KISS to play at the Grand Final

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Shane Heard said:
Which reminds me ..I read somewhere long time ago that Jim Henson’s muppet crew were mostly all potheads and stoners and Cookie Monster was one of their favourites to muck around with.

Cookie Monster is a completely unhinged, rage a-holic psychopath who says all kinds of crazy s**t. Gotta love him.
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I've always wondered if Graeme Edge (RIP) was the inspiration for Animal. :)

 

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Toump Ass said:
Cool tune.
I always assumed Animal was inspired by Keith Moon.
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You are probably right, there were some seriously great drummers back in those days, could have been any of them (or a combination).

I was just going by Edge's seriously frenetic drumming in what is an equally frenetic song. It reminds me of Animal. :)
 
I always underestimate how little the younger generation knows or cares about the past. Particularly music wise. (Generalising) I would have thought most people would recognise the main 3 songs KISS will sing but now a day you can be more selective with what you listen to. Even an algorithm will select your playlists. KISS would be on the radio and it was either listen or turn it off.
 
Tandy said:
I always underestimate how little the younger generation knows or cares about the past. Particularly music wise. (Generalising) I would have thought most people would recognise the main 3 songs KISS will sing but now a day you can be more selective with what you listen to. Even an algorithm will select your playlists. KISS would be on the radio and it was either listen or turn it off.
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Reasonable point but equally previous musical generations have never been more accessible.

Algorithms and iTunes/Spotify mean that if you can open one little rabbit hole for a young music consumer, they can get hooked instantly. My young bloke has just turned 14 and is addicted to Zeppelin at the moment and he’s already fully across Bowie, the Beatles, Stones, Sabbath, and he likes Metallica.
That started from him hearing Starman.
 
PhatBoy said:
Reasonable point but equally previous musical generations have never been more accessible.

Algorithms and iTunes/Spotify mean that if you can open one little rabbit hole for a young music consumer, they can get hooked instantly. My young bloke has just turned 14 and is addicted to Zeppelin at the moment and he’s already fully across Bowie, the Beatles, Stones, Sabbath, and he likes Metallica.
That started from him hearing Starman.
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I certainly know people considerably younger than me who are into music from when I grew up. The main reason being that they've been listening to their parents' records/CDs for years. :)
 
PhatBoy said:
Reasonable point but equally previous musical generations have never been more accessible.

Algorithms and iTunes/Spotify mean that if you can open one little rabbit hole for a young music consumer, they can get hooked instantly. My young bloke has just turned 14 and is addicted to Zeppelin at the moment and he’s already fully across Bowie, the Beatles, Stones, Sabbath, and he likes Metallica.
That started from him hearing Starman.
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got good taste !
 
sherb said:
I certainly know people considerably younger than me who are into music from when I grew up. The main reason being that they've been listening to their parents' records/CDs for years. :)
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I got my parent's record collection in their divorce and for a while owned more Cleo Laine LPs than one man should have.
 
sherb said:
I was there for both decades. And what a great time it was musically.

You had so many great bands/solo artists at their prime. Music wasn't created digitally. Touring was prolific, widespread and a lot of the shows were just extravagant. Musicians were true artists of their craft. In the 70s in particular, a lot of acts were delivering their fans a new album each year.

I think the best part for me is that many of the artists from those days are still touring and occasionally recording too. So they haven't sat on their laurels, and retired on their riches (not that all of them came out of the industry rich - I can think of one good Australian example), they have continued to deliver their music to their fans.

As for the bolded, I agree, but you can't make people listen and broaden their mind if they don't want to. There is much of today's music I don't enjoy but I don't go out of my way to bag it because if others are enjoying it, that's fantastic.
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But Sherb its our god given right as old farts to take the piss out of the younger generations music ! as our fathers did and their fathers did. :cool:
Plenty of very very average music around in my day too

But the reason I feel sorry for the younger generation is that there just doesn't seem to be the new music or new band around today that encompases what was happening at the time or symbolises a generation like the Beatles and Stones in the 60's,Punk in 70's, Nirvana in the 90's, Brit pop etc and also not forgetting the awesome Aussie pub rock scene in the 70's & 80's.

They have Taylor Swift and ole Ginger nuts...doesnt seem quite the same
 

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Tandy said:
I always underestimate how little the younger generation knows or cares about the past. Particularly music wise.
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Completely disagree. When you consider that the best of the Beatles, Led Zepp et al are over half a century old, it's pretty phenomenal how much young people know about them.
 
KiwiRoo said:
But the reason I feel sorry for the younger generation is that there just doesn't seem to be the new music or new band around today that encompases what was happening at the time or symbolises a generation like the Beatles and Stones in the 60's,Punk in 70's, Nirvana in the 90's, Brit pop etc and also not forgetting the awesome Aussie pub rock scene in the 70's & 80's.
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Probably the closest was Billie Eilish - with that disaffected/downbeat style that was pretty typical of her generation.

But overall I'd agree that nobody's quite yet come out and embodied that "voice of a generation" tag - perhaps in hip-hop, I wouldn't know. Young people now are increasingly angry at the way in which the world has (and hasn't) changed and I don't think there's anyone who's quite tapped into that yet.
 
sherb said:
You had so many great bands/solo artists at their prime. Music wasn't created digitally. Touring was prolific, widespread and a lot of the shows were just extravagant. Musicians were true artists of their craft. In the 70s in particular, a lot of acts were delivering their fans a new album each year.
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Touring wasn't as prolific as it is now - which is why bands could deliver roughly two albums every three years-ish.

Now bands have to tour their **** off just to make money... they have such little time to write.
 
iameviljez said:
Touring wasn't as prolific as it is now - which is why bands could deliver roughly two albums every three years-ish.
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Dunno about that. Led Zeppelin put in thousands of hours playing live, recorded constantly on the road using mobile studios, and completed albums in studios in a matter of weeks. They toured heaps.

I think the biggest reason that bands don't deliver albums often is because the labels want to make as much money of each album as possible. I know of plenty of people in successful bands who regularly have music waiting for over a year for the audience to hear because they have to wait for a break in a label's release schedule, and because they have to pay back the record labels for the investment in their current album (ie: by touring).

Best example of this is Prince, whose dispute with Warner Bros leading to him changing his name was because the label didn't want him to release so prolifically.
 
Goroyals22 said:
Yes… they survived the 80s and half of the 90s without it


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The makeup was one of the best marketing ploys ever in Music..

No way they would be as well known without it. It made their brand. Then a huge story when they decided to take it off.

Had such a big following by this stage that they could have played in Tutu's and still sold out stadiums
 
KiwiRoo said:
The makeup was one of the best marketing ploys ever in Music..

No way they would be as well known without it. It made their brand. Then a huge story when they decided to take it off.

Had such a big following by this stage that they could have played in Tutu's and still sold out stadiums
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There’s no way to tell either way… their 80s music is some of their best stuff and sadly ignored by most..
 

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