USA Kamala Harris the 47th President of the United States - Hopefully.

[Stokey]

Hey I just mentioned socialism, which you may find relevant to Kamala.

I mean I don't, but you might.

Btw question without notice, how do you think the electoral collage will turn out?

I don't either.

I read somewhere that even though it is neck and neck nationally the probability of the winner getting over 300 is around 60%. That is how I feel. It's most likely to be around the 300-310 range for the winner.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Well when one person only ever criticises one side of politics and never the other, they aren't a serious person and deserve to be called out.

It doesn't give them extra ammo, as we all know their game. Its like those "enlightened centrists" on youtube who only ever criticise the democrats while always giving Trump and the republicans a free pass.

One can argue their points as being wrong (which I do) but then they try and muddy the waters in weird false equivalences that make no sense akin comparing an elephant to a mouse and claiming they are the same size.

Have you seen the many questions which have been asked of these people which are never answered properly?

'Have you seen the many questions which have been asked of these people which are never answered properly?'

This is my point, just because they haven't answered properly does not equate to guilty of trump support.

Is it likely? Yeah of course, but you shouldn't use it as a 'I know you support trump', and claim it as an absolute, use absolute evidence instead.

You're not alone here btw, which is why there is opposition, not coz they don't endorse openly.

What you're doing here is giving them ammunition 'you don't have evidence of me supporting trump', I'll go so far as to say you're biased against their 'support for trump' (which is fine).

The point is you only have speculation (however likely it is)of their support. That immediately discredits argument against them.

Yeah I know it shouldn't but it does.

 

[Blue1980]

'Have you seen the many questions which have been asked of these people which are never answered properly?'

This is my point, just because they haven't answered properly does not equate to guilty of trump support.

Is it likely? Yeah of course, but you shouldn't use it as a 'I know you support trump', and claim it as an absolute, use absolute evidence instead.

You're not alone here btw, which is why there is opposition, not coz they don't endorse openly.

What you're doing here is giving them ammunition 'you don't have evidence of me supporting trump', I'll go so far as to say you're biased against their 'support for trump' (which is fine).

The point is you only have speculation (however likely it is)of their support. That immediately discredits argument against them.

Yeah I know it shouldn't but it does.

I don't think they ever use this defence that they don't support Trump. You are inventing an argument they aren't even making.

Even if they use that argument, what would it matter? They are just shit posters who only ever criticise the dems and laugh at any criticism of the GOP and Trump as hyperbole.

 

[Captivating]

What happened to all the joy?

Harris and her campaign are now all about Nazis and Fascism

 

[Seeds]

It was blocked by 6 Democrats. Not Trump.

Thats such a cop out and you know it. We arent discussing what a couple of fringe democrats would do. We are talking about trump. If republicans voted for the policy they wanted it would of passed. But it didnt because trump told them not to vote for it. On the border trump was the same as a handful of democrats on the extreme left.

Now try answering the question rather then deflecting. How can you say trump believes in border protection when he asked republicans not to vote for border protection leaving the border exposed for another year?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Agree with your characterisation of Trump and Miller.
But you have no answer for the one really important question, which is:

How is it that Trump carried out an attempted coup 4 years ago, aiming to overthrow the US Constitution, yet now is free to campaign across the country, supported by an armada of fascists within the Republican party ?

If history is any guide, political figures who carry out an attempted coup which fails are either: in exile, in prison, or dead.

Yet Trump is now on the verge of becoming the next President, and is openly broadcasting his intentions to overthrow the election result should it not be in his favour.

You are unable to explain this conundrum because you believe that the Democrats are "better" , or "more committed to democracy" than the Republicans.

My guess…Friends in high places, very high. Captured judges. Aiming to do things by the book to appear fair. Giving Trump too much leeway. Delay after appeal after appeal after delay by Trump camp.Hoping the GOP would do the right thing . Not wanting to stoke a MAGA uprising?
TOC is not easy or quick to deal with..
Garland surely seems to have failed.

 

[OneGreatClub]

What happened to all the joy?

Harris and her campaign are now all about Nazis and Fascism

They are the joy.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

Thats such a cop out and you know it. We arent discussing what a couple of fringe democrats would do. We are talking about trump. If republicans voted for the policy they wanted it would of passed. But it didnt because trump told them not to vote for it. On the border trump was the same as a handful of democrats on the extreme left.

Now try answering the question rather then deflecting. How can you say trump believes in border protection when he asked republicans not to vote for border protection leaving the border exposed for another year?

I have seen several questions asked of Stokey. Has he disappeared again?

 

[OneGreatClub]

Surely there's a Hitler thread somewhere all this can be posted in.

Can we get back to talking about Kamala.

Making you feel a bit uncomfortable is it, the Nazi talk? Hard to defend?

 

[OneGreatClub]

"Ancestry". "ethnicity" plays no role in the formulation of political policy.
All that matters is class interests.

That is why Zelensky, who is Jewish, leads a government populated by anti-Semitic fascists.

Both agree that the Ukrainian capitalist class can enrich itself by supporting the NATO war drive against Russia.

That is why German imperialism is happy to back Israel all the while as it commits genocide of the same nature as the Nazis during WW2 against the Jewish population.

That is why Zionist leaders prior to WW2 were happy to collaborate with Hitler if he agreed to deport German Jews to Israel. They agreed with Hitler's racialist hatred. Only they claimed that the Jews were the supreme race, in opposition to Hitler who claimed instead that Aryans were the supreme race.

However, what matters is that both Hitler and the Zionists represented the same class interests: that of a capitalist class which aspired to dominate a land mass and extract profits from the superexploitation of the working class.

That is why Elon Musk, who is a vicious anti-Semite, went to Israel and shook the hand of Netanyahu. Netanyahu is carrying out a genocide on behalf of the US corporate oligarchy, of which Elon Musk is a member.

There are just too many examples to list.

Geez so many untruths in one post.
You have zero understanding about Ukraine Russian history.
I guess you swallow RT.

 

[Stokey]

Thats such a cop out and you know it. We arent discussing what a couple of fringe democrats would do. We are talking about trump. If republicans voted for the policy they wanted it would of passed. But it didnt because trump told them not to vote for it. On the border trump was the same as a handful of democrats on the extreme left.

Now try answering the question rather then deflecting. How can you say trump believes in border protection when he asked republicans not to vote for border protection leaving the border exposed for another year?

It's not deflecting. I just stated a fact that goes against your narrative. Even Anderson Cooper at the Harris CNN didn't buy that Trump is to blame for the border.

This is just a Dem tactic. Do unpopular things you want for 3 years then when an election is nearing say things need to change.

You come across as one of the more reasoned posters. I can't believe you've fallen for this.

 

[Stokey]

Making you feel a bit uncomfortable is it, the Nazi talk? Hard to defend?

You have literally lost your mind if you think Trump is Hitler and the MSG rally was a Nazi rally.

I fear there is no coming back for you. Trump in the picture or not.

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

You have literally lost your mind if you think Trump is Hitler and the MSG rally was a Nazi rally.

I fear there is no coming back for you. Trump in the picture or not.

He sure has you conned then, but we knew that already. You are in a cult and it is sad actually.

 

[OneGreatClub]

It's not deflecting. I just stated a fact that goes against your narrative. Even Anderson Cooper at the Harris CNN didn't buy that Trump is to blame for the border.

This is just a Dem tactic. Do unpopular things you want for 3 years then when an election is nearing say things need to change.

You come across as one of the more reasoned posters. I can't believe you've fallen for this.

Trumps own people said he blocked the border bill.
You have perfected cherry picking which is of course a requirement if you are to defend your shaky position of loving Trump.