USA Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

[faible]

Half an answer. Is Kamala Harris part of the Left?

'left' by US standards and left by most other democratic standards are very different things.

 

[Maggie5]

This video doing the rounds on social media currently won’t do Harris any favours with the young voting block!

You don't happen to be in that age group? Please don't be gullible and doing the job of those that don't post full context.

Here is the context:

The video has been cropped and stripped of its context.

The clip shared on social media matches exactly between timestamps 17:38 and 18:00 of a longer video
, opens new tab published in May 2014 by the Ford Foundation, one of the largest private foundations in the United States.

The full video shows Harris talking about how "Back on Track," a program aimed at reducing recidivism among young people, can help those arrested on low-level charges by having charges dismissed after completing the program (around 16:00).
The wider quote before the snippet shared on social media shows Harris saying: "When I was at Howard University and we were in college, we were 18-24 and you know what we were called? College kids. But when you turn 18 and you're in the system, you are considered an adult, period."

At about 20:00, she says that in five years, the program helped reduce recidivism among young people from 54% to less than 10%.
Reuters previously addressed the narrative circulating online prior to the 2020 presidential election, when Harris became the first woman, first Black American and first Asian American to win the second highest U.S. office.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

 

[QuietB]

I have already posted this.

In 2020 GovTrack placed her in the most left category based on her involvement in congress sub voting. If that has changed than i am OK to be corrected.

That does not answer the question. That just means she is further left than a large part of congress, many of whom fit into the “lunatics on the right” and very few of who fit into the “lunatics on the left” who for the most part simply do not get elected into USA congress.

You do not get to run for President in the Dems by being left. You don’t get anywhere being left in the USA.

Anyways, the whole left right thing is pretty meaningless in my opinion, being a lunatic is pretty relevant though so I am glad you do not consider Kamala Harris a lunatic.

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

You don't happen to be in that age group? Please don't be gullible and doing the job of those that don't post full context.

Here is the context:

The video has been cropped and stripped of its context.

The clip shared on social media matches exactly between timestamps 17:38 and 18:00 of a longer video
, opens new tab published in May 2014 by the Ford Foundation, one of the largest private foundations in the United States.

The full video shows Harris talking about how "Back on Track," a program aimed at reducing recidivism among young people, can help those arrested on low-level charges by having charges dismissed after completing the program (around 16:00).
The wider quote before the snippet shared on social media shows Harris saying: "When I was at Howard University and we were in college, we were 18-24 and you know what we were called? College kids. But when you turn 18 and you're in the system, you are considered an adult, period."

At about 20:00, she says that in five years, the program helped reduce recidivism among young people from 54% to less than 10%.
Reuters previously addressed the narrative circulating online prior to the 2020 presidential election, when Harris became the first woman, first Black American and first Asian American to win the second highest U.S. office.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

ok have it your way- here’s the full video:



Explain how the longer video makes the context any better?

 

[Anzacpaul]

lol what the.

I'm a trump supporter just because you say i am?

I couldn't care less if Harris or Trump wins, it doesn't change my life.

The world will keep spinning regardless who wins.

These are mutually exclusive things.

There's a very real chance that Trumps election could have an effect on Australia in the long term, especially if he decides Xi is his new best mate.

 

[Nikita Blue]

You don't happen to be in that age group? Please don't be gullible and doing the job of those that don't post full context.

Here is the context:

The video has been cropped and stripped of its context.

The clip shared on social media matches exactly between timestamps 17:38 and 18:00 of a longer video
, opens new tab published in May 2014 by the Ford Foundation, one of the largest private foundations in the United States.

The full video shows Harris talking about how "Back on Track," a program aimed at reducing recidivism among young people, can help those arrested on low-level charges by having charges dismissed after completing the program (around 16:00).
The wider quote before the snippet shared on social media shows Harris saying: "When I was at Howard University and we were in college, we were 18-24 and you know what we were called? College kids. But when you turn 18 and you're in the system, you are considered an adult, period."

At about 20:00, she says that in five years, the program helped reduce recidivism among young people from 54% to less than 10%.
Reuters previously addressed the narrative circulating online prior to the 2020 presidential election, when Harris became the first woman, first Black American and first Asian American to win the second highest U.S. office.

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/clip-harris-calling-young-people-stupid-lacks-context-2024-07-26/

Thanks Maggie. Not to mention that the person posting is one of the heaviest promoters of the Pizzagate bs.

 

[faible]

ok have it your way- here’s the full video:



Explain how the longer video makes the context any better?

You haven't watched it have you?

She pretty well explains it.

And yes, 18–24 year-olds are prone to making stupid decisions. There's a reason car insurance is more expensive for that age bracket, or why they can't get rental cars.

That doesn't mean they're uneducated, or that they shouldn't get to vote. Her whole point seems to be that in a college setting we consider them kids, we nurture them and educate them and accept that they'll make mistakes as they're becoming adults. Meanwhile, in the legal system we consider that exact same cohort that has huge amounts of money pumped in to colleges and educational programmes, as adults and sanction them accordingly.

You only have to go back around a minute from the 17:38 - 18:00 clip floating around on social media to hear that context.

 

[geoffjennings79]

it wont matter in the slightest to Australia who wins.

By "Australia", do you mean people who live here other than you? Do you mean trade, diplomatic and global geopolitical impact? Or I guess you didn't consider Australia is part of the broader planet?

 

[Satan]

Thanks Maggie. Not to mention that the person posting is one of the heaviest promoters of the Pizzagate bs.

rita?

 

[HirdsTheWord]

By "Australia", do you mean people who live here other than you? Do you mean trade, diplomatic and global geopolitical impact? Or I guess you didn't consider Australia is part of the broader planet?

let me put it this way.

regardless of whether its Trump or Harris that is voted in, geoffjennings79's Monday 4th of November, will look eerily similar to his Monday 11th of November, and every other Monday after that.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

These are mutually exclusive things.

There's a very real chance that Trumps election could have an effect on Australia in the long term, especially if he decides Xi is his new best mate.

of all the things to be potentially worried about, i'd highly doubt that one.

lol

If you havent noticed. We rely on China a lot for trade, without them our Economy is cooked. So, if US strengthens relations with China regardless of who the president is, we will likely benefit from it.

 

[Not Important]

interesting take on the issues kamala has to confront.

The fight ahead for a Harris presidency

If Kamala Harris is to become president of the United States, she will do so by galvanising the Democrats’ most loyal source of support – Black women.

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

 

[Not Important]

saw him for the first time on the pbs newshour a week or so ago. impressive.

Why Kamala Harris should pick Tim Walz as running mate | Mehdi Hasan

This isn’t rocket science. The Minnesota governor is the obvious choice – allow me to make the clear case for Walz

www.theguardian.com

 

[Maggie5]

saw him for the first time on the pbs newshour a week or so ago. impressive.

Why Kamala Harris should pick Tim Walz as running mate | Mehdi Hasan

This isn’t rocket science. The Minnesota governor is the obvious choice – allow me to make the clear case for Walz

www.theguardian.com

I have gone from Beshear, then Shapiro and after watching Walz now think she might pick him.

Either way, such a good field and wouldn't surprise me if I was wrong on any of the three I have mentioned.

 

[Romeoh1]

I think they are BOTH bad candidates.

They both, including Harris have very poor approval polling ratings for Americans.

That’s not an answer though- what has she actually done that you don’t like?
Also this view you have that it’s not going to make a difference to us, which candidate gets in- as an example-go and read Stephen Bartholomeusz in the age today and see how destabalizing to the whole world trump’s ludicrous ideas are. ( he covers financial aspects).

 

[Festerz]

Managed to find what appears to be the Buttigieg Fox interview without any social media nerds adding their commentary over the top.



Have they not learned that if you want to trip Pete up you're going to have to be a hell of a lot smarter?

He whooped her. In the most calm and measured way possible. On her and the MAGA home ground.


He used facts rather than out-of-context rhetoric and hyperbole though. The MAGAs who watch Fox, and the cooker cousins who watch Sky News here, don't see the difference so it will not sway them.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

That’s not an answer though- what has she actually done that you don’t like?
Also this view you have that it’s not going to make a difference to us, which candidate gets in- as an example-go and read Stephen Bartholomeusz in the age today and see how destabalizing to the whole world trump’s ludicrous ideas are. ( he covers financial aspects).

COVID mismanagement, immigration mis management, economy mis management etc etc.

IMO all Bidens failings are hers also. At least she knows where she is though.

Better question is what has she done right? her polling approval ratings are negative, for a reason.



Thats not to say Trumps got a gleaming resume either - they are both bad candidates.

 

[faible]

COVID mismanagement, immigration, economy etc etc.

IMO all Bidens failings are hers also.

Better question is what has she done right?

So to clarify; Biden and ‘etc etc’.

 

[Spirit Level]

Boogers are you also a rapist defender?

 

[Romeoh1]

COVID mismanagement, immigration mis management, economy mis management etc etc.

IMO all Bidens failings are hers also.

Better question is what has she done right? her polling approval ratings are negative, for a reason.

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Thats not to say Trumps got a gleaming resume either - they are both bad candidates.

Think you’ll find the U.S. economy is in pretty good shape thanks to Joe. Think you’ll find most of the Covid mismanagement happened under trump.
Where did you get that poll? Think you’ll find her approval has jumped a lot in two weeks.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Think you’ll find the U.S. economy is in pretty good shape thanks to Joe. Think you’ll find most of the Covid mismanagement happened under trump.
Where did you get that poll? Think you’ll find her approval has jumped a lot in two weeks.

First of all I cleary said Trump is a bad candidate also.

How many times has the US raised the debt Cap under Bidens and Harris watch? "Healthy economy" lol. that's a good one. US Debt has been skyrocketing since Obama took control, Trump added to it, and Biden administration even more so.

US Debt to GDP is just a casual ~120%

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

You can see her and others ratings here;

Kamala Harris : Approval Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

it's quite a good site that collates polling from others sources, so it's got a fair bit of data, as opposed to smaller poll views which are more skewed. I'm not sure what approval rating you are seeing rise, but across the board its getting lower. You probably saw a small poll suggest that.

 

[darrenmorgan]

First of all I cleary said Trump is a bad candidate also.

How many times has the US raised the debt Cap under Bidens and Harris watch? "Healthy economy" lol. that's a good one. US Debt has been skyrocketing since Obama took control, Trump added to it, and Biden administration even more so.

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

You can see her and others ratings here;

Kamala Harris : Approval Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

its quite a good site that collates polling from others sources, so its got a fair bit of data, as opposed to smaller poll view.

The US has the best performing economy since Covid of any industrialised nation by some way.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/us-economy-2024-gdp-g7-nations

 

[HirdsTheWord]

The US has the best performing economy since Covid of any industrialised nation by some way.

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/31/us-economy-2024-gdp-g7-nations

Yeah, and the trade-off is their national debt is sky rocketing, which is why they have to continually raise their debt ceiling cap in congress. Essentially US Debt is growing faster than its GDP.

When you create stimulus into the economy the economy does well, but the debt also grows.

To put into perspective Australia's debt is roughly 35% of GDP, the US is roughly 125%.....

read this.

Fact-checking Biden on debt accumulated under Trump

During his 2024 State of the Union address, President Joe Biden referred frequently to his "predecessor," who happens to

www.politifact.com

Biden admin in 4 years, added almost as much as Obama admin did in 8 years! Trump admin is little better.

TLDR - any economy can look good when you are just handing money out.

 

[ferball]

I'm not sure. Just know it's a right-leaning outlet.

Washington Times Media Bias Rating

Learn the AllSides Media Bias Rating of Washington Times. AllSides rates the media bias of hundreds of news outlets, media sources and writers.

www.allsides.com

Its the Moonies.

 

[Chief]