it.

My initial worries is it's too long. People start just clicking through very quickly to get it done (The surveys we do essentially people get things like flybuys points for finishing them).

There is always a worry of honesty etc but these are just a guide and in general are a pretty good guide. In terms of presenting results you could really find numbers in the data to support both Harris and Trump. (having the raw data would be very interesting)

I am not sure if I would be looking at the data and saying oh look Trump supports are dumb they prefer Harris. If I was using the data for insights I would look at the biggest issues and overlay with % of time each candidate spent time talking about them.

Also advertising spend and amount of ads. Harris campaign spent over double of Trumps but did that advertising actually help Trump in the end. They liked the policies but couldn't directly relate them back to Harris.

 

[liz]

I remain skeptical on the positive impact of celebrity endorsement, particularly weighed against the outlay.

It hadn’t occurred to me they were paying these celebs. I had assumed - clearly naively - that the celebs were endorsing because they believed in what they were endorsing and in the value of doing so. It’s not like Oprah needs another $1m.

 

[Romeoh1]

It hadn’t occurred to me they were paying these celebs. I had assumed - clearly naively - that the celebs were endorsing because they believed in what they were endorsing and in the value of doing so. It’s not like Oprah needs another $1m.

I find it hard to believe Beyonce was paid to do the endorsements- has this actually been shown to be factual?
If the celebs were paid to do endorsements, than it’s bs.

 

[Chief]

I wouldn’t base my entire campaign on being trendy.

Depends what’s “celebs” as well. Of course both parties used them but Trumps weren’t pop stars.

Yes - Kid Rock is not a star at all.