Draft Watcher Knightmare's 2019 Draft Almanac

[LukeParkerno1]

So we take a grand total of ZERO mids when our midfield is where we need to fix?

Makes no sense

 

[Knightmare]

So we take a grand total of ZERO mids when our midfield is where we need to fix?

Makes no sense

Sydney take zero mids?

Chirgwin is a big bodied inside mid. That's all he can do. Ralphsmith can play through the mids and may rotate fwd/mid. Young even can play through the midfield. Elijah Taylor is the only of those who doesn't have midfield capabilities.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Sydney take zero mids?

Chirgwin is a big bodied inside mid. That's all he can do. Ralphsmith can play through the mids and may rotate fwd/mid. Young even can play through the midfield. Elijah Taylor is the only of those who doesn't have midfield capabilities.

All these “bit” mids, honestly I’d be blowing deluxe if that’s the draft haul we take. If that’s the second round, rather just take Stephens at 6. One true mid out of the selections doesn’t make sense...and why have you got another FWD/mid when we already have a lot of them- that is one position we don’t need really.

 

[Knightmare]

All these “bit” mids, honestly I’d be blowing deluxe if that’s the draft haul we take. If that’s the second round, rather just take Stephens at 6. One true mid out of the selections doesn’t make sense...and why have you got another FWD/mid when we already have a lot of them- that is one position we don’t need really.

I don't view positional flexibility negatively.

Add more decent forwards and Heeney can play more through the midfield, Papley can get a few more midfield minutes and it might mean some chances for Ronke. Add another good defender or two and that may release Mills for opportunity through there.

My view is Sydney have midfielders, but they're not all playing through there, or as much as they should be.

 

[theGav56]

If anyone but Freo take Robertson in the first 15 picks, expect to see him at West Coast within 4 years. It's nothing personal, just a fait accompli

Pretty sure Coniglio was guaranteed to be playing for them too.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't view positional flexibility negatively.

Add more decent forwards and Heeney can play more through the midfield, Papley can get a few more midfield minutes and it might mean some chances for Ronke. Add another good defender or two and that may release Mills for opportunity through there.

My view is Sydney have midfielders, but they're not all playing through there, or as much as they should be.

You rate our mids right now way too much. Papley especially shouldn’t be playing mid- you are robbing Peter to pay Paul so to speak. He’s an elite HF, rather leave him there.

Our midfield needs help this draft then add Gulden next year that’s a start. Rowbottom last year helped massively. That’s the type we need genuine mids. It’s mainly the first pick in the second round I personally would have issues with- the other two, they are fine and around the mark. I Expect us to take the player you have us taking at 6 if he’s there unfortunately even though I don’t want him personally.

 

[Mofra]

Hey KM,

Interested in your reasoning of Weightman being rated higher than Bergman. We seem heavily linked to Bergman and with McAsey set to go earlier than our pick I expect that's who we end up with.
Cheers

 

[HARKER]

I don't view positional flexibility negatively.

Add more decent forwards and Heeney can play more through the midfield, Papley can get a few more midfield minutes and it might mean some chances for Ronke. Add another good defender or two and that may release Mills for opportunity through there.

My view is Sydney have midfielders, but they're not all playing through there, or as much as they should be.

It sounds great but doesn't show up anywhere near as much as one may like it to.

Would much sooner have the best players playing in their best positions than to add value to 'versatile' types that aren't asked to use that versatility much at all. Heeney and Mills aren't kids any more and the less they play in the midfield, the less effect they may have when asked to do so.

I get that you can't have all your mids playing midfield at the same time, but it does seem a little odd why Mills and Heeney haven't been used as midfielders much at all. Maybe they're now deemed to not be good enough. That would be a waste.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

It sounds great but doesn't show up anywhere near as much as one may like it to.

Would much sooner have the best players playing in their best positions than to add value to 'versatile' types that aren't asked to use that versatility much at all. Heeney and Mills aren't kids any more and the less they play in the midfield, the less effect they may have when asked to do so.

I get that you can't have all your mids playing midfield at the same time, but it does seem a little odd why Mills and Heeney haven't been used as midfielders much at all. Maybe they're now deemed to not be good enough. That would be a waste.

The fact that our midfield was good until 2 years ago probably has stopped those two playing large mid minutes. Heeney is also so valuable up forward as he's a nightmare matchup. Issac will never go full mid but I am hoping for a 70/30 split this year. Mills, I have no idea, been saying for 2 years he should be, but whether that's coaching or what not I'm not sure.

Just feel this draft we need to get some quality mids, happy to go best available at 6 though, I expect if Jackson is there at 6, we'll take him. Suits a need and is almost best available anyway. The rest should be mids with a point of difference.

 

[briztoon]

3 round phantom draft up now: https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/28095715/updated-afl-phantom-draft-first-three-rounds

Liked 4 of your 5 picks for Brisbane, even though we’re only taking 4 picks to the draft.

You could probably swap the Rantall and Rivers selections around, as that probably reflects better where the Lions and most clubs rate each player.

The only pick I wasn’t keen on, was the Jack Mahony selection. Probably feel of the players left on board, Mitch O’Neill suits our needs better.


Having said that, I would be offering a small ransom to Port to move up to pick 12 to select Brodie Kemp. I would seriously offer picks 16 and 21 for picks 12 and 29 as a starting point. I would reluctantly add 34 in as well if Port could find us another selection in the 50’s.

We’re going to have to trade out two picks before the draft, just to find value in our current excess draft picks.

 

[Knightmare]

You rate our mids right now way too much. Papley especially shouldn’t be playing mid- you are robbing Peter to pay Paul so to speak. He’s an elite HF, rather leave him there.

Our midfield needs help this draft then add Gulden next year that’s a start. Rowbottom last year helped massively. That’s the type we need genuine mids. It’s mainly the first pick in the second round I personally would have issues with- the other two, they are fine and around the mark. I Expect us to take the player you have us taking at 6 if he’s there unfortunately even though I don’t want him personally.

Gulden and Campbell both will be big helps for Sydney next year.

We're in agreement with Papley forward is where he is best. He may be the most underrated forward in the competition and is in that best few conversation by position. But when he has pushed through the midfield for minor minutes he has proven very effective for a few years now.

Do you advocate more midfield minutes to Heeney and Mills? My view with Mills is that his development is being stunted by keeping him in defence, while Heeney who is terrific as a forward should more-so be resting forward and playing a lot more through the midfield. Ronke I really like the contested ball winning capabilities of from his junior days and would also like to see play through the midfield with forward to be more a secondary spot.

Hey KM,

Interested in your reasoning of Weightman being rated higher than Bergman. We seem heavily linked to Bergman and with McAsey set to go earlier than our pick I expect that's who we end up with.
Cheers

I've heard both linked to the Dogs. My thinking is Bergman is more a backup plan if Weightman isn't there, but it could well be the other way around. Both fill needs but I would have thought a small forward would have been higher priority than a tall flanker.

It sounds great but doesn't show up anywhere near as much as one may like it to.

Would much sooner have the best players playing in their best positions than to add value to 'versatile' types that aren't asked to use that versatility much at all. Heeney and Mills aren't kids any more and the less they play in the midfield, the less effect they may have when asked to do so.

I get that you can't have all your mids playing midfield at the same time, but it does seem a little odd why Mills and Heeney haven't been used as midfielders much at all. Maybe they're now deemed to not be good enough. That would be a waste.

I share your view about Heeney and Mills.

Heeney eventually I want to see evolve into a mid who only rests forward while Mills should be a mid perminantly and only seems to have remained in defense out of a dissatisfaction in Sydney's defenders and early days due to a loaded midfield.

 

[bellpark]

Your picks for the Cats meet needs, I get that, but Bergman feels like an athlete type Pick(think Jackson Thurlow) and Sharp only gets 20-odd percent of his positions contested so I really think Cats have had more success picking natural footballers lately after our bust drafts around 2014 left a hole in the list. This is our chance so I see what you have done, but I really hope we go with more natural footballers such as Gould and C.Stephens.

 

[Knightmare]

Liked 4 of your 5 picks for Brisbane, even though we’re only taking 4 picks to the draft.

You could probably swap the Rantall and Rivers selections around, as that probably reflects better where the Lions and most clubs rate each player.

The only pick I wasn’t keen on, was the Jack Mahony selection. Probably feel of the players left on board, Mitch O’Neill suits our needs better.


Having said that, I would be offering a small ransom to Port to move up to pick 12 to select Brodie Kemp. I would seriously offer picks 16 and 21 for picks 12 and 29 as a starting point. I would reluctantly add 34 in as well if Port could find us another selection in the 50’s.

We’re going to have to trade out two picks before the draft, just to find value in our current excess draft picks.

In this three round draft I didn't take into account how many selections each club will take as the reality will be that those picks inside the first three rounds if they will go unused would be traded, and I wanted to get a good number of names out there more than anything.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of love for Mahony on Bigfooty, and I find it surprising as Champion Data consider Mahony a top-15 prospect this year and there are several recruiters I have spoken to who consider him on quality a first rounder. He's a guy who has the performances on the board, can step in from day one and can play forward or midfield with his ball winning capabilities good.

Brodie Kemp is one where if he works out, a trade such as the one you're proposing could work out in a big way.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Gulden and Campbell both will be big helps for Sydney next year.

We're in agreement with Papley forward is where he is best. He may be the most underrated forward in the competition and is in that best few conversation by position. But when he has pushed through the midfield for minor minutes he has proven very effective for a few years now.

Do you advocate more midfield minutes to Heeney and Mills? My view with Mills is that his development is being stunted by keeping him in defence, while Heeney who is terrific as a forward should more-so be resting forward and playing a lot more through the midfield. Ronke I really like the contested ball winning capabilities of from his junior days and would also like to see play through the midfield with forward to be more a secondary spot.

The academy boys will help, but we need more than them, need to completely change our midfield. Neither Parker or Kennedy are spring chickens both are closer to retirement than not.

Papley stays forward, but that's why we don't need a FWD in this draft, that is the one position we have, have Paps, Hayward, and a few others through there.

I'd advocate a 70/30 split for Heeney, I do like him forward a bit adds a good dynamic down there. Mills is the unknown, I've been adamant that coaching is an issue there, he should be playing midfield, but he's not. That in turn is an issue if we then take non pure mids this draft. A classy HB might allow us to shift Mills though

 

[Knightmare]

Your picks for the Cats meet needs, I get that, but Bergman feels like an athlete type Pick(think Jackson Thurlow) and Sharp only gets 20-odd percent of his positions contested so I really think Cats have had more success picking natural footballers lately after our bust drafts around 2014 left a hole in the list. This is our chance so I see what you have done, but I really hope we go with more natural footballers such as Gould and C.Stephens.

Geelong like their local talents so Stephens if there will be considered and would make sense to help replenish the club's midfield. Gould I like and again another good list fit. I wouldn't discount either. Stephens with that second and Gould with that third choice wouldn't be a bad way for Geelong to go.

 

[x_les_x]

What do you think were going to do with the extra picks knighter?

 

[robbo1981]

I like impey and he did have his best year to date but AA chatter? He was absolutely no chance of AA before he went down. Would love to see your source for that one....

Bruce was trying his best to get him a spot

 

[Knightmare]

What do you think were going to do with the extra picks knighter?

One move has already been made with Port Adelaide moving up to Brisbane's pick 16 and collecting yet more picks. With the focus on accumulating picks in this draft I'm seeing Port Adelaide looking at potential exchanges with GWS to move up to pick 6 and get them the points for Green to find a way to also improve their draft position.

Port may also be entertaining a trade with Fremantle and if a bid on Henry comes before their second selection, Fremantle may look to flip that pick for a combination of Port's picks.

In any case, those clubs with academy or father/son prospects will all be giving Port a call, with Richmond probably that second club that may be able to get in on some of the action.

 

[Macros]

I understand that Dylan Williams would be best available in that scenario, but he doesn't suit our list needs at all imo. In the likes of Zurhaar, Garner, Thomas, Curtis Taylor, Lachie Hosie, etc we've got a glut of that type of player.

I would have thought that the likes of O'Neill would suit our needs better, and he has the Tassie connection as well. Is it a case that Williams would just be too good to pass up at that stage, do you think?

 

[blueiris]

What would be Brisbane's reasoning behind They're trade with Port Knights what is next years first round like heard it's very Compromised strange trade for mine

 

[andleanback]

What would be Brisbane's reasoning behind They're trade with Port Knights what is next years first round like heard it's very Compromised strange trade for mine

If port miss finals next year you essentially get a top 10 pick and 29 for 16 and steak knives, absolutely ripping deal. First 10-15 players won’t be that compromised next year, absolute media beat up. Will be plenty of top end talent on the open market

 

[GUMBLETRON]

What would be Brisbane's reasoning behind They're trade with Port Knights what is next years first round like heard it's very Compromised strange trade for mine

Brisbane get paid to push 16 back a year with 29 for a grab bag of late picks they couldn't use anyway. Make perfect sense.

 

[Knightmare]

I understand that Dylan Williams would be best available in that scenario, but he doesn't suit our list needs at all imo. In the likes of Zurhaar, Garner, Thomas, Curtis Taylor, Lachie Hosie, etc we've got a glut of that type of player.

I would have thought that the likes of O'Neill would suit our needs better, and he has the Tassie connection as well. Is it a case that Williams would just be too good to pass up at that stage, do you think?

Williams is difficult to pass on and arguably is an upgrade on those guys, minus perhaps Thomas.

In saying that with the Port Adelaide trade with Brisbane things might change with Port Adelaide one of a number of clubs believed to have Williams on their shortlist.

O'Neill I expect to receive consideration for that pick. Brisbane may take O'Neill a couple of choices later if North don't with one of those picks in the 20s.

 

[Knightmare]

What would be Brisbane's reasoning behind They're trade with Port Knights what is next years first round like heard it's very Compromised strange trade for mine

I like the trade for both sides.

Pick 16 is outside the sweet spot this year in the first round with those better players to go inside the first 12, or maybe 13/14 in the minds of some clubs. I don't see it as being much different to 29.

Port Adelaide's 2020 first I'd expect will come before pick 16, so it overall improved Brisbane's draft hand inside the first two rounds between this year and next year.

Brisbane is the more obvious/straightforward winning side.

Port Adelaide on the other hand are all about loading up this year with a clear and obvious view towards moving up in the draft and packaging combinations of picks with one if not more clubs with academy or father-son picks. GWS will be their top target, but they likely will divise a plan with Fremantle for if Henry gets bid on before pick 10, and probably will also have had conversations with Hawthorn to work out a way to help them out also with Maginness. Their success out of the deal will come if they can move up to pick 6, or pick 6 and 10, or find some productive way to at least move those picks up or at worst into next years draft for something worthwhile.

 

[THE_GUN]

One move has already been made with Port Adelaide moving up to Brisbane's pick 16 and collecting yet more picks. With the focus on accumulating picks in this draft I'm seeing Port Adelaide looking at potential exchanges with GWS to move up to pick 6 and get them the points for Green to find a way to also improve their draft position.

Port may also be entertaining a trade with Fremantle and if a bid on Henry comes before their second selection, Fremantle may look to flip that pick for a combination of Port's picks.

In any case, those clubs with academy or father/son prospects will all be giving Port a call, with Richmond probably that second club that may be able to get in on some of the action.

Not too sure how Port can facilitate a trade with teams like GWS / Fremantle if bids come early for these players as the incoming picks from Port would just get swallowed up as points ?