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Re: King and Gardiner gone
8 out,whos in,Davenport, Domsey,????
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King/Gardiner Traded to the Saints
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Re: Oh Charlie & King...
On the face of it, it looks a strange move, but it's pretty obvious we're trying to get as many picks as we can so we can upgrade rookies.
Davenport and Londergan are certainties to be added to the list.
Lets look at things rationally, the players we've lost King, Callan, Playfair, Gardner, played a grand total of 10 senior games for the whole year.
All of them have been around the club for at least 5-6 years.
We've picked up a couple of extra draft picks and we can use our last pick on our father-son selection.
I'm sad that King has gone, but he was passed his best at Geelong and obviously now they've signed Blake they are looking towards him as the future along with West.
King was a luxury in the Grand Final because we would have played Blake had we have been playing anyone else. King's time had come at Geelong and we sen him out with 2 premiership medals in his last week, I think that's a pretty fair completion.
I think he's probably got 2 years left in him if he stays injury free and I hope he does well with StKilda (who potentially could be very dangerous in the ruck now if Gardiner comes back).
As far as I can see it, we've got rid of some deadwood, freed up the salary cap a bit and might pick up some late gold in the draft if we're lucky
On the face of it, it looks a strange move, but it's pretty obvious we're trying to get as many picks as we can so we can upgrade rookies.
Davenport and Londergan are certainties to be added to the list.
Lets look at things rationally, the players we've lost King, Callan, Playfair, Gardner, played a grand total of 10 senior games for the whole year.
All of them have been around the club for at least 5-6 years.
We've picked up a couple of extra draft picks and we can use our last pick on our father-son selection.
I'm sad that King has gone, but he was passed his best at Geelong and obviously now they've signed Blake they are looking towards him as the future along with West.
King was a luxury in the Grand Final because we would have played Blake had we have been playing anyone else. King's time had come at Geelong and we sen him out with 2 premiership medals in his last week, I think that's a pretty fair completion.
I think he's probably got 2 years left in him if he stays injury free and I hope he does well with StKilda (who potentially could be very dangerous in the ruck now if Gardiner comes back).
As far as I can see it, we've got rid of some deadwood, freed up the salary cap a bit and might pick up some late gold in the draft if we're lucky
Re: King and Gardiner gone
Although dissapointed that King and Charlie only earnt us pick 90, i think the club has made a tough but neccesary decision to chop them.
This way when injuries strike players like prismall, Djerkurra, Varcoe, West< Gamble will not be held back by tried and tested players.
Although dissapointed that King and Charlie only earnt us pick 90, i think the club has made a tough but neccesary decision to chop them.
This way when injuries strike players like prismall, Djerkurra, Varcoe, West< Gamble will not be held back by tried and tested players.
Re: Oh Charlie & King...
No, it's not. Donohue is locked in for our final pick no matter what number it is, and the fact is we were never going to use more than four picks in the draft anyway. So only our top three matter, which are now 17, 34 and 44. Whether our last one is 45 or 90 or 190 is completely and utterly irrelevant - it will be used on Donohue.
In fact our fourth pick is 50, so the 62 we get from the Dogs for Callan and the 90 we get from the Saints are both completely useless to us and therefore completely valueless. We have given all three players away, which in one way is fine as we would probably have delisted them all anyway.
In my book, the smart move would have been trying to use these three players to upgrade picks 34 and 44. Our last live pick was 44, so only picks better than that mean anything to us, so I sincerely hope we tried to upgrade it before settling for 62 and 90.
No, it's not. Donohue is locked in for our final pick no matter what number it is, and the fact is we were never going to use more than four picks in the draft anyway. So only our top three matter, which are now 17, 34 and 44. Whether our last one is 45 or 90 or 190 is completely and utterly irrelevant - it will be used on Donohue.
In fact our fourth pick is 50, so the 62 we get from the Dogs for Callan and the 90 we get from the Saints are both completely useless to us and therefore completely valueless. We have given all three players away, which in one way is fine as we would probably have delisted them all anyway.
In my book, the smart move would have been trying to use these three players to upgrade picks 34 and 44. Our last live pick was 44, so only picks better than that mean anything to us, so I sincerely hope we tried to upgrade it before settling for 62 and 90.
Re: Oh Charlie & King...
Mate, you don't need draft picks to upgrade rookies - you simply add them to the list.
Whichever way you look at it, picks 62 and 90 are dead set useless. In fact, the only thing we achieved was helping out the three players by getting them to clubs they presumably wanted to go to, and helping out those two clubs by getting them players they might otherwise have missed out on had they been left to the PSD. No benefit whatsoever for the club.
Mate, you don't need draft picks to upgrade rookies - you simply add them to the list.
Whichever way you look at it, picks 62 and 90 are dead set useless. In fact, the only thing we achieved was helping out the three players by getting them to clubs they presumably wanted to go to, and helping out those two clubs by getting them players they might otherwise have missed out on had they been left to the PSD. No benefit whatsoever for the club.
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Re: Oh Charlie & King...
Exactly, we panicked and gave up King and Gardiner for NOTHING! We could have at least got something for KING alone at other clubs
Exactly, we panicked and gave up King and Gardiner for NOTHING! We could have at least got something for KING alone at other clubs
Re: King and Gardiner gone
Nah, cos trade week's over.Are we going to try and trade anyone else now? Spencer, Tenace?
Are we even going to delist anyone?
Re: King and Gardiner gone
Absoulte Joke!!!! Terrible trading by Geelong! Gardiner alone for a late 5th round pick, but with all the talk of ruckmen in the last few weeks King could have fetched much more. A higher draft pick ie: 45-60 would have been much more appropriate!!!
Absoulte Joke!!!! Terrible trading by Geelong! Gardiner alone for a late 5th round pick, but with all the talk of ruckmen in the last few weeks King could have fetched much more. A higher draft pick ie: 45-60 would have been much more appropriate!!!
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Re: King and Gardiner gone
King didnt sound too happy on SEN about the club.
King didnt sound too happy on SEN about the club.
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Re: King and Gardiner gone
I'm at school so I prefer not to look at the time. I forgot about the 2pm deadline.
catters078
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a premiership ruckmen...
a promising young forward..with potential
pick 90 in return?? you kidding??
should have got a much lower pick for that...we know the saints were desperate for king...and gardiners should have boasted the deal...a pick like pick 35-40 would be worthy...not bloody 90
weak effort just for the point of getting a trade through
a promising young forward..with potential
pick 90 in return?? you kidding??
should have got a much lower pick for that...we know the saints were desperate for king...and gardiners should have boasted the deal...a pick like pick 35-40 would be worthy...not bloody 90
weak effort just for the point of getting a trade through
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Re: shit trade
Its called clearing cap space to sign players who have a legitimate long term future with the club. King and Gardiner would have been merely bit players in 2008.
Its called clearing cap space to sign players who have a legitimate long term future with the club. King and Gardiner would have been merely bit players in 2008.
Re: Oh Charlie & King...
We did. It's not like the fella's working out the deals aren't trying to get better ones. Jeez. To my thinking, the club seems to have done right by these guys by finding them new clubs to go to while (as many people have stated) making room in TPP. Now all the worry that is associated with the PSD passes King, Playfair and Gardiner completely.
We did. It's not like the fella's working out the deals aren't trying to get better ones. Jeez. To my thinking, the club seems to have done right by these guys by finding them new clubs to go to while (as many people have stated) making room in TPP. Now all the worry that is associated with the PSD passes King, Playfair and Gardiner completely.
Mooney_d'King
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Re: shit trade
King and Charlie both had clubs that were interested in them and a club they were interested in going to. Rather than be pricks and let them wait until the PSD, we were professional and helped our boys to the club they wanted.
Pick 90 is a token, we wont use it. But we helped 2 players who have given a lot to this club go to the club of their choice rather than leave it open for a few months and let them run the risk in the PSD.
Classy work by the club!!
They were both gone anyway.
King and Charlie both had clubs that were interested in them and a club they were interested in going to. Rather than be pricks and let them wait until the PSD, we were professional and helped our boys to the club they wanted.
Pick 90 is a token, we wont use it. But we helped 2 players who have given a lot to this club go to the club of their choice rather than leave it open for a few months and let them run the risk in the PSD.
Classy work by the club!!
sausageroll
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Re: shit trade
One word... Respect
Well done Geelong
One word... Respect
Well done Geelong
Ling Sting
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Re: Oh Charlie & King...
Maybe we could have gotten a bit more for King but he wouldn't really have huge stocks considering his age and him being prone to injury.
We really just needed to clear the salary cap a bit and look to the younger guys we already have.
I'm just happy that hank & charlie are finally on there way out.
Maybe we could have gotten a bit more for King but he wouldn't really have huge stocks considering his age and him being prone to injury.
We really just needed to clear the salary cap a bit and look to the younger guys we already have.
I'm just happy that hank & charlie are finally on there way out.
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Re: shit trade
WTF are you on about, things like this have to happen unless you want to go back to the days of 44yr droughts
WTF are you on about, things like this have to happen unless you want to go back to the days of 44yr droughts
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