One player has alot more risk involved with his health. That puts them equal whether you can admit it or not
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One player has alot more risk involved with his health. That puts them equal whether you can admit it or not
I assume he was sub in some of his AFL games. All of them?
Good stats against GWS but if thats a fair indicator I'm tipping Beau Wilkes for the Coleman.
And no one believes that. It will have a affect, just not one big enough to stop him from playing. Its much more of a worry then a sore shoulder, hence the massive medical Eagles put him through before they agreed to consider him
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Koby averaged 37% game time this year averaging 8.5 possessions.
Cripps averaged 66% game time and 9.8 disposals
So they only put other prospective players through a cursory medical
.Cripps has his blood sugar regularly checked and adjusted during games and sessions of heavy training. So I guess there is a cost to that as far as resources go. Thats the guts of it as far as has ever been mentioned though.
Meanwhile a player with OP or bad knee's or your "sore shoulder" ( ask Porplezia how that one goes ), can limit players careers severely. Half of this thread consists of "ohhh but Stevens had OP, Stevens was injured in that game blah blah.
Which game was Cripps "affected" by Diabetes?
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The reality with Diabetes is we will never know what his athletic potential would have been without it. I would assume that every game he plays would be affected by Diabetes - it has to have some impact.
The Flea had it his entire career and was bloody successful - would he have been better without it? My guess is he would have been.
Josh Toy's career will be hampered by his heart condition - that doesn't mean he can't forge a successful career - it just means that he won't be able to reach his absolute peak.
So like a knee reco or a bung shoulder, a medical condition found post his junior form (which is still a big factor in his potential) is going to have an impact on his trade value.
Do you know much about Diabetes? It hardly affects your playing ability. If it did, he wouldn't have played any where near as many games as he had in his first 2 years, and his fitness and hard work on the track is the one thing you cannot question about Cripps. The only thing about it is that he has to learn to manage a new disease, which can be a lot for someone, especially a young kid.
The fact is Stevens will find it very difficult to break in the St Kilda midfield. We already have 3 similar young inside mids who I would probably rate above him who are also struggling to break into the team. Ross (last years first rounder), Curren (won Sandringham's BnF) and Ledger.
Cripps played 4 games (despite him being diagnosed with Diabetes) in his first year, before injuring himself for the rest of the season. Then in his 2nd year he played 12 games, and finished the year strongly. Improvement.
Stevens played 5 in his 1st year, 2 in his 2nd and 4 in his 3rd (many as a sub). He has shown little improvement in 3 years and yes he has had injuries, but so has Cripps. Yes, he is in a stronger side, but Cripps has had to battle with Hayes, Montagna, Dal Santo, Goddard, Steven, Armitage etc. for a spot in the middle and Milne, Schnieder and Saad for a small forward spot, so he hasn't had it easy either.
Would offer #47 for him, think he has the potential to be a pretty good player, not elite because as mentioned he is a bit of a 'vanilla' player but just look at Sydneys midfield this year, besides Jetta there is a fair few midfielder who could fall under the category of a 'vanilla' midfielder, so it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Well, it is tomorrow and he has announced anything!
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Isn't Cripps the kid with bad asthma?
And how hasn't Stevens been delisted? He is a poor mans Simon Godfrey
And how hasn't Stevens been delisted? He is a poor mans Simon Godfrey
He's a poor man's Josh P Kennedy. He needs time to develop though, better off at a rebuilding club than one pushing for a premiership.
And yet we still managed to have the highest disposal efficiency % of any club for the most (if not all, no idea how it finished up) of the season.
Horrible call on Masten btw, he's probably in the top 5 kicks on our list.
A.Selwood is a defender by the way, and Naitanui is a ruckman. Priddis is the one I'll grant you, and most midfields have one spud kick.
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Better targets than most
DE is overrated, Jason Blake is always up amongst our best and he's easily (Clint Jones aside) the worst kick in the team.
Its overrated when you concentrate on players, not over a entire team
Eagles worst kicks are geniunely in the defense/forward line anyway. (Glass,McKenzie,Selwood,Lynch,McGinnity) They would be dragging down our midfield not improving there stats
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averaged 19 possessions a game in the WAFL finals?
But still, you chose 3 bad examples out of four. Kerr, Shuey, Scott Selwood, Priddis, Masten, Gaff, Rosa, Embley and Wellingham is our main midfield rotation, and all barring Priddis and perhaps Wellingham have good to elite footskills. Naitanui's role in the midfield is practically as a clearance bull, his poor footskills rarely hurt us aside from in front of goal. Cox also has good skills for a big man.
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Did the Eagles offer Koby anything after his contract expired ?
They should offer Koby a deal that is front ended with the promise of 3 first up games so he can cement his spot in the side and if he fluffs it ( like has before in the 2012 NAB Cup Final ) then he should consider himself a depth player only and not first 22.
They should offer Koby a deal that is front ended with the promise of 3 first up games so he can cement his spot in the side and if he fluffs it ( like has before in the 2012 NAB Cup Final ) then he should consider himself a depth player only and not first 22.
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Kicking efficiency is our strength.
Equal most efficient team by foot along with Hawthorn and when CD did an assessment based on efficiency and general difficulty of kicks we had the largest number of players in the top bracket. We were also the best team at scoring from stoppages for most of the year, likewise the most efficient at converting clearances into scoring opportunities. Our gameplan is low possession, low clearance numbers, but high efficiency. Not to mention our best targets were not present for most of the season.
WC 2012 =/= WC 2008. Your assessment of the club is inaccurate.
What WC need is a dynamic or big bodied clearance player.
Coming off a hip complaint, I believe.
thats why he wants to join the eagles
He plays for West Coast.
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The decision...
to be followed by another decision, where his nominated club offers us a pick we won't use as their final offer.
to be followed by another decision, where his nominated club offers us a pick we won't use as their final offer.
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